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« on: Sep 24, 2007 at 19:15 »

Meant to post this when I heard it this morning, but didn't get the chance.

ON SC, Jaws was asked about the Steelers' 3-0 record.  His response was something to the effect of, Tomlin found the note Bill Cowher left in the bottom drawer about keys to success, and it said BALANCED OFFENSE.

Normally, I like Jaws.  His breakdown of plays is generally spot-on.  But on this one, WTF?  First, does anyone recall anyone at any time in the last 15 years hearing someone refer to the Steelers offense as "balanced?"  All it's been is "Steelers pound you with the run, and mix in the pass.  60% running plays or more."  The only exception was the year with Maddox when we went overly crazy with the passing game.

Second, the key to this season so far has been the Defense.  When your D/special teams scores 14 and gives up 13 (I don't count the FG where the Niners started in FG range after a turnover against them), I'd say that makes it a pretty easy day for your offense.  26 points allowed in 3 games, seven of which were in garbage time?  Yeah, offense is the key.

 If that note was in the desk, Cowher had written over it in big letters with a red pen "Load of crap.  Real key to success - Run, Run, Run, punt, play D.
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« Reply #1 on: Sep 24, 2007 at 20:16 »

I agree.  In fact, the original note had prolly been written by Noll, and used as a coaster by Cowher.
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« Reply #2 on: Sep 24, 2007 at 20:35 »

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Normally, I like Jaws.

That's your first mistake. Dude is a hack and he's been average in everything he's done in the NFL.

Seriously. His achievements as a pro: took a team to the Super Bowl (and got their ass beat) a la Grossman, Eason, and Kerry Collins. He's Matt Hasselbeck except with way worse numbers.

He can't pick games if his life depended on it.

He had some weird, borderline-unprofessional relationship with his coach Dick Vermeil and people still credit him for their nice little kinship. It's been thirty years after the fact and the act is still going on. Neither one can be interviewed about football without one mentioning the other. I'm not saying it's gay or anything just that Jaws like's watching men on film, Vermeil cries all the time, and the performance of the two of them announcing the second game of last year's MNF doubleheader (where they basically made out with one another) helped Jaworski land the Monday Night gig this year. That gave Ronnie the forum to drop the infamous week two (during a Bengals game discussion about Chad, Jeremi, Rudi and almost TJ Housh) quote of: "...And you know who's the biggest Johnson?!" before ESPN thankfully went to commercial....just before he said something like "My man ****'s ****!!!"

Furthermore, Jaworski has all that "special" access to NFL supplied end-zone game film. AKA "The same film that the coaches are using" (save for Belichick) or whatever. Despite that, Jaworski provides very little insight as to breaking down X's and O's. Seriously it's always one or two plays, out of 100 some, where he can highlight something obvious....

First off: The angle sucks. It's nice to see the whole play develop but fercrissakes do we need to be 6 miles away from the turf? Joe Montana Football for Sega Genesis thinks the quality is supbar. It's so far away, man. God forbid the Goodyear blimp fly in the way of the shot and block some action. Does ESPN have to pay NASA to put that camera on their spaceship?

Secondly I went to the Steelers game yesterday, and while Jaws knows a TON more than I do, I called out at least 3 plays that I remember (that wide open out to Nate from the four-wide...AKA "Turn around and look for the ball, Washington!!", the draw to Ward, and even an audible that went to Santonio for his longest rec). So anyone can do it for a bit.

Third, in a desperate attempt to get back my train of thought: They run the footage and it's 3rd and 10 where Detroit runs some guy in motion to set up trips to one side, everyone curls around, it gets covered, and Kitna "progressed through is reads" before chucking up and 8 yard wobbler that Megatron Johnson catches, runs someone over and gets the first down. Great innovation by Martz and wily veteran poise by Kitna. Either that or it's some play accenting that attention to LaDanian Tomlinson leads to Gates being open on a play-action call. Thanks a million.

Maybe I just don't like the guy but I swear that Hoge clearly provides much better insight on the Edge NFL Matchup show and ESPN1/2/News/WTFever. Also the NFL Network show "Playbook" (which I've only seen like twice) has been a revelation and offers better info than the Jaws breakdowns. Notably led Sterling Sharpe (best in the business...and not just because he was my main man whenever I first started playing ball), Baldinger, and ex-Steelers great Solomon Wilcots.

