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« Reply #10 on: Apr 26, 2007 at 12:57 »

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I like this draft, it may be a little high for Poz, but look who is already gone.  poz may end up being better than some of us think.  I will never let the dude who called that guy a moron live it down if we take him.  Be nice.
Try, I wont let any of you PSU homers let it down, Poz is a joke, he is small, slow and got by in the college game off knowing the game better against guys still on his Level. Lets face it, the Big 10 isnt loaded with NFL quailty RB's and TE's or OLmen... Poz isnt nothing more than a good College player...
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« Reply #11 on: Apr 27, 2007 at 16:46 »

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« Reply #12 on: Apr 27, 2007 at 19:36 »

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I like this draft, it may be a little high for Poz, but look who is already gone.  poz may end up being better than some of us think.  I will never let the dude who called that guy a moron live it down if we take him.  Be nice.

Try, I wont let any of you PSU homers let it down, Poz is a joke, he is small, slow and got by in the college game off knowing the game better against guys still on his Level. Lets face it, the Big 10 isnt loaded with NFL quailty RB's and TE's or OLmen... Poz isnt nothing more than a good College player...

Moron?

http://www.timesonline.com/site/news.cfm?n...id=478568&rfi=6

Well tell me who Mike Bires is?  If he is such a great judge of talent, why is he writting for the times and not a NFL scout or hell not even working for the post gazette....

I could write a story about how great Rian Wallace is, and how he is the next Ray Lewis and how his upside is endless.. Does that give it merrit?  nope... Just because some jack ass writting for a small time paper thinks POZ could be the next Jack Hamm dont mean it will happen.

I dont know where you been the last 5 years.. but recently in the NFL, if you are a LB and your undersized, you better damn well be fast as hell to make up for that...  but guess what... Paul isnt.. actually... there are many of DE's who are faster than he is, who is also a lot bigger and stronger...

Please tell me... What is so special about PP?  What do you see in him to make you believe he is WORTHY of being the 15 pick in the draft... There are atleast 5 LBs in this draft who are more athletic and BIGGER and FASTER and ready for the NFL in this draft.

Im willing to bet my life savings, if Paul played his college ball at a place like Northwestern or Purdue, you would be agreeing with me.  Give it up.. he might be the home town boy... but that dosent always mean he is the best option for the team.
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« Reply #13 on: Apr 27, 2007 at 20:38 »

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« Reply #14 on: Apr 27, 2007 at 23:24 »

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I like this draft, it may be a little high for Poz, but look who is already gone.  poz may end up being better than some of us think.  I will never let the dude who called that guy a moron live it down if we take him.  Be nice.

Try, I wont let any of you PSU homers let it down, Poz is a joke, he is small, slow and got by in the college game off knowing the game better against guys still on his Level. Lets face it, the Big 10 isnt loaded with NFL quailty RB's and TE's or OLmen... Poz isnt nothing more than a good College player...

Moron?

http://www.timesonline.com/site/news.cfm?n...id=478568&rfi=6

Well tell me who Mike Bires is?  If he is such a great judge of talent, why is he writting for the times and not a NFL scout or hell not even working for the post gazette....

I could write a story about how great Rian Wallace is, and how he is the next Ray Lewis and how his upside is endless.. Does that give it merrit?  nope... Just because some jack ass writting for a small time paper thinks POZ could be the next Jack Hamm dont mean it will happen.

I dont know where you been the last 5 years.. but recently in the NFL, if you are a LB and your undersized, you better damn well be fast as hell to make up for that...  but guess what... Paul isnt.. actually... there are many of DE's who are faster than he is, who is also a lot bigger and stronger...

Please tell me... What is so special about PP?  What do you see in him to make you believe he is WORTHY of being the 15 pick in the draft... There are atleast 5 LBs in this draft who are more athletic and BIGGER and FASTER and ready for the NFL in this draft.

Im willing to bet my life savings, if Paul played his college ball at a place like Northwestern or Purdue, you would be agreeing with me.  Give it up.. he might be the home town boy... but that dosent always mean he is the best option for the team.

Well since I am a moron, what the fuck do you care what I have to say?  

Here is my order of players I would like us to get in round one, who could still be on the board when we pick:  Patrick Willis, Levi Brown, Amobi Okoye, Derrelle Revis, Alan Branch Adam Carriker and Poz.  Since in my mock all of the others are gone I went With Poz.  Some may think that 15 is to high for him, but if it's the guy you want you take him.

Poz is a tough player with great instincts.  He played well at both outside and middle LB, but I think he will be best at inside. He is like a coach on the field with his understanding of the game.  

I am not sure what other LB's you are talking about, but here are some stats:
Poz 4.70 40, Ht 6-2 Wt 238
Timmons 4.66 40 Ht 6-1 wt 234
Beason 4.72 40 Ht 6-0 Wt 237
Spencer 4.70 40 Ht 6-3 Wt 261 tweener

I also Like Stewart Bradley in the 3-4 Rnd.

