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« on: Sep 10, 2007 at 06:57 »

Well Buffalo lost a heartbreaker to hopefully a good Broncos team. The D was bend but dont break but was stuck on the field for 34 minutes so eventually they were gonna give up some points. The D suffered major losses personnel wise. S Ko Simpson out with a knee, LB/S Coy Wire out, CB Jason Webster out broken arm, Also out before the game was DE Ryan Denney broken foot and LB Keith Ellison ankle sprain. Sadly the biggest injury was to TE Keith Everett (keep him in your prayers) spinal cord injury/incomplete paralysis from the neck down. His 3rd and 4th vertebrae were removed last night.

Well Marshawn Lynch played like an animal all game and will be a force to be reckoned with all year. The WR's were non existent because JP never threw the damn ball all game. Hopefully it was because of Denvers awesome secondary. The special teams were the MVP for the Bills. Roscoe Parrish scored on a 74 yd PR, and Mcgee had a 48 yd KOR.

My prediction is the Steelers will blitz all game next week. Either Jp has to take chances throwing the ball or break contain and run or it will be a looooooong ass game. Im not worried about the special teams at all. It has been Buffalo's bread and butter the past 3 years. The OL looked good. Jason Peters is a monster who was destroying Broncos all game. He is huge and fast (former TE).

It was rumored that Buff will go 4 WR alot next week (Price, Evans, Reed, Parish) to spread the Pitt D out a bit. I like our top 4 WR but we could have Jerry Rice, Lance Allworth, Don Hutson and Marvin Harrison and it wouldnt matter if JP doesnt throw to them when they r open.

The D is to banged up to make a huge impact. Its week 2 and almost 50% of our starters are out already.
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« Reply #1 on: Sep 10, 2007 at 07:06 »

Also Posluszny is a freakin animal. Was all over the field
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« Reply #2 on: Sep 10, 2007 at 07:39 »

That's a tidal wave of injuries.   Really a shame about Everett, you hate to see that unless the guy's a Patriot or Raven... But seriously, we'll hope the guy can walk again.

It wouldn't surprise me if the Bills spread it next week, but I like our DB depth, so depending on how LeBeau schemes it, that might not be the best tactic.  We'll see.

Steelers played an utterly laughable Browns team, and have no real idea of how good they are.  Some things that needed work, though:  converting 3rd downs was a big problem, receivers and RBs dropping passes was pretty bad, and the left side of the OL is susceptible to speed rushers.

I think without the Bills' injuries, the Steelers would have won 23-13, with them I'll say 30-13.
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« Reply #3 on: Sep 10, 2007 at 08:16 »

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Im not worried about the special teams at all. It has been Buffalo's bread and butter the past 3 years.

Special teams are very important.  But if it's your "bread and butter," you're in trouble.

Sad to hear about the injuries, especially to Everett.  Who knows, but it looked like something from which he will recover, as in it didn't appear to be a worst case scenario kind of hit.  Also heard this morning that the Denver trainer some him move a little, so that gives some hope.

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Steelers played an utterly laughable Browns team, and have no real idea of how good they are.

I thought that our defense was fairly "vanilla" against a really bad team.  I suspect that we'll see more stuff as the season goes on--at least, I hope we do.  Honestly, I don't think it will be much different this week against Buffalo, because I don't think they're very good.  It's a shame, cause I've always kind of wanted to see them do well.

Sorry, Jason, but with all those injuries, I see a 34-13 Steelers win.
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« Reply #4 on: Sep 10, 2007 at 08:28 »

The Bills can definitely give the Steelers trouble -- far more trouble than did the Browns.

But I'd say this: I don't think the spread works on us like it used to. I think teams used it on us so often back in '02/'03 that we worked really hard to counter it. Plus that puts a lot of pressure on your QB to not screw up, and all it would take would be a couple or three bad reads that lead to picks.

