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« Reply #10 on: Oct 03, 2007 at 11:03 »

I do remember seeing that formation, but couldn't remember the outcome.  Well, forgot about the penalty.  There were two early 4Q penalties on offense.  First was: 2-10-PIT24 (14:49) PENALTY on PIT-W.Colon, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at PIT 24 - No Play. That led to 3rd and 15, incomplete to Heat, punt, re-punt, Arizona PR for TD, loss of game.

Second was: 3-18-PIT33 (12:45) (Shotgun)
PENALTY on PIT-M.Smith, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at PIT 33 - No Play.
 I'm thinking this was the down and distance for the package discussed.

Does this formation work for a 3rd and 18 play?  What's the playcall?  

Side note: when Tomlin talked about false starts killing us, I brushed it off as coachspeak.  But looking at the first series in the 4Q where Colon jumped, hey, that led to a bad turn of events that killed it for us.  Colon maintains composure and we get the first down, maybe they don't get that PR for a score.  It's the little things.
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« Reply #11 on: Oct 03, 2007 at 11:22 »

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« Reply #12 on: Oct 04, 2007 at 09:49 »

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I do remember seeing that formation, but couldn't remember the outcome.  Well, forgot about the penalty.  There were two early 4Q penalties on offense.  First was: 2-10-PIT24 (14:49) PENALTY on PIT-W.Colon, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at PIT 24 - No Play. That led to 3rd and 15, incomplete to Heat, punt, re-punt, Arizona PR for TD, loss of game.

Second was: 3-18-PIT33 (12:45) (Shotgun)
PENALTY on PIT-M.Smith, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at PIT 33 - No Play.
 I'm thinking this was the down and distance for the package discussed.

Does this formation work for a 3rd and 18 play?  What's the playcall?  

Side note: when Tomlin talked about false starts killing us, I brushed it off as coachspeak.  But looking at the first series in the 4Q where Colon jumped, hey, that led to a bad turn of events that killed it for us.  Colon maintains composure and we get the first down, maybe they don't get that PR for a score.  It's the little things.
I don't remember it being 3-18, because I think I would have liked the formation a lot less in that case. Maybe I was just overjoyed to see something different, that I disregarded the down and distance. I agree it wouldn't work for 3rd and long. Very good on 3rd and short though.

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I don't remember seeing that formation but maybe I did, because I was thinking, before Ben threw the pick, about a little wishbone action with FWP, Kreider and Big Snacks. Put Miller in motion, and between the three of them, surely FWP could find a hole for a score.

I thought they tried Hampton in the backfield in the pre-season one time. Some LB lit up Hampton and he gave up the thoughts of playing offense. Maybe I'm just making shit up though.
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« Reply #13 on: Oct 05, 2007 at 01:49 »

FWIW, the Steelers should have better luck running this week.  The Seahawks front is nowhere near as stout, and if the LB's don't guess right, Willie will have a few opportunities.

I'd also like to see a spread against some of the bigger D-lines, but not without Ward at full bore.  There is no other WR on the Steelers that can handle the hot receiver role.  Holmes looks to be a year away from that.
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