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« Reply #10 on: Dec 21, 2007 at 15:47 »

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just imagine how good he could be if he had an offensive line.


and I know he wants to be the good team player but maybe this season he shouldn't pay to send the O-line to Hawaii.  give em some tough love Ben.
Everyone thinks that Ben is bringing the O-line for purposes of a vacation.  It's really a business expense.  He really wants them to watch the game and visually what BBR looks like behind a good unit.  See the block, be the block, as it were.
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« Reply #11 on: Dec 22, 2007 at 10:24 »

Ben is hands down the MVP of this team this year.  Give him a pass-blocking offensive line, one more receiving threat, and a real third down/receiving back and he'd be unstoppable.
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« Reply #12 on: Dec 22, 2007 at 10:45 »

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Give him a pass-blocking offensive line, one more receiving threat, and a real third down/receiving back and he'd be unstoppable.
You might as well throw in the kitchen sink.

I actually think that getting Ben more "weapons"  is not a very high priority. Obviously OL is the top need, followed by DL and possibly safety.

Yeah, sure it would be nice to have 3 pro bowl receivers, but ask Indy about what that kind of offensive investment meant for their D. Ask the Pats about how they resign Moss and upgade their LB's and secondary.

Holmes is a star in the making and a certified "weapon". Hines Ward is a 1st down "weapon" , TD maker, and the best blocking "weapon" that plays WR. Heat is a monster in the middle and definately is a "weapon" in the RZ and pretty much everywhere else. FWP is a "weapon". Nate, in his second year of playing has 3 TD's in the last two games. Willie Reid is supposed to be a "weapon". I mean what else does he need as far as "weapons"? The guy has 32 TD's(passes) so far this year, and until recently had the league's leadng rusher in the backfield with him. The only "weapons" BR needs is a decent OL and an OC who doesn't underutilize the "weapons" he already has. Other than that, he already has a SB MVP receiver, a stud up and coming receiver, a stud RB, a stud TE, and good young talent in the pipeline( Nate, Reid, Russell).

The team needs to bolster the LOS units and worry less about getting more skill players, who can't do anything when Ben is on his back..
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« Reply #13 on: Dec 22, 2007 at 10:50 »

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Give him a pass-blocking offensive line, one more receiving threat, and a real third down/receiving back and he'd be unstoppable.
You might as well throw in the kitchen sink.

I actually think that getting Ben more "weapons"  is not a very high priority. Obviously OL is the top need, followed by DL and possibly safety.

Yeah, sure it would be nice to have 3 pro bowl receivers, but ask Indy about what that kind of offensive investment meant for their D. Ask the Pats about how they resign Moss and upgade their LB's and secondary.

Holmes is a star in the making and a certified "weapon". Hines Ward is a 1st down "weapon" , TD maker, and the best blocking "weapon" that plays WR. Heat is a monster in the middle and definately is a "weapon" in the RZ and pretty much everywhere else. FWP is a "weapon". Nate, in his second year of playing has 3 TD's in the last two games. Willie Reid is supposed to be a "weapon". I mean what else does he need as far as "weapons"? The guy has 32 TD's(passes) so far this year, and until recently had the league's leadng rusher in the backfield with him. The only "weapons" BR needs is a decent OL and an OC who doesn't underutilize the "weapons" he already has. Other than that, he already has a SB MVP receiver, a stud up and coming receiver, a stud RB, a stud TE, and good young talent in the pipeline( Nate, Reid, Russell).

The team needs to bolster the LOS units and worry less about getting more skill players, who can't do anything when Ben is on his back..
Well, said. He has plenty of options he just needs more time in the pocket (better OL) and a better playcalling and we'll be unstoppable.  
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« Reply #14 on: Dec 22, 2007 at 13:34 »

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Give him a pass-blocking offensive line, one more receiving threat, and a real third down/receiving back and he'd be unstoppable.
You might as well throw in the kitchen sink.

I actually think that getting Ben more "weapons"  is not a very high priority. Obviously OL is the top need, followed by DL and possibly safety.

Yeah, sure it would be nice to have 3 pro bowl receivers, but ask Indy about what that kind of offensive investment meant for their D. Ask the Pats about how they resign Moss and upgade their LB's and secondary.

