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« Reply #10 on: Nov 01, 2007 at 12:02 »

I'm not going to add much to the good comments and responses here, but one thing I do wonder about Willie Reid:  Is he still a 4.3 guy after the injury?  When he came to the Steelers, he was allegedly faster than Fast Willie.  In his limited action, I have yet to see that kind of burst.
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« Reply #11 on: Nov 01, 2007 at 13:30 »

Willie Reid hasn't had much of a chance to play to show his speed.  Still, I like the little I have seen of him.  

I agree with the group that the failure of screens is Ben's lack of sale of them to the D. I also concur that he should be rolling out more.

I'd like to see some attempt to use pass plays that move the pocket -- maybe that would help the O-line protect better. Ben would certainly be comfortable moving, and it would put more pressure on the opponent's D-line -- especially later in the game.  
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« Reply #12 on: Nov 01, 2007 at 16:46 »

The incredible thing about Woodley is, despite not playing at all, he's second on the team in sacks. Seriously. I didn't expect much from Timmons outside of special teams this season. I think he's going to get the NFL's answer to a redshirt, which like others have said above, isn't all that uncommon in Big Dick's defense.

Also, I think the Dan Krieder/Carey Davis thing is the most overblown story line of the season.  
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« Reply #13 on: Nov 01, 2007 at 17:26 »

The problem with more roll-outs is that it automatically cuts the potential plays in  half; you're working with a smaller, more crowded window.  Or else you end up with a quarterback consistently throwing back against the grain.  I love it when ben does this (and it succeeds) in improv, but I'd hate to see it as an ongoing procedure.

While the rollout does buy time, I don't see it as a panacea to our protection problems.  
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« Reply #14 on: Nov 01, 2007 at 22:30 »

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10. Plays and formations I could stand to see less of: the quick WR screen, the empty back backfield, the single back backfield where Parker needs to run a good 7 yards just to get to the line of scrimmage.

I would like to see more of Wr screens...especially against a team like Baltimore and every other team that crowds in 8 players at the line of scrimmage.  Guarantee a few 7-8 yard gainers on on WR screens will drop that saftey back into coverage in no time.
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« Reply #15 on: Nov 02, 2007 at 08:03 »

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The incredible thing about Woodley is, despite not playing at all, he's second on the team in sacks. Seriously. I didn't expect much from Timmons outside of special teams this season. I think he's going to get the NFL's answer to a redshirt, which like others have said above, isn't all that uncommon in Big Dick's defense.

Also, I think the Dan Krieder/Carey Davis thing is the most overblown story line of the season.
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« Reply #16 on: Nov 02, 2007 at 09:15 »

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« Reply #17 on: Nov 02, 2007 at 09:34 »

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« Reply #18 on: Nov 02, 2007 at 10:05 »

Here's what I don't like about the WR screen:


1.  Throwing a lateral is always risky, as it could be ruled a fumble if dropped, or could cost the team yardage if it goes OB.

2.  If the corners are in a jam coverage, or even give a 4-yard cushion, they can still pick it off and return it for 6 the other way if they're anticipating it.

3.  It risks injury to some of your skill players by having one WR catch the ball when he's standing still, and forcing some of the others to be the primary blockers on the play, which they rarely are.

4.  Because of the nature of the play, there is a very slim chance we can gain large yardage off of it, or score from outside the redzone.  The defense has a better chance of scoring a TD on it than we do, IMO.


I can understand why some of you like it, but personally, I think the risks involved in the play far outweigh the positive outcomes we can garner from it.  I'm fine with it once a game, but Arians has been running it far too much for my liking.


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« Reply #19 on: Nov 02, 2007 at 10:23 »

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Here's what I don't like about the WR screen:


1.  Throwing a lateral is always risky, as it could be ruled a fumble if dropped, or could cost the team yardage if it goes OB.

2.  If the corners are in a jam coverage, or even give a 4-yard cushion, they can still pick it off and return it for 6 the other way if they're anticipating it.

3.  It risks injury to some of your skill players by having one WR catch the ball when he's standing still, and forcing some of the others to be the primary blockers on the play, which they rarely are.

4.  Because of the nature of the play, there is a very slim chance we can gain large yardage off of it, or score from outside the redzone.  The defense has a better chance of scoring a TD on it than we do, IMO.


I can understand why some of you like it, but personally, I think the risks involved in the play far outweigh the positive outcomes we can garner from it.  I'm fine with it once a game, but Arians has been running it far too much for my liking.


.WiH.
1. Run it out of shotgun, pass is automatically forward

2. you adjust for this by spacing of wide receivers, or by formation

3. anyone risks injuries evry play, and most wide receiver screens involve two linemen coming out on DBs and LBs to the play side, similar to running the counter trey or trap

4. 4yd gain is good regardless of run vs. pass, you throw that away from a trips formation, and you have a wr 1 on 1 with a db, possible big gain (think TO)

I don't think we should run it every series, but it is an extremely effective play if executed properly from a players, and coaches standpoint
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