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[uhauldriver]

i dont quite know how to respond, now im thinkin it might be time for tomlins departure. this isnt the "necessary changes" he spoke of yesterday or the "major changes" he spoke of a month ago. this isnt anywhere close to the "unleashing hell" i expected. now i know how it feels to be a browns fan.

[man of steel]

so u r saying that missing the playoffs was the OC's fault. Take off yer black and gold galsses and look at the FACT that the O gave the Steelers the lead in the 4th Qtr and the D lost it, IN 6 FREAKIN GAMES!

Last year was our year, this one wasn't. And players letting down had something do with it, no?

[uhauldriver]

so u r saying that missing the playoffs was the OC's fault. Take off yer black and gold galsses and look at the FACT that the O gave the Steelers the lead in the 4th Qtr and the D lost it, IN 6 FREAKIN GAMES!

Last year was our year, this one wasn't. And players letting down had something do with it, no?

sure players had alot to do with it, like i dont know arians letting veron haynes go (who was an aoutomatic 1st down on 3rd downs) or the whole 3rd and 1 empty set formations or the 4th and 1 mewelde moore sweep calls, or the "put a 4th string tight end in the backfield" when evreyone else in the nfl uses a fullback. you gotta admit the only well called offensive game in three years was this years game against san diego. its not his system, its his formations and play calling. and yeah we have no depth, an aging defense and an under acheiving o line, but lets not forget the special teams who gave up a touchdown every 5 quarters! im with you (sorta) the blame should be spread around, but the horrid play calling on offense stands out.

[troypo43]

WHY?  WHY?  WHY?!?!?!?  I can't deal with this loser another day!  C'mon Uncle Mike, kick this dweeb to the curb.  Go get Charlie Weis!

[man of steel]

Agree with some of it, but its always brilliant when it works/is propoerly executed. Also, Ben changes about half the plays at the LOS, don't forget.

so u r saying that missing the playoffs was the OC's fault. Take off yer black and gold galsses and look at the FACT that the O gave the Steelers the lead in the 4th Qtr and the D lost it, IN 6 FREAKIN GAMES!

Last year was our year, this one wasn't. And players letting down had something do with it, no?

sure players had alot to do with it, like i dont know arians letting veron haynes go (who was an aoutomatic 1st down on 3rd downs) or the whole 3rd and 1 empty set formations or the 4th and 1 mewelde moore sweep calls, or the "put a 4th string tight end in the backfield" when evreyone else in the nfl uses a fullback. you gotta admit the only well called offensive game in three years was this years game against san diego. its not his system, its his formations and play calling. and yeah we have no depth, an aging defense and an under acheiving o line, but lets not forget the special teams who gave up a touchdown every 5 quarters! im with you (sorta) the blame should be spread around, but the horrid play calling on offense stands out.

[LameDuck]

It may be genius when it works.... But if the defense can already tell what your going to do half of the time, that isn't seting up for success. 

Besides how often do Arians plays really work anyway? I mean when we get in the redzone it is automatic empty set time. It pushed us out of FG range more often then they scored out of it.

[steelerfan55]

Agree with some of it, but its always brilliant when it works/is propoerly executed. Also, Ben changes about half the plays at the LOS, don't forget.

And who's fault is it that Ben gets to change plays whenever he feels like it?  It wasn't like this under Whisenhunt.  He sent in the play, Ben ran the play.  If Ben audibled, he had better have a damn good reason, or it was his ass.  Arians sends in a play and says, "Here is what I would like to run, but if you don't want to, you change it honey."  Ben is ONE player.  His happiness should count for as much as the practice squad punter.  He's paid to play, not coach.  Arians needs to be his boss, not his friend.

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