I think the strategy that works better on us is max protection with a patient approach to the passing game, especially on 1st downs. Then draw plays on 2nd- and 3rd-down. Teams that move it on us tend to use this sort of formula.

I don't think the Bills or any team can run on us consistently out of the gate. If Lynch gets yards, it'll be because the Bills' passing game makes us concede the run a bit.

the Bills' defense is impressive and they'll give our O a very hard time.  
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« Reply #5 on: Sep 10, 2007 at 08:51 »

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The bills are not going to resemble a preseason squad that commits countless mistakes such as that joke of a franchise in cleveland.  They have a better O line, Better defense, and doesnt look like an over all cluster when they have the ball in general.

A win will not be given to us in this one.   it will have to be done the old fashioned way and earn it.  

im just glad its at home...if on the road..unno?
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« Reply #6 on: Sep 10, 2007 at 08:59 »

While I do believe the Bills are a step in the right direction over the stains, I think we should be ok.
Lynch, a good showing for game one by a rookie, is facing an entirely different matter in the Steel D.  He will learn soon enough that you DO NOT HAVE SUCCESS RUNNING AGAINST PITT.

I expect Losman and Evans (or one of the WR's) to hook up for a long one, but I dont expect it to make a difference.

KR is a strong point for Buffalo, but Sepulveda looked very un-rookie like in his first showing.  Who did Reed steel the leg from?  I dont know If I have ever seen him place so many kickoffs in the end zone......a great way to neutralize the ST play.

A banged up D in Buffalo could make for a big day for FWP, not to mention aid Ben in further erasing last years numbers.  Good start with a 4-0 TD-INT ratio.  Our receivers are good, but too many drops to early in the season.  I think Santonio has been hanging out with Ward.....did you see the hit he laid?  Left nothing but a stain on the field.  Ben appeared to have incredible touch on the ball most of the game, especially the TD's to Ward and Holmes.

At the bar I was at someone commented on a lack of WR height could hurt the Steeler Redzone passing offense.  A 6'5 Miller and 6'7 Spaeth stopped that talk.

Again, I look for a more impressive showing from Buffalo than Cleveland gave, after all, Appalachain St. could give them a run, but expect the result to be the same, another Pitt win.

Steelers 37     Buffalo 20
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« Reply #7 on: Sep 10, 2007 at 09:03 »

Let's not forget that they actually threw the ball to Heath.

This offense can be SICK if the O-Line can just get it going a little bit.
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« Reply #8 on: Sep 10, 2007 at 09:04 »

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I thought that our defense was fairly "vanilla" against a really bad team. I suspect that we'll see more stuff as the season goes on--at least, I hope we do. Honestly, I don't think it will be much different this week against Buffalo, because I don't think they're very good. It's a shame, cause I've always kind of wanted to see them do well.

The Celeveland game felt like a preseason effort.  You knew exactly when **** stopped calling his A list plays (the possession in the 2nd quarter that ended in  fumble), and I'm glad he did.  Why give the Pasties an extra half of game tape to study?


I thought Ryan Clark played one hell of a game yeseterday, all things considered.  He was persistently around the ball as well as used in blitz packages, got a sack, I think.  Also, Sepulveda had four punts inside the 20.
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« Reply #9 on: Sep 10, 2007 at 09:10 »

The first quarter and a half I was worried our new spread offense with BA was going to be nothing more than screen passes.  Under Cowher we didn't run them enough, and yesterday was too much.  I'm not saying we have to bomb it 40 yards down the field every time, but how about some 10 yard patterns?

I think the jury is still out on Denver, but they did gain about 400 yards against Buffalo.  Hopefully it will be another positive building block for the Steelers.

Jason - glad you posted.  It is a friendly bunch here, except for later in the season, and when we are losing!!!!!

 
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« Reply #10 on: Sep 10, 2007 at 09:14 »

Yesterday did have a preseason feel to it, which is why I think BA was "working on" screens.  I thought he playcalled very well overall.

