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« on: Dec 16, 2007 at 23:59 »

OFFENSE

QB - Ben Roethlisberger is the franchise. He's also the reason why we have a winning record this season. Extend him -- NOW. Keep Charlie Batch around, and find a third-string QB who is not a Cowher disciple.

RB - Willie Parker is good, but he desperately needs to be spelled before we break him down. Get rid of Carey Davis. Keep Najeh Davenport as the third-string RB/special teams return guy. Draft a big, bruisng back.

WR - Either draft or sign a tall, big-play WR who can jump, and line him up opposite Santonio Holmes. Move Hines Ward to the slot. Keep Willie Reid and Nate Washington. Cut Cedrick Wilson.

TE - Heath Miller and Matt Spaeth are good. Cut Cowher disciple Jerame Tuman, and replace him with a cheap, free-agent TE.

T - Marvel Smith is gone. Give Max Starks a shot at LT, and draft a RT. Move Willie Colon to RG, but keep him as a backup RT. Cut Trai Essex, and sign a cheap, backup LT.

G - Alan Faneca is gone. Draft a LG to take his place, and use Chris Kemoeatu as the "official" backup LG. Start Willie Colon at RG, and sign a cheap, free-agent RG as a backup. Move Kendall Simmons to C.

C - Cut Sean Mahan. Start Kendall Simmons at C. Draft a backup C in the late rounds.

DEFENSE

NT - Get Casey Hampton to condition in the off-season to lose weight. Draft a DT on the first day of the draft if the plans call for a 4-3 defense. Keep Chris Hoke as a backup, and sign a cheap, free-agent DT if we switch to a 4-3.

DE - Draft a DE in the fourth round to back up Aaron Smith, and eventually take his place in the starting lineup. Get LaMarr Woodley to condition in the off-season to gain weight, and use him as our RDE. Bench Brett Keisel.

OLB - Clark Haggans is gone. Start Lawrence Timmons at LOLB, and sign a cheap, free-agent LOLB for depth. Keep James Harrison at ROLB, and draft a ROLB in the later rounds for depth.

ILB/MLB - Converting to a 4-3 simplifies everything. Cut Cowher disciple Clint Kriewladt, and start James Farrior. Draft a MLB on the first day to soon replace Farrior. If we stick with a 3-4, then draft new RILB, and sign a cheap, free-agent RILB for depth. Wait until 2009 to deal with James Farrior's replacement. Cut Larry Foote regardless.

CB - Keep Ike Taylor, but look for some depth behind him in free agency. Start William Gay instead of Bryant McFadden. Keep DeShea Townsend for depth.

S - Leave the safety roster unchanged, except try to figure out who should start at FS.

COACHING - Fire the offensive line and special teams coaches. Give Bruce Arians another chance, but shorten his leash. Put Dick LeBeau out to pasture.

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« Reply #1 on: Dec 17, 2007 at 01:23 »

RB- I don't resing Kreider and I keep Davis. FWP, Russell, Dookie, are the runners with maybe Haynes coming back, or another late round draft guy. Russell should get his chance, and Dookie's stats in short yardage situations are good enough.

WR- Its time for Wille Reid to float or sink. Wasn't this supposed to be his break out year?  Its a toss up between a guy who can't catch but has good size, and a guy who can catch but is a smurf. I go with the guy who can catch, and cut Nate. Holmes, Hines, Ced, Reid(if he can actually play) plus FA or draft guy.

TE- Spaeth can't block and hasn't done squat since September. Maybe his second year is better, but there is no depth behind Heat. Need to a sign a good blocking TE to help the OL and let Heat run patterns from the 2 TE set.

OL- World of shit here and if I had an answer I should be working for the Steelers. Draft Round 1 LT to immediately start, or sing a top tier FA for the position. Priority #1 is to protect the franchise's blindside. Move Smith into LG to help the rook. Assuming no C singings, Simmons gets a go there, with Max at RG and Colon at RT.

DL- Draft Round 2 DE to start the move to a 4-3, but can back up Smith or Keisel right now. It would be nice to be able to do what the almighty Pats can do, which is switch between the 3-4 and 4-3 depending on the team they are playing or even down and distance situations.

