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« on: Nov 07, 2008 at 15:38 »

http://www.postgazette.com/pg/08312/926220-100.stm
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« Reply #1 on: Nov 07, 2008 at 15:41 »

Talk about your redistribution of wealth...

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« Reply #2 on: Nov 07, 2008 at 15:59 »

That's bullshit.  They didn't even get the benefit of the fumble 'cause the ref blew the whistle so damn fast.  Maybe the NFL should stop keeping a stat for sacks.
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« Reply #3 on: Nov 07, 2008 at 16:02 »

This is effing crazy! Are you serious? He made a freaking tackle. Why are these players getting fined for things that didn't even get flagged? That fuck Goodell was at the game too. Troy is sounding spot on. A lot of old school players couldn't afford to play in this league.
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« Reply #4 on: Nov 07, 2008 at 16:21 »

This shit is going to lead to players really letting up and not completely securing QBs (especially bigger and stronger ones) and turning plays that should be sacks into scrambles and 50 yard bombs.

This league hates defense. They want every game to be 42-35.
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« Reply #5 on: Nov 07, 2008 at 17:34 »

It's official, NFL football is turning into European soccer. 
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« Reply #6 on: Nov 07, 2008 at 19:26 »

It's official, NFL football is turning into European soccer. 

Whoa.  Easy there.

As to the prevalency of fines, I...I...don't know what to say.  The Tuck fine.  This Woodley fine.  Pretty much all of Hines' fines.  There are others that I can't think of right now.  It's really out of control.  It used to be players were occasionally fined.  Now, there are multiple "infractions" every week.  It's nuts.  Someone's petty cash stash is obviously running low.  That, or someone's got a nasty drug habit they need to fund.
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« Reply #7 on: Nov 07, 2008 at 21:58 »

Whoa.  Easy there.

If they keep dishing out fines for ummm.....tackling the QB, it's going to get to that point.

I've seen enough to convince me.
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« Reply #8 on: Nov 08, 2008 at 00:45 »

This shit is going to lead to players really letting up and not completely securing QBs (especially bigger and stronger ones) and turning plays that should be sacks into scrambles and 50 yard bombs.

This league hates defense. They want every game to be 42-35.

Campbell is 6'5" 233, they do not get any bigger.  I'm not sure what the league expects the guy to do? 

I guess Woodley was suppose to gently lay him down on the field, place a pillow under his head and tell him everything is going to be fine.

It's becoming a joke.
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« Reply #9 on: Nov 08, 2008 at 09:33 »

It's official, NFL football is turning into European soccer. 

Not sure what you mean here... Soccer is much more physical than the technical rules allow, not less physical. Especially European football.
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« Reply #10 on: Nov 08, 2008 at 11:26 »

It's official, NFL football is turning into European soccer. 

Not sure what you mean here... Soccer is much more physical than the technical rules allow, not less physical. Especially European football.

I'll give bonzr the benefit of the doubt here, and assume he means diving will soon become a feature of NFL QB play.  The league is asking for it.
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« Reply #11 on: Nov 08, 2008 at 12:26 »

It's official, NFL football is turning into European soccer. 

Not sure what you mean here... Soccer is much more physical than the technical rules allow, not less physical. Especially European football.
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« Reply #12 on: Nov 08, 2008 at 12:29 »

Ya, the diving in soccer kills me. Have seen a couple of yellows for simulating recently though...Lets hope QB's don't start making hits and tackles look worse than they are.
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« Reply #13 on: Nov 08, 2008 at 12:34 »

I hear ya Steel-43. There is something fundamentally wrong with what Goodell is trying to do here. It is a collision sport, as Mike says.

Always hated how punters try to get the roughing the kicker penalties by exaggerating any contact....effing kickers...
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« Reply #14 on: Nov 08, 2008 at 13:02 »

I hear ya Steel-43. There is something fundamentally wrong with what Goodell is trying to do here. It is a collision sport, as Mike says.

