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« on: Dec 12, 2007 at 16:23 »

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/insider/news/story?id=3147842

I see ESPN.com ranked the top QB's in the league. Ben got a pretty decent ranking - 5th - pretty good for a game manager and system quarterback...haha He's finally getting the some of the respect he deserves. Although, he should be ranked ahead of romo. What has Romo done in his short career anyways? - thrown 5 picks on a monday night game when Big Ben has a super bowl ring. On a side note, it's nice to see Ben ranked above Palmer.
   
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« Reply #1 on: Dec 12, 2007 at 20:32 »

It's ashame Batch is so far down the list.  

I'd choose Batch over Kerry Collins and Trent Dilfer any day.
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« Reply #2 on: Dec 12, 2007 at 21:15 »

I guess when you're reduced to arguing where your backup should be ranked, you can't say too much about the list.  I can't argue much with their top 20.

Regarding Batch - Frerrotte?  Sage Rosenfels?  Kerry Collins? Greise?

Quinn and Russell are ranked ahead of him and they have yet to play a meaningful down in the NFL.

Batch should be in the mid 30's.
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« Reply #3 on: Dec 12, 2007 at 21:40 »

I still say Batch has could start for at least 5 teams in the NFL and be an improvement over what they have now.

Steelers are lucky to have him.  And he seems happy to be there.
 
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« Reply #4 on: Dec 12, 2007 at 22:58 »

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« Reply #5 on: Dec 13, 2007 at 07:17 »

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39. Billy Volek
Backup, San Diego Chargers
Volek has long been considered as one of the best backup signal-callers in the league. He has a solid arm with good instincts and the ability to read coverages. Volek has the tools to move an offense and may go down as one of the more talented backup QBs.

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« Reply #6 on: Dec 13, 2007 at 07:39 »

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39. Billy Volek
Backup, San Diego Chargers
Volek has long been considered as one of the best backup signal-callers in the league. He has a solid arm with good instincts and the ability to read coverages. Volek has the tools to move an offense and may go down as one of the more talented backup QBs.

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« Reply #7 on: Dec 13, 2007 at 10:04 »

Anybody see Volek last week against the TITans while Cutler was out?

Terrible.  You'd think he'd want to stick it to his former team.

Amazingly, I agree with the top 5 QBs.  McNabb is not a top 10 QB.  Jon Kitna should be much higher than 19th.
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« Reply #8 on: Dec 13, 2007 at 11:05 »

why is eli manning even on that list?  i should amend my top 5 hated and put him number 3 in front of the Lakers.  he's such a baby.  Give Big Ben the talent Brady has around him and he's number one.  

another thing, I hate the Cowboys as much as the next Steeler, maybe more, but everyone's giving Romo such a bad name where honestly, he's played well enough this year that no one talks about that fumbled field goal snap from last year.  Fuck that guy but he's playing pretty damn well unfortunately.
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« Reply #9 on: Dec 13, 2007 at 12:04 »

12. Derek Anderson
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Without a doubt, he has made a name for himself and a lot of money in the future based on his performance in offensive coordinator Rob Chudzinski's system since taking over as the starter in the second game of the season. Anderson has one of the stronger arms in the NFL, which has allowed the Browns to attack all levels in the passing game. He is a prototypical pocket passer with average to above-average accuracy in the short and intermediate areas in the passing game.


HarryAWay told me last week, he was a big fan of Derek Anderson.


Also Charlie Batch should be #24 on that list.  Much better than Deer-in-the-headlights Pennington.
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« Reply #10 on: Dec 13, 2007 at 13:43 »

Yeah, it actually seems to be a decently thought out ranking, and even their top 32 is pretty reasonable, IMO.  They do get extra credit for not drinking the Kool Aid regarding Eli Manning.  Here's a few additional comments:

I'll buy into their top 8 picks without comment.

With McNabb, you have to ask the question of whether they think that he's coming back at anything approaching full strength.  I hate watching the Eagles offense, but McNabb has always been effective in it, even when he had crud WR's.  I guess he's a top 10 in that WCO system, but wonder if he'd be even top 20 on any other team.

Garrard is given a top 10 ranking after 10 starts?  People tend to think that he's a young QB, but the guy's going to be 30 next year.  I suspect that Jeff Garcia or Phillip Rivers could have played the same 10 games with the same results and numbers.  And he didn't have a great year last year.  Anyway, I think he's closer to #13 or so until he gets a few more starts and a playoff game under his belt.

Ditto for Derek Anderson, may be a couple slots too high, for now.  Agree with the above comment questioning accuracy on the short throw.  That may a little overrated.

Right now, Phillip Rivers is way better than Vince Young, and Jon Kitna is better than Jason Campbell.  Those two should be ranked higher.  Same for Delhomme, if he comes back 100%.

McNair is physically done, and would be behind Culpepper and Boller if he were still active.  In this case, past performance does not apply.

Out of the rest, I'd say that they undervalued Feeley, Rosenfels, Batch, Collins, Gray, and Carr (he's not good, but better than #63).  They overvalued Quinn (no starts) and maybe Dilfer (physically declined this year).



 
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