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« on: May 05, 2008 at 12:07 »

Timmons challenges Foote

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Competition began on the field this weekend at inside linebacker, where 2007 first-round draft pick Lawrence Timmons is trying to wrest the starting job away from Larry Foote, who has held it the past four seasons.

"That potentially could be intense because Lawrence has put himself in position to compete," Tomlin said.

"It's been a good weekend for him, it's the difference between night and day between what he showed us this weekend and what he showed us last year. The pedigree is still there, we're excited about what he brings to the table.

"He's a talented guy capable of doing a lot of things. He's a big guy, he has great quick-twitch, he's powerful. He's going to be able to do some things for us in coverage, he's going to be able to do some things for us in terms of applying pressure on the quarterback. But his deeds on the field are going to kind of sketch out his role. ... The potential is impressive but he has to do the work."

 
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« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2008 at 12:20 »

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quick-twitch

What is that?  And why is it suddenly the catch-phrase for describing players?

In non-football-related commentary, as a soon-to-be middle-aged man, the term "quick-twitch" kind of scares me.  Seems to have profoundly negative implications.
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« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2008 at 12:45 »

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What is that?  And why is it suddenly the catch-phrase for describing players?

In non-football-related commentary, as a soon-to-be middle-aged man, the term "quick-twitch" kind of scares me.  Seems to have profoundly negative implications.
I believe it has to do with some facial tic that throws off opposing players.  Look, dude's twitchin' out...

What I find interesting is that "quick-twitch" is one of those words that used to modify another word (like "reflexes"), but now the former adjective is a noun, as if "reflexes" were implied.  He's a big guy, he has great quick-twitch, he's powerful.  Tomlin tends to have words or phrases that subsume bulkier versions.  First it was "chunks" for "chunks of yardage," now it's "quick-twitch."
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« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2008 at 17:41 »

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quick-twitch

What is that?  And why is it suddenly the catch-phrase for describing players?

In non-football-related commentary, as a soon-to-be middle-aged man, the term "quick-twitch" kind of scares me.  Seems to have profoundly negative implications.
I believe it has to do with some facial tic that throws off opposing players.  Look, dude's twitchin' out...

What I find interesting is that "quick-twitch" is one of those words that used to modify another word (like "reflexes"), but now the former adjective is a noun, as if "reflexes" were implied.  He's a big guy, he has great quick-twitch, he's powerful.  Tomlin tends to have words or phrases that subsume bulkier versions.  First it was "chunks" for "chunks of yardage," now it's "quick-twitch."
Using "chunks" to describe yardage is much preferable to using "chunks" to describe actual chunks.

Eeeeewwww.  :puke:  
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« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2008 at 18:47 »

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What is that?  And why is it suddenly the catch-phrase for describing players?

In non-football-related commentary, as a soon-to-be middle-aged man, the term "quick-twitch" kind of scares me.  Seems to have profoundly negative implications.
Human skeletal muscle is either fast twitch or slow twitch.

Fast twitch is further sub-divided into two groups.  Basically it's your quick burst type of movements.

And this being the NFL it can't just be fast.  It's gotta be quick  :ph43r:  
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« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2008 at 19:01 »

Read a item that Timmons was covering a WR downfield (Holmes?), and showed excellent speed.  I think that's going to be a huge asset.
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« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2008 at 20:19 »

Timmons covered a lot of times in the dime defense in the second half of the year.
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« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2008 at 21:57 »

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quick-twitch

What is that?  And why is it suddenly the catch-phrase for describing players?

In non-football-related commentary, as a soon-to-be middle-aged man, the term "quick-twitch" kind of scares me.  Seems to have profoundly negative implications.
I believe it has to do with some facial tic that throws off opposing players.  Look, dude's twitchin' out...

What I find interesting is that "quick-twitch" is one of those words that used to modify another word (like "reflexes"), but now the former adjective is a noun, as if "reflexes" were implied.  He's a big guy, he has great quick-twitch, he's powerful.  Tomlin tends to have words or phrases that subsume bulkier versions.  First it was "chunks" for "chunks of yardage," now it's "quick-twitch."
Using "chunks" to describe yardage is much preferable to using "chunks" to describe actual chunks.

Eeeeewwww.  :puke:
Leigh just blew some chunks. :unsure:

:doubleentendre:
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« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2008 at 10:12 »

So this morning on my way to work I donated to USA Today for the football preseason edition paper.

In reading through the Steeler section, I see where it talks about Woodley potentially starting at OLB.......but makes NO MENTION of Timmons as either a starter OR backup on the depth chart.

Also of note................. .............Had us listed as Preseason Power Ranking of 11 and earning a Wild Card spot with the clowns winning the North.  

Noted question marks about the O-Line.

Had RB Depth as being FWP, the rook (for goal line situaitons), and M Moore as 3rd down back.

Questioned the secondary (specifically both Safety spots.....will Clark be healthy, how bad does Smith really suck, Mundy having a shot, and Polomalu's health / injury history)

only skimmed the page, but this is what I caught........
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« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2008 at 10:45 »

I don't think the Clowns will move forward this season. I think, with the schedule, and expectations, they fold like a cheap suit. QB controversy by the middle of the season. Of course the Steelers have virtually the same schedule. I see 9-7 winning the division. with no wild card coming out of it.

Timmons will get on the field more this season, but will most likely supplant Farrior in 2009. No reason why Woodley shouldn't be the starter in 2008. I think, based on what you wrote, the article is fair about the safety situation. Could be a problem. Mundy will be good, but it is tough for a rook to be successful at FS, especially as active as Troy is, it takes a lot of discipline. As Smith displayed last season.....Not very well. I think though Smith will improve this season.

