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« on: Dec 10, 2007 at 19:25 »

I just noticed that Willie Parker is currently the leading rusher in the NFL - he has a 17-yard lead on Adrian Peterson.

If he holds on, I believe he'll be the first Steeler to ever lead the league in rushing. As best I can find, Franco finished second in 1975, Barry Foster lost the lead on the seasons final week in 1992 to finish second behind Emmitt Smith, and the highest Bettis ever finished, as a Steeler, was third in 1996 and 1997. Although, had he stayed healthy in 2001 I think he'd have taken it.

Ultimately, the most important thing is wins, so if the Steelers win by throwing every play, great, but it's an interesting side story to watch down the stretch.
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« Reply #1 on: Dec 10, 2007 at 19:38 »

It's hard to believe a Steeler has never led the league in rushing. It would be nice to see Willie lead the league in rushing but I don't see it happening.

IMO, after next week Parker won't be in the lead. We always have trouble running against the Jags. Especially with our spotty o-line play this year. Plus in week 17 we have to face a tough Baltimore D. It will be tough for Parker to with the crown win those 2 tough run stopping teams.
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« Reply #2 on: Dec 11, 2007 at 06:39 »

That is all well and good, but what the Steelers need is a big back to be successful. </sarcasm>

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« Reply #3 on: Dec 14, 2007 at 11:30 »

Most yards or not, I am begining to dislike Fast Willie. A yard here a couple yards there, touch him and he's down. Take a look at how many TD's he has. I think it's 2.
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« Reply #4 on: Dec 14, 2007 at 11:46 »

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Most yards or not, I am begining to dislike Fast Willie. A yard here a couple yards there, touch him and he's down. Take a look at how many TD's he has. I think it's 2.
And 80% of that is a function of leaky line play.  And every guy on that line has gotten beat on running plays.  Even the might Faneca has allowed guys to get the inside route on him.  When Willie gets the ball, and is met imemdiately with someone who figured the right gap to shoot, over and over again, how is that Willie's fault?  If Willie get the handoff but the center gets bulled streight back into him and the DTs are there a half second later, what's he doing wrong?

Our pass protect is mostly decent.  Our run blocking is awful.  Just awful.  This is the worst run blocking I've seen from a Steeler line in a long, long time.  If we improved the IOL alone, I think we'd see a huge improvement on negative runs and short runs.  

Oddly, I think the OTs are where the pass pro needs upgraded.  So we're kinda sore all along that line.
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« Reply #5 on: Dec 14, 2007 at 12:54 »

I think it's almost a miracle that FWP is leading the league in rushing when he gets hit in the backfield 10 times a game.

As for TDs, I'd like to see us keep him in the game in the red zone, and possibly on 3rd down as well.  He's a better blocker than Dump or Davis, IMO.
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« Reply #6 on: Dec 14, 2007 at 13:11 »

Parker is a victim of the Bruce Arians offensive philosophy. Without the benefit of that lead-blocking fullback, Willie is getting hit, held up and taken down behind the line-of scrimmage on just about every play run out of the single-back set. I cringe every time I see that formation on 1st and 2nd down.

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As for TDs, I'd like to see us keep him in the game in the red zone, and possibly on 3rd down as well. He's a better blocker than Dump or Davis, IMO.
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« Reply #7 on: Dec 14, 2007 at 13:28 »

Regardless if it is FWP or the line, I'd rather have 3-4 yards per than 25 on 3rd and 2 then 0-1 for the next 10 carries.

Anyone see Ron Dayne last night.  We should have picked him up in the last coupla years.


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« Reply #8 on: Dec 14, 2007 at 13:46 »

Dayne wasn't fighting off 7 guys in the box, penetration at the LOS, and a lack of holes opened by the line.  Fuck, I coulda run for 100 yards with that line play.  Kubiak had that shit spread so wide it was like an otismalibu porno pussy.
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« Reply #9 on: Dec 14, 2007 at 14:17 »

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I think it's almost a miracle that FWP is leading the league in rushing when he gets hit in the backfield 10 times a game.
 
Yeah, but when you consider that he averages 4 to 6 more carries a game than every back in the league, it's not too surprising.

What really amazes me is that AP is averaging 6+ YPC.  That's sick.

Back to WP for a second, I don't know why, but I've got this sinking feeling that he's going to be kinda worn down come playoff time.  When speed is your biggest asset, that doesn't bode well.

*EDIT:  Just looked up his carries, he's probably going to carry it 350-375 times when the regular season is over.  Man, that's a boatload.
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« Reply #10 on: Dec 14, 2007 at 14:20 »

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Dayne wasn't fighting off 7 guys in the box, penetration at the LOS, and a lack of holes opened by the line.  Fuck, I coulda run for 100 yards with that line play.  Kubiak had that shit spread so wide it was like an otismalibu porno pussy.
Ron Dayne?  Who's he?  The name sounds kinda familiar, but I can't quite place it though.  Didn't he have a one hit wonder, "Tell it to my heart?"

Gee, running from a spread formation...another unique idea...
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« Reply #11 on: Dec 14, 2007 at 14:49 »

The offensive line is a problem -- a big problem. I concur that it's the worst run-blocking I've seen from a Steeler unit, maybe ever.

But I also think Willie has declined, or regressed, or something. Early last year, it seemed he was effective at little ducks and jukes running between the tackles, this year I don't see that at all -- I see him going down at first contact.

Maybe he's banged up -- he even seems slower to me.

He has shown progress as a blocking back, but I think zero progress as a receiver, where his speed would come in handy. He still can't fake out a guy in the open field to save his life. He can run past people, yes. Juke a guy squared up in front of him, no.

I think of him as a guy who would be best used splitting time with another back, so that he keeps his burst throughout the game, and throughout the year. I'm not one of those who thinks that the other back should be a big Bettis-type. And I'm not saying Willie's not effective being the only guy -- I just think he'd be more dangerous sharing the burden.  
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« Reply #12 on: Dec 14, 2007 at 15:21 »

Decent line play and Willie is destroying the league.  Decent line play and a man known best for busting a 75 yarder in the Super Bowl has at least 5 runs this year longer than 50yds.  I believe his long this year is 30yds?  Decent line play and FWP has 1 or 2 or more 200yd games this year.  The run blocking has been atrocious - and that starts with Faneca's declining agility, Mahan's underperformance, and the lack of a road-grating fullback.  

You want to complain about Willie, fine.  His hands aren't great, he'll cough the ball up, sometimes his footing/balance isn't great, sometimes he isn't patient enough.  But really I think we all know the decline in O-line play is the key key key.
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« Reply #13 on: Dec 14, 2007 at 15:33 »

In some of the draft talk, folks mention getting a RB.  I'm cool with Parker, and Dook for another year, Gary Russell as the new UDFA breakout, and... well, I don't much care for Davis as a lead blocker.  He either needs to bulk up, or be developed a la Haynes as a third down back.  FBs are cheap, lets get a new UDFA FB.

Improve both lines, this team becomes a SB contender again.
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