Wow, Bills' O stats were miserable yesterday.  
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« Reply #11 on: Sep 10, 2007 at 09:15 »

I agree with the screens...what was up with that? Ran about 20 of them, and most of them didn't work.

Marshawn Lynch looked really, really good yesterday. He won't look that good against us, though.  
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« Reply #12 on: Sep 10, 2007 at 09:30 »

Our 3rd down efficiency did get better, somewhat.  At one time 1 for 5 (20%?!?), wound up around 42%.  So, we clearly needed a game to work out a few offensive issues.

Lynch did have a great day yesterday, but the Steelers don't like people who try running on them.  Some weeks you do well, others not, Marshawn.  That's life in the NFL.

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TOTAL FIRST DOWNS 13
By Rushing 7
By Passing 5
By Penalty 1
THIRD DOWN EFFICIENCY 4/13 - 30%
FOURTH DOWN EFFICIENCY 2/2  - 100%
TOTAL NET YARDS 184
Total Rushing/Passing Plays (includes Sacks) 47
Average Gain per Offensive Play 3.9
NET YARDS RUSHING 112
Total Rushing Plays 26
Average Gain per Rushing Play 4.3
Tackled for a Loss (Number-Yards) 0-0
NET YARDS PASSING 47
Times Sacked (Number-Yards) 2 - 25
Gross Yards Passing 72
PASS COMP-ATT-INT 14 - 21 - 1
Average Gain per Passing Play (includes Sacks) 1.0
KICKOFFS (Number-In End Zone-Touchbacks) 3 - 3 - 0
PUNTS (Number-Average) 6 - 43.7
Blocked 0
Net Punting Average 42.0
FGs BLOCKED - PATs BLOCKED 0 - 0
TOTAL RETURN YARDAGE (excludes Kickoffs) 124
Punt Returns (Number-Yards) 2 - 88
Kickoff Returns (Number-Yards) 4 - 112
Interception Returns (Number-Yards) 1 - 36
PENALTIES (Number-Yards) 5 - 40
FUMBLES (Number-Lost) 1 - 0
TOUCHDOWNS 2
Rushing 1
Passing 0
Interceptions 0
Kickoff Returns 0
EXTRA POINTS (Made-Attempted) 2 - 2
Kicking (Made-Attempted) 2 - 2
Two Point Conversions (Made-Attempted) 0 - 0
FIELD GOALS (Made-Attempted) 0 - 1
RED ZONE EFFICIENCY 0/1 - 0%
GOAL TO GO EFFICIENCY 0/0 - 0%
SAFETIES 0
FINAL SCORE 14 
TIME OF POSSESSION 26:48

Yes, Lynch was the sole bright spot.

Losman was miserable.  Good Denver secondary, but that good?  Really?  How do you average a yard per passing play net, under two gross?
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« Reply #13 on: Sep 10, 2007 at 18:37 »

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Our 3rd down efficiency did get better, somewhat.  At one time 1 for 5 (20%?!?), wound up around 42%.
I swear at one point we were 1 of 8 third down conversion wise.  At least the announcers said so but we all know they couldn't get names or positions right so maybe I shouldn't trust it.  We hit a bunch on runs later I remember though.
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« Reply #14 on: Sep 10, 2007 at 20:29 »

Man, if all Losman could do against that Denver D is 97 yards ... can't say I'm too worried.

Plus, I think the Steelers O' is far ahead of the Bills' unit.

Gimme 24-9, Steelers.

Lynch is punished and Losman turns it over twice.  Bring on the 49ers, there is much pain to be dealt before the so-called tougher part of the shedule starts.

 
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« Reply #15 on: Sep 11, 2007 at 09:31 »

Really tragic for that TE, most likely paralyzed.

Have to think these Bills won't have their heads in the game too much.

