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« on: Jan 10, 2008 at 12:04 »

Will be back...

I know most folks thought the OC should go, but I don't think it was a surprise Tomlin kept him.  I am surprised that he kept the OL and ST coaches, though.  Thought at least Ligashesky would be gone.

Did Tomlin use my own consistency argument against myself, LOL?
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« Reply #1 on: Jan 10, 2008 at 13:56 »

Zeirlein should have gone, if only because of the porno incident.

It's not like he redeemed himself with "coaching up" the dolts on the line.
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« Reply #2 on: Jan 10, 2008 at 14:20 »

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Can't fire their porn connection guy.  He comes through in the clutch.

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« Reply #3 on: Jan 10, 2008 at 17:39 »

The statement quoted in that article doesn't mean a thing to me. Fuckin' Trib, man.

What was Tomlin supposed to say? "I don't have any replacements lined up but I plan on terminating Zeirlein and Ligashesky in the coming days"? Cmon.

Secondly he only said it was his intent to retain all the coaches. He went on to say something like "things can happen in this league and we all realize the possibilities". Which is every bit as telling as the statement the amateurs at that paper picked out and tried to make a story of.

Coaches move. Staffs get shuffled. People come available. If someone else better comes along I have doubt Tomlin hesitates to make a move because he is beholden to this statement.

And I say Ligashesky absolutely HAS to go.
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« Reply #4 on: Jan 10, 2008 at 18:11 »

Grrrrrrrrr..........

Tomlin in his PC seems to think, if I'm reading the tea leaves right, that the ST and OL problems are personnel related.  

Don't like to wish any coach a job loss, but for one, I'm not buying the ST argument.  Chidi could have been signed a couple of times in 2007 and Marquis Cooper is allegedly a ST stud.  Ike Taylor was on the field for the Jones-Drew kick return, so they were using starters in the Jax game.  Najeh and Carey frickin' Davis were in position for tackles as much as anyone, which ain't necessarily good.  Too many PR's were getting free looks after the catch with no gunners in sight.  Crap, even Troy (Sideline) Edwards could get in front of the return man.  That can't be all personnel related.  I'd love to hear the coach's debriefings on this.

I will buy the argument, in part, with the O-line, only because despite his comments on participation, Tomlin probably does not have final say in who was drafted.  With Mahan sucking eggs this year and Marvel not in good shape, the OL was going to be a problem no matter who was coaching.  Simmons' play sealed that deal.  I openly argued that Colon should start at RG (agree with Ed's article there) and Starks at RT, but that would have left only one OT backup (Essex) at game time and potential OL rotation problems.  At the end of it, of course, they only had who was left anyway, including three centers.  Tomlin obviously sees the problem and has gotta know that if it doesn't get it fixed in 2008, the Steelers will not run effectively, and his QB will be punished and PO'd.

For one, I'm hoping that Stapleton can add 15#-20# of beef and compete for the OC job.  He actually looked good in preseason last year, but has no chance as an 280-285# OC.
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« Reply #5 on: Jan 10, 2008 at 18:25 »

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Ike Taylor was on the field for the Jones-Drew kick return, so they were using starters in the Jax game. Najeh and Carey frickin' Davis were in position for tackles as much as anyone, which ain't necessarily good. Too many PR's were getting free looks after the catch with no gunners in sight. Crap, even Troy (Sideline) Edwards could get in front of the return man. That can't be all personnel related. I'd love to hear the coach's debriefings on this.


Russell gets pancaked as Drew is running past him. The Jags had a beautifully effective double-team on Arnold Harrison. Dre Frazier tried to run around his blocker and got out of his lane. That opened things up huge. Reed got ran over by the ballcarrier and he didn't break stride. McFadden got juked badly at the end. And Ike was in and out of the picture so it's hard to describe what the fuck he tried to do.

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