I hope to God that at some point this season Kornheiser chooses to reflect on the bond between a QB and "receiver" by saying "they go together like dick and jaws" so that they both get fired. Bring back Dennis Miller. Or just put Sterling Sharpe on.

My main beef with Jaws is that he's monumentally overrated. He can't pick games. AND he seems to hate Ben Roethlisberger. Seriously produce some evidence otherwise. I don't know if it's that he just doesn't know how good Ben has been, or is capable of being, or if he's just hating on the kid ? Because he never gives him credit. I will give Jaworski the benefit of the doubt.  I'll say he does see it and he is just afraid that Roethsliberger, the multi-talented physically-gifted Super Bowl winning 25-year-old with Euro roots, will steal some of his "Polish Rifle" thunder.

That has to be it.

I personally believe (as does Ms South Carolina I am sure) that "The Polish Rifle" is an offensive nickname. I mean guns are bad to begin with. I understand the 2nd amendment protection effort but the only person around that actually signed it was New England TE Benjamin Watson...oh he wasn't? Well his name sounds like it.

You also have to consider that some firearm built by the Poles could put us all in jeopardy. Especially them. And then we WOULD never get to see a Pole on Jeopardy.  /racist

Jaws was a scrappy hard-worker (aka underskilled in most areas) who was revered in Philly because he was "The Polish Rifle", and more accurately: a white dude.

Nevermind the facts of his .500 record, a few more QBs-to-INTs, etc....his one Super Bowl appearance is enough to make him a hero. Yet everyone is quick to ignore the Super Bowl appearance, multiple NFC playoff berths, title game appearances, NFL F'N MVPs, and records set by guys like Randall Cunningham and Donovan McNabb. I've seen them both booed the hell off the field.

In all seriousness that's the best thing Jaws ever had going for him. That whole "Polish Rifle" shtick. That and his sweet, sexy beard. I mean, uhh, that's what Dick Vermiel told me to say.
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« Reply #3 on: Sep 24, 2007 at 22:14 »

Mr. Gambini Joyce, that is a lucid, intelligent, well-thought out objection...

Overruled.
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« Reply #4 on: Sep 24, 2007 at 22:44 »

Everything that guy says is bullshit!
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« Reply #5 on: Sep 25, 2007 at 04:59 »

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Everything that guy says is bullshit!
Real reply or excellent Cousin Vinnie reference?
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« Reply #6 on: Sep 25, 2007 at 07:40 »

The two what . . yutes?
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« Reply #7 on: Sep 25, 2007 at 07:52 »

I think that possibly the difference with Tomlin we're seeing early is in our pass coverage -- his rep as a great pass coverage teacher seems to be in effect.

It just always seemed under Cowher that when we brought extra pass rushers, and the rush got blocked, I winced, because I knew people would be open everywhere.

Seems like under Tomlin, that's not really happening, and QBs look more confused than ever.

I think what we have is a great 3-4 zone blitz innovator collaborating very well with a coverage specialist and we're getting the best of both worlds.

Caveat to the above is, let's see how we do against Cincy and NE.
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« Reply #8 on: Sep 25, 2007 at 10:49 »

that "biggest johnson" quote is a classic...i like it almost as much as when during the Ravens/Steelers monday night game on Halloween a few years ago, Al Michaels after a tackle said, "the cornerback just came from behind and gave him a reacharound."

 
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« Reply #9 on: Sep 25, 2007 at 14:00 »

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Normally, I like Jaws.

That's your first mistake. Dude is a hack and he's been average in everything he's done in the NFL.

Seriously. His achievements as a pro: took a team to the Super Bowl (and got their ass beat) a la Grossman, Eason, and Kerry Collins. He's Matt Hasselbeck except with way worse numbers.

He can't pick games if his life depended on it.