The OL, well, those concerns have been well documented by all of us. I suppose we are going to have to hope the coaches know what they are doing. SINGING Hartwig will be a big boost at the center spot, IMO. That itself may be more of a galvanizing force for a good line...Hope so.

In the end, I think the Steelers win the AFC North @ 9-7. IF they go 11-5 or better, with that schedule, then legitimate Super Bowl contenders they will be.
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« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2008 at 10:57 »

We'll just have to see about Timmons and the SS position as well.  Who knows what we have there?  I'm slightly more concerned about the DL than LBs at this point.  The safties are what they are - hopefully Clark makes it back, but if not, Smith can be coached up ... right?  He can, right?  RIGHT!?

As for the Brownstains winning the AFCN.  Hah.  HAH!  Vin may be right with the 9-7 record winning the division.  That wouldn't be a huge suprise.  I'm hoping for better though.  Sure, it's a tough schedule but damn, shouldn't the Steelers be improved with a year of the new regime under their collective belts?  Yes.
 
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« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2008 at 14:00 »

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I don't think the Clowns will move forward this season. I think, with the schedule, and expectations, they fold like a cheap suit.
Do cheap ones really fold any easier than expensive ones?  Have studies been done?  What's the sample size?  I think they're gettin' a bad rap.  While they cost significantly less, I highly doubt they fold any easier than a custom made Armani or Boss suit.

Much like Cincy found out a couple years ago, there's a big difference...a big difference between being a team that nobody expects to succeed and a team that everybody expects to succeed.  It's not easy to move from the former to the latter.  It usually takes a few years to shake off that losing mentality and in a lot of cases they regress after some initial, "out of left field" kind of success before they take that next step.

"Everybody" thinks that Cleveland and Pittsburgh will contend for the North title, but it wouldn't really surprise me to see them fall back a little and finish in the 6-10 range.
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« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2008 at 07:06 »

The biggest thing that Cleveland has going for them, IMO, is their Oline.  They are very good up front, and that covers a lot of weaknesses.  Whereas we are not very good, but Ben and FWP cover for that.

Still, I have a hard time believing that they are as improved as everyone thinks.  That defense was nothing special last year, and I don't know that I'm buying into Derek Anderson for the long haul.  We, and Cincy, made him look very pedestrian in the latter half of last season.

And if Cincy makes you look bad, then you might have some issues.

So, all in all, I think we have a good chance to win the division.  But we'll have to make some serious strides to put a major dent in our schedule.
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« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2008 at 07:23 »

Back to my original posting in here, I reread the projected depth chart from my rag by USA Today and saw that Timmons is listed.....as a MLB backup to Foote

I think our division will finish Steelers, Cincy, Clev, Balt.  I have no reason, support, or anything..just going with it
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« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2008 at 11:03 »

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Do cheap ones really fold any easier than expensive ones?  Have studies been done?  What's the sample size?  I think they're gettin' a bad rap.  While they cost significantly less, I highly doubt they fold any easier than a custom made Armani or Boss suit.
 
In any case, you don't fold your suits.  You hang them.  Although, all you cheap-ass-clothes wearing mfers wouldn't know about that anyway.  Boss?  AJ, join the new millenium.

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It usually takes a few years to shake off that losing mentality

If you're the Browns, it takes half a century.

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« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2008 at 19:01 »

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quick-twitch

What is that?  And why is it suddenly the catch-phrase for describing players?

In non-football-related commentary, as a soon-to-be middle-aged man, the term "quick-twitch" kind of scares me.  Seems to have profoundly negative implications.
I believe it has to do with some facial tic that throws off opposing players.  Look, dude's twitchin' out...

What I find interesting is that "quick-twitch" is one of those words that used to modify another word (like "reflexes"), but now the former adjective is a noun, as if "reflexes" were implied.  He's a big guy, he has great quick-twitch, he's powerful.  Tomlin tends to have words or phrases that subsume bulkier versions.  First it was "chunks" for "chunks of yardage," now it's "quick-twitch."
Using "chunks" to describe yardage is much preferable to using "chunks" to describe actual chunks.

Eeeeewwww.  :puke:
Leigh just blew some chunks. :unsure:

:doubleentendre:
Now, I've blown a lot of things in my day, but I haven't blown any chunks recently.

The Browns, however, have always blown.
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« Reply #16 on: May 15, 2008 at 20:27 »

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Although, all you cheap-ass-clothes wearing mfers wouldn't know about that anyway.

Racist!

Back to Timmons, FSU players only wear the finest.

:Dillards:

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fanprice, where PHILADELPHIA fans set the price for tickets!!!!

Fuck that. Fuck Rendell. Fuck Rocky Balboa. Fuck <RASIST> McNabb Haters. Fuck the Flyers and Fuck Philly. Bishes.

My price is I'll give ya 37 American to kill yourself, Philly fans.
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« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2008 at 11:51 »

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Although, all you cheap-ass-clothes wearing mfers wouldn't know about that anyway.

Racist!

Back to Timmons, FSU players only wear the finest.

:Dillards:

:FootLocker:

And now's about time for my latest ad rant...

fanprice, where PHILADELPHIA fans set the price for tickets!!!!

Fuck that. Fuck Rendell. Fuck Rocky Balboa. Fuck <RASIST> McNabb Haters. Fuck the Flyers and Fuck Philly. Bishes.

My price is I'll give ya 37 American to kill yourself, Philly fans.
With Firefox and AdBlock Plus extension....No ads. So no anger at see other teams promoted here.
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« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2008 at 15:11 »

Just thought I'd throw this out there. I was listening to the Tim Benz morning show on WXDX and he said that he went over to the Steelers training facility yesterday to watch some of the OTA. Timmons was running with the first team "D" and looked absolutely lost. He said all he heard was "LT over here", "LT move over there" the entire time.

It doesn't sound like he's picking things up too quickly.
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