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« on: Dec 05, 2007 at 01:02 »

This speaks mostly to our #1 and #2.. I think Timmons especially will be an excellent talent and i think Woodley was a great pick up as well..

But considering the play of our LB's so far this year i just can't help but wish we had gone with some OL help somewhere in there..

Farrior looks as good as he ever has for us.. he's always after the ball and doesn't look like he is getting much older.. so, i don't see any reason why there is a need to replace him..

Foote isn't great, but for a #2 MLB the guy is very solid, again i see no urgent need to replace him..

Harrison has been a monster and a HEALTHY monster.. nuff said

I know there are some folks in the forum here that are down on Haggans, but i don't see how he is a liability at all either..

it just seems like we still had a year or two to think about LB replacements.. and i understand the need for depth, but i think this organization is much better off slopping in LB than they are OL.. Especially, if we end up with more of a 4-3..

I am absolutely sick of Mahan and that's all there is to it.. The Simmons deal looks suspect but with a guy like Mahan beside him i'm not sure what to think..

however, it does look like we can concentrate on OL this year as most of our other positions look to be pretty solid.. with WR as the only exception, but i can live with Nate and Ced as #3 and #4 they seem to make a few plays here and or there when needed.. so hopefully the draft is shallow on LBs this year and extremely deep on OL, so that our draft last year, so that our draft is semi'ly justified..

and the Spaeth pick is starting to get under my skin b/c all he seems to be good for is TD catchs and i think finding a TE that can run a route and catch is easy enough to do without use of a #3 pick.. But it's early yet in his career so we'll see..

other than that i like what we've got.. I can say that if it comes down to it, and i sure as hell hope it doesn't, that i would not be terribly afraid of having Gay on the field and the same goes for UDFA Gary Russell (which i would like to ere what the coaches have thought of him so far, ya know has his work ethic been ok, good, or great? seems that was the huge concern, other than that he seemed to have all the tools..)

Sepulveda hasn't been booming like i expected but still he's got growing to do..


It's hard for me to say i wish we could do it over b/c Timmons really seems to fly to the ball, but the other half wants to see this OL fixed before we kill out Top 3 in the league QB..

maybe someone will say something to put me at ease one way or the other..


oh and something to fire yinz up as we head to NE.. I'm pretty sure they have the SF pick this year so they're looking at a top 5 selection as of right now..



 
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« Reply #1 on: Dec 05, 2007 at 09:36 »

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i think this organization is much better off slopping in LB than they are OL

IIRC, there wasn't much value there for oline at 15.  But I'm not sure IIRC.

Can't fault the Woodley pick in the 2nd, the few times I've seen him in the game he looks like he's ready to be a player.  Timmons?  Still not sure, but he doesn't have the look of certain other FSU linebackers that we've drafted.

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I know there are some folks in the forum here that are down on Haggans, but i don't see how he is a liability at all either..

Isn't he UFA, this year or next?  Doubt that we'll resign or extend him, unless it's at a seriously lower rate.

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it does look like we can concentrate on OL this year as most of our other positions look to be pretty solid

From the little I've seen, draft seems to be loaded at OL, and we need to stock up.  And I believe we need to get at least one FA OL--I'll be angry and disappointed if we don't do one or the other or both.

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I am absolutely sick of Mahan and that's all there is to it.. The Simmons deal looks suspect but with a guy like Mahan beside him i'm not sure what to think..

Back to this year...this could well be the combo that kills our season.

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Sepulveda hasn't been booming like i expected but still he's got growing to do..

Due to our poor coverage units, it looks like he's doing a lot more directional punting.  Better to get 40 yards and no return than suffer another Jets-type debacle.  Plus, he's punted on the opponents' side of the ball a good bit.

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oh and something to fire yinz up as we head to NE.. I'm pretty sure they have the SF pick this year so they're looking at a top 5 selection as of right now..

One more reason that SpyGate punishment was a joke.





 
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« Reply #2 on: Dec 05, 2007 at 11:51 »

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maybe someone will say something to put me at ease one way or the other..
 
