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« on: Aug 24, 2007 at 09:19 »

Drummond Looking For New Team
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Detroit Free Press: "The timing of Drummond's release gives him a better chance to land another job. Drummond said he expected to sign elsewhere soon and he had heard Pittsburgh, Kansas City, Tampa Bay and Denver were interested."
 
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« Reply #1 on: Aug 24, 2007 at 09:29 »

Both.  We need help in the return game, but Reid has much more potential at WR.  Cut Ced, sing Drummond.
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« Reply #2 on: Aug 24, 2007 at 09:45 »

tight ass roonies would never sing him
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« Reply #3 on: Aug 24, 2007 at 14:11 »

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I could have sworn that the tight-assed Rooneys were pretty much capped out.  But that doesn't make sense, because if the Steelers were near the salary cap then how could they be cheap?
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« Reply #4 on: Aug 24, 2007 at 16:06 »

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I could have sworn that the tight-assed Rooneys were pretty much capped out.  But that doesn't make sense, because if the Steelers were near the salary cap then how could they be cheap?
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« Reply #5 on: Aug 24, 2007 at 17:10 »

Ya know, I was about to laugh and say "Why the hell every time a player is released, posters want the Steelers to sign them (ala Simeon Rice)..."  

But actually, the idea of signing Drummond to a one or two year deal actually makes a little sense.  I could not stand to see one more punt muff this year.

Unless the idea would to be eliminate say Chidi since Gay has had a monster preseason, I think the signing would mean Walter Young doesn't make the team.
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« Reply #6 on: Aug 25, 2007 at 02:26 »

WHACHOO TALKIN BOUT WILLIS REID!!!???  MisseER DRUMMIN RULZ!!!11
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« Reply #7 on: Aug 26, 2007 at 19:00 »

Drummond singed with the Chefs today.
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« Reply #8 on: Aug 26, 2007 at 20:50 »

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« Reply #9 on: Aug 27, 2007 at 06:45 »

Sure would be nice if Willie could....you know....Catch the damn ball!!!!! What is up with our punt returning lately (and by lately I mean the past year)?
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« Reply #10 on: Aug 27, 2007 at 07:50 »

Yeah, I've been defending Reid to this point, but he needs to get his shit together. Dude has a ton of potential, but he really needs to hold onto the damn ball.
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« Reply #11 on: Aug 27, 2007 at 08:01 »

Chiefs singed Drummond.
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« Reply #12 on: Aug 27, 2007 at 09:37 »

IMHO, Reid is a cut.  

Only way for him to make the team is if they decide to keep 6 WRs because I personally think that Ward, Holmes, Washington, Wilson, Young are all ahead of him on the depth chart.
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« Reply #13 on: Aug 27, 2007 at 09:48 »

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Can't argue that too much at this point.  He still can go on the practice squad, correct?  Give him another year to try to improve.

Dunno, maybe he's one of those guys who's lights out in practice, but just can't put it together come game time.

At this point, for me, if he makes it, fine.  If not, that's OK too.
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« Reply #14 on: Aug 27, 2007 at 09:49 »

I think they keep Reid, use him on KR, and maybe Ced or Coke  :(  on PR.  With the idea of working Reid in there as well.  

But then again, maybe the damage is irreparable.  Tomlin says he's juding guys by how they play in games.
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« Reply #15 on: Aug 27, 2007 at 09:55 »

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Only way for him to make the team is if they decide to keep 6 WRs because I personally think that Ward, Holmes, Washington, Wilson, Young are all ahead of him on the depth chart.
I hate to agree with that but I do. I'm always waiting on Reid to do something big,  but you cant always keep guys on potential alone. Reid better make some plays next week (or just hold on the ball) or it will hard for Tomlin to keep him.

Cant bash Ced right now with the pre-season he's had.
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« Reply #16 on: Aug 27, 2007 at 12:32 »

No way Reid makes it to the practice squad, though.

Watch the f'n Patsies pick him up and turn him into a star..sigh.
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« Reply #17 on: Aug 27, 2007 at 12:57 »

I still don't think he's a cut... yet.  And we have Thursday to evaluate him one more time.

 
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« Reply #18 on: Aug 27, 2007 at 13:21 »

I still think Reid will make it.
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« Reply #19 on: Aug 28, 2007 at 08:20 »

I still think Reid will make the team, but he has a short leash. He could be an in-season cut or demotion to the PS.

The fair catch at the five upset me nearly as much as the fumble. I don't get Reid. He looks like he's never fielded a punt in his life sometimes. Maybe he gets too stressed out and can't handle the pressure or something.

Given his insane production in college, I'd like to see him get a shot, although one fumbled punt is often enough to swing a football game. So, who knows.
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« Reply #20 on: Aug 28, 2007 at 08:30 »

You have to imagine that the difference in fieldig punts in the NFL versus college must be pretty remarkable.  I'd guess you're dealing with longer punts, higher punts, greater hang times, faster and stronger opposition and less of a talent gap between your guys and their guys.  

Maybe, just maybe, Willie Reid was a great college player, like Kordell, or Charles Rogers.
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« Reply #21 on: Aug 28, 2007 at 08:33 »

If he's healthy, Tim Dwight instead of Reid.
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« Reply #22 on: Aug 28, 2007 at 09:16 »

In Dante Hall's first two years as the KC punt returner he averaged 6.2 and 7.3 YPR.  That was a total of 38 punt returns for those two years.  He had zero TDs and 2 (total) 20+ yard returns  with one fumble.

Given that Reid was injured for most of his rookie year, and given his relative youth regardless, I would argue that we are being a bit too hasty.  If he stays healthy this year and then still does nothing, then I think we can consider moving on. I would be very surprised and disappointed if he were a cut.
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« Reply #23 on: Aug 28, 2007 at 09:23 »

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That's the key. After last season and this preseason, I'd be happy to just get a fair catch every time. Catch being the key word.
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That's the key. After last season and this preseason, I'd be happy to just get a fair catch every time. Catch being the key word.
I understand, but with the entire city hyperventilating every time anyone goes back to catch a punt we are putting way to much pressure on the returners and causing them to think too much.

Consider Santonio Holmes' first season returning punts.  In the first half of the season he and Coke were terrible.  I am too lazy to redo the research right now, but in the first 8 games Holmes averaged about 7 YPR, fumbled repeatedly, and had no positive impact on returns.  In the second half of the year, Holmes was one of the best punt returners in the NFL (he was top-4, I can't remember where exactly) and averaged something like 12+ YPR with one TD.  The difference - people became numb to mistakes and had no expectations.  Right now we haven't had any football for months and people (including the players) are busily flashing back to the beginning of last year.

Let them iron out the kicks.  There is no need to stress about issues during the preseason.  
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« Reply #25 on: Aug 29, 2007 at 09:29 »

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« Reply #26 on: Aug 29, 2007 at 10:09 »

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