Holmes is a star in the making and a certified "weapon". Hines Ward is a 1st down "weapon" , TD maker, and the best blocking "weapon" that plays WR. Heat is a monster in the middle and definately is a "weapon" in the RZ and pretty much everywhere else. FWP is a "weapon". Nate, in his second year of playing has 3 TD's in the last two games. Willie Reid is supposed to be a "weapon". I mean what else does he need as far as "weapons"? The guy has 32 TD's(passes) so far this year, and until recently had the league's leadng rusher in the backfield with him. The only "weapons" BR needs is a decent OL and an OC who doesn't underutilize the "weapons" he already has. Other than that, he already has a SB MVP receiver, a stud up and coming receiver, a stud RB, a stud TE, and good young talent in the pipeline( Nate, Reid, Russell).

The team needs to bolster the LOS units and worry less about getting more skill players, who can't do anything when Ben is on his back..
Yeah, what he said.
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« Reply #15 on: Dec 22, 2007 at 19:55 »

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just imagine how good he could be if he had an offensive line.


and I know he wants to be the good team player but maybe this season he shouldn't pay to send the O-line to Hawaii.
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« Reply #16 on: Dec 22, 2007 at 21:10 »

i agree..these last few games especially the OL has been nonexistant.  
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« Reply #17 on: Dec 23, 2007 at 01:27 »

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The only "weapons" BR needs is a decent OL and an OC who doesn't underutilize the "weapons" he already has.

No doubt.  Keep the guy healthy, on his feet, and give him some time, and the sky is the limit.  Even with an above-average receiving corps.
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« Reply #18 on: Dec 24, 2007 at 00:10 »

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Give him a pass-blocking offensive line, one more receiving threat, and a real third down/receiving back and he'd be unstoppable.
You might as well throw in the kitchen sink.

I actually think that getting Ben more "weapons"  is not a very high priority. Obviously OL is the top need, followed by DL and possibly safety.

Yeah, sure it would be nice to have 3 pro bowl receivers, but ask Indy about what that kind of offensive investment meant for their D. Ask the Pats about how they resign Moss and upgade their LB's and secondary.

Holmes is a star in the making and a certified "weapon". Hines Ward is a 1st down "weapon" , TD maker, and the best blocking "weapon" that plays WR. Heat is a monster in the middle and definately is a "weapon" in the RZ and pretty much everywhere else. FWP is a "weapon". Nate, in his second year of playing has 3 TD's in the last two games. Willie Reid is supposed to be a "weapon". I mean what else does he need as far as "weapons"? The guy has 32 TD's(passes) so far this year, and until recently had the league's leadng rusher in the backfield with him. The only "weapons" BR needs is a decent OL and an OC who doesn't underutilize the "weapons" he already has. Other than that, he already has a SB MVP receiver, a stud up and coming receiver, a stud RB, a stud TE, and good young talent in the pipeline( Nate, Reid, Russell).

The team needs to bolster the LOS units and worry less about getting more skill players, who can't do anything when Ben is on his back..
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« Reply #19 on: Dec 25, 2007 at 21:53 »

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Give him a pass-blocking offensive line, one more receiving threat, and a real third down/receiving back and he'd be unstoppable.
You might as well throw in the kitchen sink.

I actually think that getting Ben more "weapons"  is not a very high priority. Obviously OL is the top need, followed by DL and possibly safety.

Yeah, sure it would be nice to have 3 pro bowl receivers, but ask Indy about what that kind of offensive investment meant for their D. Ask the Pats about how they resign Moss and upgade their LB's and secondary.

Holmes is a star in the making and a certified "weapon". Hines Ward is a 1st down "weapon" , TD maker, and the best blocking "weapon" that plays WR. Heat is a monster in the middle and definately is a "weapon" in the RZ and pretty much everywhere else. FWP is a "weapon". Nate, in his second year of playing has 3 TD's in the last two games. Willie Reid is supposed to be a "weapon". I mean what else does he need as far as "weapons"? The guy has 32 TD's(passes) so far this year, and until recently had the league's leadng rusher in the backfield with him. The only "weapons" BR needs is a decent OL and an OC who doesn't underutilize the "weapons" he already has. Other than that, he already has a SB MVP receiver, a stud up and coming receiver, a stud RB, a stud TE, and good young talent in the pipeline( Nate, Reid, Russell).

The team needs to bolster the LOS units and worry less about getting more skill players, who can't do anything when Ben is on his back..
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