Always hated how punters try to get the roughing the kicker penalties by exaggerating any contact....effing kickers...

I'm all for protecting the QB's head and knees and players in general, but this is going overboard. 

When you are not permitted to wrap up a QB (a 6'5" 233 one at that) and bring him to the ground, there is something definately wrong with the sport.  When you are not permitted to lay out a beautiful block for a HB, TE or WR, something is wrong.  The NFL makes money off the "The NFL's Hardest Hits" DVD's, yet they turn around and fine the guys who are doing the hitting.

We are at the point now, where Goodell doesn't even know why in the hell he's fining guys anymore....

NFL rescinding $7,500 fine to Giants star DE Justin Tuck
by Paul Needell/The Star-Ledger
Friday November 07, 2008, 7:54 PM

Upon further review, The Star-Ledger has learned Tuck need not appeal the fine he was slapped with for the personal foul called on him for leveling Cowboys QB Brooks Bollinger last Sunday. Ray Anderson, the NFL's executive VP of football operations, will be informing Tuck of this some time tonight.

According to a high-ranking league official, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell had not even seen the play until today. He immediately told Anderson the fine was too harsh. Giants coach Tom Coughlin has defended Tuck throughout the week so both he and his best defensive player should feel quite vindicated.

And Giants fans can stop complaining to any media outlet that will listen.

Was the roughing the passer penalty unwarranted as well?

"The officials are instructed to err on the side of safety," the NFL official said. "Therefore, we support the call on the field. However, as you know, most penalties do not require a fine. A fine was not justified."
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« Reply #15 on: Nov 08, 2008 at 13:27 »

What is the process for getting rid of a commish?  Can he be fired?  To what extent is the decision that of the owners and to what extent does the player's union have a say?  If I'm on the union side going into the next round of negotiations, this issue is on the front page.  This guy is flat outta control.
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« Reply #16 on: Nov 08, 2008 at 13:49 »

Good question.  I think it's up to the owners to fire the commish so don't hold your breath.  Seems like the Rooney's like and maybe even lobbied for the guy.
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« Reply #17 on: Nov 08, 2008 at 14:02 »

Seems like the Rooney's like and maybe even lobbied for the guy.


That's an understatement....

"NFL owners should begin working on a contract extension for Commissioner Roger Goodell, Pittsburgh Steelers owner Dan Rooney said yesterday.

Goodell signed a five-year contract when he was elected by the owners in August 2006 to succeed Paul Tagliabue. The owners seem pleased with his performance.

Rooney said a contract extension is merited but has not been officially discussed among the owners yet.

"There has not been talk about that yet," Rooney said in a telephone interview. "But I've thought about it, and I think it's time to start talking about it. I think he's done a wonderful job."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/21/AR2008102102479.html

And yes, it is up to the owners to give him the boot.  Hell, as long as they are not paying the fines and the players are, why would they boot him?  He's protecting their investments.


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« Reply #18 on: Nov 08, 2008 at 14:24 »

Well there you go.  Guess the old noggin still has a few operational cells after all.

And yes, it is up to the owners to give him the boot.  Hell, as long as they are not paying the fines and the players are, why would they boot him?  He's protecting their investments.

True dat. 

Somebody else is gonna have to get the FireRogerGoodell! site going.

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« Reply #19 on: Nov 08, 2008 at 14:34 »

I remember seeing on one of the stories about the Tuck fine being rescinded that Gene Washington is actually the NFL guy that is deciding on the fines. Goodell isn't in the loop unless someone protests.
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« Reply #20 on: Nov 08, 2008 at 16:24 »

What is most troubling to me is that Woodley was fined the same amount as John Henderson, who tried to rip the face off of a Bengals' OL and was ejected from the game. 

Woodley did what he was suppossed to.  Henderson broke the rules and was ejected.  Same $ for the fine. 

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