He had some weird, borderline-unprofessional relationship with his coach Dick Vermeil and people still credit him for their nice little kinship. It's been thirty years after the fact and the act is still going on. Neither one can be interviewed about football without one mentioning the other. I'm not saying it's gay or anything just that Jaws like's watching men on film, Vermeil cries all the time, and the performance of the two of them announcing the second game of last year's MNF doubleheader (where they basically made out with one another) helped Jaworski land the Monday Night gig this year. That gave Ronnie the forum to drop the infamous week two (during a Bengals game discussion about Chad, Jeremi, Rudi and almost TJ Housh) quote of: "...And you know who's the biggest Johnson?!" before ESPN thankfully went to commercial....just before he said something like "My man ****'s ****!!!"

Furthermore, Jaworski has all that "special" access to NFL supplied end-zone game film. AKA "The same film that the coaches are using" (save for Belichick) or whatever. Despite that, Jaworski provides very little insight as to breaking down X's and O's. Seriously it's always one or two plays, out of 100 some, where he can highlight something obvious....

First off: The angle sucks. It's nice to see the whole play develop but fercrissakes do we need to be 6 miles away from the turf? Joe Montana Football for Sega Genesis thinks the quality is supbar. It's so far away, man. God forbid the Goodyear blimp fly in the way of the shot and block some action. Does ESPN have to pay NASA to put that camera on their spaceship?

Secondly I went to the Steelers game yesterday, and while Jaws knows a TON more than I do, I called out at least 3 plays that I remember (that wide open out to Nate from the four-wide...AKA "Turn around and look for the ball, Washington!!", the draw to Ward, and even an audible that went to Santonio for his longest rec). So anyone can do it for a bit.

Third, in a desperate attempt to get back my train of thought: They run the footage and it's 3rd and 10 where Detroit runs some guy in motion to set up trips to one side, everyone curls around, it gets covered, and Kitna "progressed through is reads" before chucking up and 8 yard wobbler that Megatron Johnson catches, runs someone over and gets the first down. Great innovation by Martz and wily veteran poise by Kitna. Either that or it's some play accenting that attention to LaDanian Tomlinson leads to Gates being open on a play-action call. Thanks a million.

Maybe I just don't like the guy but I swear that Hoge clearly provides much better insight on the Edge NFL Matchup show and ESPN1/2/News/WTFever. Also the NFL Network show "Playbook" (which I've only seen like twice) has been a revelation and offers better info than the Jaws breakdowns. Notably led Sterling Sharpe (best in the business...and not just because he was my main man whenever I first started playing ball), Baldinger, and ex-Steelers great Solomon Wilcots.

I hope to God that at some point this season Kornheiser chooses to reflect on the bond between a QB and "receiver" by saying "they go together like dick and jaws" so that they both get fired. Bring back Dennis Miller. Or just put Sterling Sharpe on.

My main beef with Jaws is that he's monumentally overrated. He can't pick games. AND he seems to hate Ben Roethlisberger. Seriously produce some evidence otherwise. I don't know if it's that he just doesn't know how good Ben has been, or is capable of being, or if he's just hating on the kid ? Because he never gives him credit. I will give Jaworski the benefit of the doubt.  I'll say he does see it and he is just afraid that Roethsliberger, the multi-talented physically-gifted Super Bowl winning 25-year-old with Euro roots, will steal some of his "Polish Rifle" thunder.

That has to be it.

I personally believe (as does Ms South Carolina I am sure) that "The Polish Rifle" is an offensive nickname. I mean guns are bad to begin with. I understand the 2nd amendment protection effort but the only person around that actually signed it was New England TE Benjamin Watson...oh he wasn't? Well his name sounds like it.

You also have to consider that some firearm built by the Poles could put us all in jeopardy. Especially them. And then we WOULD never get to see a Pole on Jeopardy.  /racist

Jaws was a scrappy hard-worker (aka underskilled in most areas) who was revered in Philly because he was "The Polish Rifle", and more accurately: a white dude.

Nevermind the facts of his .500 record, a few more QBs-to-INTs, etc....his one Super Bowl appearance is enough to make him a hero. Yet everyone is quick to ignore the Super Bowl appearance, multiple NFC playoff berths, title game appearances, NFL F'N MVPs, and records set by guys like Randall Cunningham and Donovan McNabb. I've seen them both booed the hell off the field.

In all seriousness that's the best thing Jaws ever had going for him. That whole "Polish Rifle" shtick. That and his sweet, sexy beard. I mean, uhh, that's what Dick Vermiel told me to say.
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