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« on: Sep 24, 2007 at 08:18 »

Do you think Douchette gave his approval for this article???

What a stupid trade!
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« Reply #1 on: Sep 24, 2007 at 09:15 »

That was the first thing I said after he broke loose.  "Will this shut the 'bad trade' folks up?"  My wife then asked why I talked to myself so much.

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« Reply #2 on: Sep 24, 2007 at 10:36 »

Bouchette should do a full retraction of that article.

the search is over. Sit down Reid, Sit down Santonio, Ced, etc. Rossum is the man.
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« Reply #3 on: Sep 24, 2007 at 11:47 »

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the search is over. Sit down Reid, Sit down Santonio, Ced, etc. Rossum is the man.
This seems to have made a huge difference in field position this year, kickoffs and Punts.  Although yesterday he didn't do jack after the TD.  

9ers seemed to have ridiculous coverage on the 65 yard punts to where Rossum wasn't getting much of a chance to even make 1 move.

 
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« Reply #4 on: Sep 24, 2007 at 12:00 »

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Bouchette should do a full retraction of that article.

the search is over. Sit down Reid, Sit down Santonio, Ced, etc. Rossum is the man.
This seems to have made a huge difference in field position this year, kickoffs and Punts.  Although yesterday he didn't do jack after the TD.  

9ers seemed to have ridiculous coverage on the 65 yard punts to where Rossum wasn't getting much of a chance to even make 1 move.
the 9er punter was their MVP yesterday. Rossum had to backtrack almost 10-15 yards on every kick. 57 yard avg!! AR really didnt get much room at all. one of the things I like about Rossum is the comfort you have that he will field every kick without the worry of a drop or mental error. He will break several more before years end.
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« Reply #5 on: Sep 24, 2007 at 12:04 »

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He will break several more before years end.

Like I said when we got him, I don't care how many he runs back as long as he doesn't start dropping them on the ground.
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« Reply #6 on: Sep 24, 2007 at 12:05 »

One more thing about Rossum--I'm pretty sure he was a nickel/dime DB for Atlanta.  Didn't I see him lined up on the offense once yesterday?
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« Reply #7 on: Sep 24, 2007 at 12:42 »

Good thing they kept Reid over Young.
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« Reply #8 on: Sep 24, 2007 at 13:38 »

I must admit that I was against the trade.  We invested a 3rd round pick in Reid, and last year's injury means that he remains little more than a rookie.  In a salary cap league, your draft picks must develop for a team to remain competitive/good.  It really bugs me that Reid has as of yet never gotten much of a chance in a regular season game.  Right now we still have a 3rd round pick that remains a complete mystery, and cutting essentially a rookie 3rd rounder seems to be even more foolish.

Now maybe Reid's injury has permamently taken away much of the burst and quickness he had at FSU.  If so, then his fate is sealed.  However, if we never give him a chance (assuming health), then that is IMHO bad team management.  
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« Reply #9 on: Sep 24, 2007 at 14:15 »

I'm on record as saying Reid will prove to be a bust, so his status doesn't factor into my analysis of the Rossum trade.

"Doing something" on a punt return means so much more than return yards, and what we see from Rossum is not only big play potential, but solid decision making and handling on punts.  He's a "piece" guy, the kind that can improve a playoff team into a serious title contender.  Will he be the team MVP?  No.  Will he win us a game this year?  With his combined special teams contributions, I'd say yes.  Let's not forget that he made the tackle on a kickoff subsequent to his return (maybe not the next one, but the one after?) too.  Solid football player.  
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« Reply #10 on: Sep 24, 2007 at 17:29 »

I was initially kind of aggravated about the trade...not so much the conditional pick, but wanting to see what Reid could do over a full year.

 Rossum is steady and experienced at fielding punts, because, well, he has experience fielding punts. Dude can't get better during games if he doesn't get to play in games, so I can't blame Reid.

That said, I admit it IS nice to know that you have a guy who is absolutely capable back there returning. And, if Reid ISN'T suffering from a post-injury lack of speed, perhaps Rossum can help mentor him (kind of like how Bettis helped with the maturation of FWP).  

Perhaps I'm stubborn, but I still would like to see what Reid can do when he gets to play for a sustained period of time.  Once Rossum gets old and slows down, of course!

One point: I know it's a conditional pick, but what are the conditions, and how high a pick did we give up? I'd be thrilled if we gave up a 6, but furious if we gave up a 4 or higher.  
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« Reply #11 on: Sep 25, 2007 at 07:54 »

I'm just relieved that we finally have professional punt returning again.

As for Reid: I think that if he absolutely works his ass off, he can have an NFL career. His physical skills are good enough. But if he doesn't....he'll be out of football in a couple of years.
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« Reply #12 on: Sep 25, 2007 at 11:36 »

Just so everyone knows, Bouchette did not back down.
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« Reply #13 on: Sep 25, 2007 at 13:01 »

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Just so everyone knows, Bouchette did not back down.

Much has been made that it was the Steelers' first kickoff return for a TD in five seasons. It also was Rossum's first kickoff return for a TD in five years, and his first return of any kind for a TD in three years. Santonio Holmes returned a punt for a touchdown last year and averaged more than 10 yards a punt return. Rossum, who has not averaged more than 10 yards a punt return in the previous two seasons, has six punt returns this year for 2.7-yard average, including one of minus-four on Sunday. Rossum has been a wonderful kickoff and punt returner, but I think the Steelers already had one.

One has to wonder about the qulaity of Douchette's insight when all he can do is spout vaguely related numbers, without placing them in context.

One also notices a distinct sweeping-under-the-rug of Holmes' return-game deficiencies, such as putting the ball on the ground and conceding field position through his decision making.
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« Reply #14 on: Sep 25, 2007 at 13:27 »

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You have got to be kidding me.  The bottom line for me is that Rossum has not put the ball on the ground (yet I guess) and everything beyond that is gravy.

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« Reply #15 on: Sep 25, 2007 at 13:33 »

Not to mention: we need Holmes to develop into a star wideout ASAP.

Tomlin's right. Holmes should focus on that. Having him practice punt and kick returns is a waste of resources, I think. Also the injury risk.
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« Reply #16 on: Sep 26, 2007 at 09:03 »

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Tomlin's right. Holmes should focus on that. Having him practice punt and kick returns is a waste of resources, I think. Also the injury risk.

No offense, Herc, but I'm calling BS on that one.  If Tomlin thought that Holmes could do the job, he'd be back there.  Returning the ball should not have any negative impact on his receiving.  Fact is that, as spectacular as he might be, Holmes can't be trusted to handle the football and Tomlin isn't going to tolerate that.  "He needs to concentrate on receiver" is a nice way of saying "I don't want him back there dropping the ball on the F-ing ground."
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