LB- Seeya Clark and Clint.  Plenty of options for whatever D they field. Got to keep Harrison, and maybe if Timmons can start, rest Silverback for situational pass rushing.

Secondary- Ironically it might be the strongest group on the team. Too bad about Clark because him and Troy make a good pairing. Unless something happens inside Smith's brain, he isn't the answer at FS. Surely they draft or sign a FA to bolster the safeties. Always need good corners and the Steelers might already have 4. I still like Ike, and Shea has been playing well. McFadden is also starting quality and Gay seems like he might be able to play. The group needs safety help though.

ST- Rossum may not fumble, but thats about all his upside is it seems. See comments above on Willie Reid.

Coaching- Seeya Bruce. You done fucked up. Seeya ST coach. Hire an OC who understands the strength's and more importantly, the weaknesses of the O. Not ready to say goodbye to Lebeau but it has to be looked at.
 
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« Reply #2 on: Dec 17, 2007 at 06:19 »

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OL- World of shit here and if I had an answer I should be working for the Steelers.
I feel equally despondent about this dillemma.  
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« Reply #3 on: Dec 17, 2007 at 08:01 »

QB - All set. Ben may be having the greatest season any QB has ever had, given the help he's got. Batch as a backup is fine. Consider taking a flier on a QB in the 4th or 5th round.

RB - I like Willie, but where is the "this is a two-back league" concept we heard Tomlin say all offseason? Would like another back but with Najeh and some young guys, this position is among the least of our problems.

FB - Bring back the I-formation and find another Kreider.

WR - Ward is slipping, and help may be needed urgently. Doesn't mean Ward doesn't have a role on this team for another couple of years -- but that role is money player on 3rd-and-6 over the middle. Holmes can flourish but needs another big-play threat before we see his full potential. Cut Nate Washington. Use Wilson more -- the guy is productive when given the chance. Let Willie Reid play in weeks 15 and 16 and see what he can do against terrible corners.

TE - Heath Miller should be catching 60 to 70 passes a year. I think Spaeth can develop. Find a 3rd guy, a blocking specialist, maybe a guy who can play FB too.

OL - Marvel Smith is finished, and stealing money from the Rooneys. Cut his ass. Draft an OT in the first round. Draft a LG in the 2nd round. Put Simmons at C, where I think he could be decent. Put Colon at RG. Re-sign Starks if possible and start him at RT. If we can't re-sign Starks fairly cheaply (which I doubt actually, since his size alone will attract some suitors) then we are truly screwed, and that statement alone tells you how impoverished we are at the line, when I'm hoping for a return of a guy who can't find a starting spot on this disaster.

DL - Draft a DE in round 3. If we're switching to a 4-3, make the switch quickly, this offseason. Hampton and Smith are keepers, Keisel is a waste of money, but maybe he'd be a decent 4-3 end.

LB - I think we're okay for a couple of years, given our 2007 draft. Farrior is still excellent, Foote is merely an average talent though a smart player. Haggans is gone, and he does a lot of unheralded dirty work, but Woodley should be a better playmaker at that spot. James Harrison is good for another year or two at a Pro Bowl level. Timmons looks to compete with Farrior or Foote for an inside position and I think he'll be pretty good. Time for Kriewaldt to begin his life's work.

DB - I hope Deshea can play until he's 40 because this team seems incapable of scouting and then coaching CBs. Ike Taylor is maddeningly inconsistent, but not outright terrible. McFadden, simply, must not be a very dedicated player, because he has slipped since '05. Gay looks promising. I like our safeties, and there's good depth there.

Special teams - Reed, Sepulveda, and the long-snapper are all very good. Our returners are terrible, except for Davenport on KR. Rossum would be considered a dismal failure on any team that didn't have an '06 like we did returning punts.

Coaching - Personally, I don't think Arians is the problem, though there are things I wish we'd do differently. I'm fine giving him another year. The Offensive Line coach has got to go, and the Special Teams coach has got to go.

Front Office - I think Colbert is overrated. Other than the first round, his drafts are terrible. I know the first round is important, but still, we can do better. Our depth blows, and that's on Colbert.