 
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« Reply #16 on: Sep 11, 2007 at 09:45 »

At this point, I'm hoping he lives, and can retain the mental and develop the physical ability to have the best possible life from a wheelchair. His biggest challenge is going to be learning to accept what's happened and make the best of what he has.

I know that people all across the country suffer these kinds of injuries in car accidents and such on a regular basis, but you can't help feel awful for this kid and really pull for him - I wish him all the best care and support.  
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« Reply #17 on: Sep 11, 2007 at 10:08 »

In cases like this, does the team or league ensure he is well taken care of for life?
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« Reply #18 on: Sep 11, 2007 at 10:16 »

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In cases like this, does the team or league ensure he is well taken care of for life?
Interesting question. I'd have to think there are NFL lifetime disability benefits along with whatever insurance he has, plus possibly some kind of state and federal benefits may apply, too.

I wonder if NFL players are able to purchase insurance policies protecting themselves from career-ending injuries. I could see, though, how insurance providers would be really wary about providing such insurance. Or its so expensive that a player would not want it.

Finally, it will depend on how hurt he is. People who can't work because of injuries or illness receive some kind of federal social security benefit, I believe.
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« Reply #19 on: Sep 11, 2007 at 10:22 »

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I wonder if NFL players are able to purchase insurance policies protecting themselves from career-ending injuries.

I feel sure that they are.  I remember hearing that Leinart, Peyton Manning, etc. took out policies before returning to school for an extra year.  I feel sure that pro players are allowed to do such; in fact, I think that Jason Williams had such a policy prior to his motorcycle accident.

Also, I doubt that the NFL, considering the publicity of late, is going to shortchange this guy.  At least I would hope not.

Honestly, I am shocked that this is so bad.  It just looked like a routine hit.  His head was down a little, but not so much that it would appear to cause a life-threatening injury.  Very sad, and I pray that he survives this and is able to recover to some degree.
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« Reply #20 on: Sep 11, 2007 at 10:35 »

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I feel sure that they are.  I remember hearing that Leinart, Peyton Manning, etc. took out policies before returning to school for an extra year.  I feel sure that pro players are allowed to do such; in fact, I think that Jason Williams had such a policy prior to his motorcycle accident.
 
What's interesting, though, is that all those guys are high-profile stars slated to make tens of millions of dollars (plus endorsements). Also, they play positions that are unlikely to suffer career-ending injury (when compared to other football positions). So for them, it's a different investment and there's different kinds of risks and so forth.

I just wonder what kind of insurance deal a scrub TE could get.

 
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I don't think it's a question of if they're able and more an issue of if they're proactive enough.  

I'm guessing they probably get some kind of disability insurance through the PA and maybe even their team, but that's not to stop them from going out and buying an individual disability policy for a couple million to supplement.    The cost isn't pennies on the dollar, but it's not exorbitant either; not even for a guy making the league minimum.

IIRC, McGahee had one prior to his injury @ Miami.
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« Reply #22 on: Sep 11, 2007 at 17:34 »

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I think he gets disability pay and Mike Webster's old stationwagon.....
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« Reply #23 on: Sep 12, 2007 at 12:56 »

Everett's probably gonna walk again (freakin miracle). Like the scene from Rocky 2 in the hospital.
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Adrian played by Kevin Everett
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JP: Listen if you dont want me mixing it up with the Steelers anymore we can make out some other kind of way you know.

Everett: There's 1 think I want you to do for me

JP: What

Everett: Come here

JP: What?

Everett: (smiling) Win. (music starts paying). Win.

Marv: What are we wating for!!!!






Sorry you guys are toast now lol!!!!
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« Reply #24 on: Sep 12, 2007 at 15:08 »

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Uh, one and the same?

Good luck Sunday.  Very much hoping for an injury free, hard hitting game.

Buffalo worries me because of the "let's win one for Everett" factor and they just seem like a team that isn't that impressive on paper, but always manages to keep it close.

One thing's for sure, I'm not going anywhere near that (-10) spread.
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