Sorry, I'm also in that boat with ya.  When you like the Day Two picks over the Day One picks, that ain't good.

Woodley is the only guy I'm happy with, but I'll admit I'm a little biased there.  Still think he's going to be big for them down the road.  I'm guessing that Haggans (UFA) may not be back next year and LaMarr takes his spot.

Timmons?  Still don't see it.  But, to be fair, he hasn't really had much of a shot outside of special teams.  It's no secret I would've preferred any number of players there (O-line being near the top of the list), but he's here now so let's see what he can do.  Hopefully, we don't see him much this year.  That would mean that the LB group remains relatively healthy for the remainder.

Spaeth?

No comment.

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From the little I've seen, draft seems to be loaded at OL, and we need to stock up. And I believe we need to get at least one FA OL--I'll be angry and disappointed if we don't do one or the other or both.

Co-sign.  Draft OT and OC.  Buy an OG.

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I am absolutely sick of Mahan and that's all there is to it.. The Simmons deal looks suspect but with a guy like Mahan beside him i'm not sure what to think..

You know, the problem is I don't think Mahan is really cut out to be a C.  IIRC, he played mostly OG in Tampa and only spot duty at OC.  Maybe that's his problem?  Dunno.

I wanted Simmons cut before the season started; then, he played well in pre-season; then, they extended him.  I was fine with it because I thought he turned the corner, but it seems like he's gone steadily downhill since the ink dried on the contract.  If he even mildly turns it around and plays average to good, he'll be a decent bang for the buck OG.  Maybe if they upgrade the guy to his left, his play would improve.

In all honesty, I think the problem with the line itself (other than the too long to develop downfield plays and Ben's propensity to hang onto the ball too long) is that it's a group whose identity is a little in flux.  Guys like Simmons and Smith are road graters; much better at run blocking than pass blocking.  Faneca can kinda do it all, but he lacks some in pass blocking as well.  Colon was taken over Starks because he's supposedly a better pass blocker than the massive run blocker in Starks, but that hasn't really shown through much yet this year.

I know we'll keep hearing that Pittsburgh is "not going to abandon the run" and "will continue to be a run first team," but I don't buy that mantra.  Pittsburgh will go as far as Ben's arm will take them.  The running game is just along for the ride and help to keep defenses honest.  With that said, IMO, Pittsburgh needs to focus on drafting/signing versatile linemen that can at least pass and run block, but their forte should be on the former.

In the past, the Steelers went after big bastards that could pave the way for the running game.  Now, I think they need to focus more on guys that excel at creating a wall for the QB to do his job.  Until they do that, the group they have will continue to look like a band-aid for a broken arm solution.
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« Reply #3 on: Dec 05, 2007 at 12:22 »

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Pittsburgh will go as far as Ben's arm will take them.

That is gospel.  And IMO, it has been since he came into the Baltimore game in 2004.

We still lead the league in TOP, but not for the same reasons as in years past.  Yes, we've had some blowouts where we really just ran the ball, which adds to the stat.  But really, we've held the ball because Ben converts third downs and extends drives.  He's converting for us, and that's why we can keep the ball.

I also love our version of the no-huddle (echo, echo, echo).  I think Ben is great at it, and it's not exactly a "hurry-up" offense.  We'll still take the playclock down inside 5, but defenses can't change personnel.  Plus, there's nothing worse than having to sit in your stance for a long time if you're a defense.
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« Reply #4 on: Dec 05, 2007 at 14:07 »

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I also love our version of the no-huddle (echo, echo, echo). I think Ben is great at it, and it's not exactly a "hurry-up" offense. We'll still take the playclock down inside 5, but defenses can't change personnel. Plus, there's nothing worse than having to sit in your stance for a long time if you're a defense.

With all of the talk both in Pittsburgh and Boston about the Patriots being "tired," wouldn't it be smart for us to wear their defense down early by turning into the early '90's Buffalo Bills using the no-huddle offense?  Not letting these guys substitute in and out so freely should allow us to do anything we want on offense...
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