My offseason:

Free Agency:
1. Pass rusher, be it a DE or OLB
2. WR with some size and ability to get deep
3. Special teams specialist LB
4. Special teams specialist DB

Draft:
Rd. 1 ) OT
Rd. 2 ) OG
Rd. 3 ) DE
Rd. 4 ) TE/FB/H-back type of guy
Rd. 5 ) DT
Rd. 6 ) QB

Note: I don't think there's going to be that much available through free agency for offensive line help. The market for offensive linemen is insanely inflated, and I bet that even Max Starks will get a huge deal. Given that we have to re-sign Big Ben, I see us having to go to the draft for OL help.  
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« Reply #4 on: Dec 17, 2007 at 08:59 »

The answer to the position of FB/Bruising back/TE....someone who can run, catch, block, etc.....is Owen Schmidt.  We have too many other NEEDS (O&D Lines) to take him and I think he will be gone on day one.
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« Reply #5 on: Dec 17, 2007 at 11:05 »

As far as the O line goes, if they plan to contend in '08, they'll need to go out and spend big money on the best FA lineman available, CHEEP AZZ RODNEYS or not.  I'm sorry, if the Pats can address their biggest weakness by getting not one, not two, but THREE very good players to fill the need, it can be done.  Trade, signing, whatever - it can be done.  If they're content to wait until '09 or '10, then the draft alone will hopefully work.  Ideally, they'll do both.


Fix the Oline and D line.  Everything else will get better.
 
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« Reply #6 on: Dec 17, 2007 at 11:17 »

Per kffl...

Pos Player Name FA Status Previous Team Current Team
OT Stacy Andrews UFA Cincinnati Bengals  
OG Martin Bibla UFA Denver Broncos  
OT Wesley Britt RFA New England Patriots  
OG Elton Brown RFA Arizona Cardinals  
OG Jason Brown RFA Baltimore Ravens  
OG Ruben Brown UFA Chicago Bears  
OG Tyson Clabo UFA Atlanta Falcons  
OT Nat Dorsey UFA Cleveland Browns  
OT Trai Essex RFA Pittsburgh Steelers  
OG Alan Faneca UFA Pittsburgh Steelers  
OT Adam Goldberg UFA St. Louis Rams  
OG Montrae Holland UFA Denver Broncos  
OT Adrian Jones UFA New York Jets  
OG Chris Kemoeatu RFA Pittsburgh Steelers  
OG Ryan Lilja UFA Indianapolis Colts  
OG Chris Liwienski UFA Miami Dolphins  
OT Sean Locklear UFA Seattle Seahawks  
OT Daniel Loper RFA Tennessee Titans  
OG Evan Mathis RFA Carolina Panthers  
OG Seth McKinney UFA Cleveland Browns  
OG Chris Myers RFA Denver Broncos  
OT Mike Rosenthal UFA Miami Dolphins  
OT Jake Scott UFA Indianapolis Colts  
OG Justin Smiley UFA San Francisco 49ers  
OT Max Starks UFA Pittsburgh Steelers  
OT Todd Steussie UFA St. Louis Rams  
OT Chris Terry UFA Kansas City Chiefs  
OT Torrin Tucker UFA Tampa Bay Buccaneers  
OT Kyle Turley UFA Kansas City Chiefs  
OG Fred Weary UFA Houston Texans  
OT Travelle Wharton UFA Carolina Panthers  
OG Jason Whittle UFA Buffalo Bills  
OT Mike D. Williams UFA Jacksonville Jaguars  
OG Floyd Womack UFA Seattle Seahawks  

So, who do we pursue?
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« Reply #7 on: Dec 17, 2007 at 11:19 »

That list looks longer than it will come next FA period.

A lot of those guys will reup, I think.  
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« Reply #8 on: Dec 17, 2007 at 11:24 »

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« Reply #9 on: Dec 17, 2007 at 11:28 »

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So, who do we pursue?

I'll be honest, I don't know.  There may not be a franchise LT on that list; I'm not sure we have to have a Pace or Ogden in their prime.  We just need someone who can be dependable.  I want the Steelers to spend, but not stupid spend.
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