Poz isnt 220lbs soaking wet in pads.....
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« Reply #15 on: Apr 28, 2007 at 00:46 »

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Poz isnt 220lbs soaking wet in pads.....

Thanks VT.  I always knew they just made those combine measurements up.  Thanks for clarifying.  Also, thanks for weighing him for us.

If you don't think Poz is a good fit for us at 1.15, sure I agree.  And I think he'll be a good player.

But your reasoning is completely assinine.  As a sidenote, I think its funny you called "pittman" a PSU homer.  Good one.

Back to the point, Poz is bigger than Timmons and Beason.  His Proday 40 time was 4.58, I believe, faster than Beason and Timmons.

And even if one of them ran .01 faster than him, which they didn't, or weighed 5 pounds more than him, which they don't, or were an inch or 2 taller, which they aren't, your completely out of your mind if you think that will make them a better football player.

Maybe you should check your facts next time before you go call someone a moron.

 
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« Reply #16 on: Apr 28, 2007 at 01:04 »

Posluszny aint shit.
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« Reply #17 on: Apr 28, 2007 at 01:07 »

And please don't call PSU fans "homers". I root for the mutherfuckin five-time Super Bowl Champeen team that beats people up old-school style. And yes I have Steelers ties and live in the city.

PSU is out in hickville central. They have no affiliation with the Steez and anyone who tries to believe so is a fucking dreamer. Center Co is not the 'Burgh. Get the f serious.

Fuck Penn State.
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« Reply #18 on: Apr 28, 2007 at 04:27 »

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And please don't call PSU fans "homers". I root for the mutherfuckin five-time Super Bowl Champeen team that beats people up old-school style. And yes I have Steelers ties and live in the city.

PSU is out in hickville central. They have no affiliation with the Steez and anyone who tries to believe so is a fucking dreamer. Center Co is not the 'Burgh. Get the f serious.

Fuck Penn State.
I didnt mean Steeler fans are PSU homers... just PSU fans who are steelers ALWAYS want to make homer pics...

Like this year with Poz and Hunt.. Like Last year Robinson and so on and so on... PSU fans who are steelers, dont want to listen to any logic, that a PSU might not be the best fit for the Steelers...

from what I seen . if you are arent a PSU fan, than you dont want nothing to do with PP... AND if you are a PSU fan and you want him.. its 100% obvious that you are a homer if you think he is the best option for this team at 1.15....

IMHO the best fit for us right now Is Timmons.. and I think 15 is a bit early for Timmons.. And I think Timmons will be 2 times the player of Poz when its all said and done.
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« Reply #19 on: Apr 28, 2007 at 04:40 »

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Poz isnt 220lbs soaking wet in pads.....

Thanks VT.  I always knew they just made those combine measurements up.  Thanks for clarifying.  Also, thanks for weighing him for us.

If you don't think Poz is a good fit for us at 1.15, sure I agree.  And I think he'll be a good player.

But your reasoning is completely assinine, and you're out of line calling pittman a moron.  As a sidenote, I think its funny you called "pittman" a PSU homer.  Good one.

Back to the point, Poz is bigger than Timmons and Beason.  His Proday 40 time was 4.58, I believe, faster than Beason and Timmons.

And even if one of them ran .01 faster than him, which they didn't, or weighed 5 pounds more than him, which they don't, or were an inch or 2 taller, which they aren't, your completely out of your mind if you think that will make them a better football player.
1. PP was 220lbs at PSU.... if he is now 235-240 its even more obvious why you dont take the guy.. You never seen him play at the weight, and a lot of guys dont play liek they used to when they need to bulk up.

2. he ran a 4.7 when it mattered... 4.5 at his PSU Pro day big whoop.... Plaxico Burress was said to ran a 4.28 at MSU's pro day...  And we all know that didnt happen.

3. everyone keeps calling me out, saying im the one who is crazy.. but yet no one has backed up anything on why he is worth 1.15? What is so special about him? Dont give me this "he is smart" bullshit, or he has a good motor, because being smart dont get you drafted in round 1. Guys like Buster Davis,  Rufus Alexander, David Harris, H.B. Blades.. and a lot more, are smart, hard working, never give up guys... but does that make them first rounders?  No.


Poz isnt bad at any one area... but he isnt very good at any 1 area.. and at 1.15 I dont want a guy who is around AVG at everything.. in the first round you get somebody special... someone who can change the game... Poz might not do anything to lose you games, but 9 times out of 10 he isnt going to make a play to win you the game either....

If we was to get him in round 2.. I wouldnt mind... But at 1.15.. its just insane to think we should take him.... that or biased....
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