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Author Topic: Worthy of it's own thread - Welker hit  (Read 2638 times)
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« Reply #10 on: Dec 01, 2008 at 23:55 »

freakin loved the hit.  As soon as that hit happened i didnt care about that it extended their drive a little longer until another TO.  I thought back to last year and how smug that entire team was when we played them.  Brady gettin in the face of A. Smith after they had just scored.  all that bullshit of cheating the steelers from at least 2 more Super Bowls came full circle on that lone hit to a little fucking midget.  Belly "i wont comment on the hit" cheek, taking exception to the hit.  l-o-v-e-d it all!

even taylor's unsportsmanlike gave me a chuckle watching the chimp on the sidelines grasping for any amount of respect after his teams beatdown, by springing to life to point out the fact someone tossed a football at his player. boo fuckin hoo.

it must be something about a turd of a player getting jacked up that makes me all warm and fuzzy inside.  I cant recall who jacked up "icecube" mcneil of the browns many moons ago, but this one was wayyyyyy better.

the steelers are feared!

and who gives a flying fudge what the perception of the steelers are.  we are badazz and thats all that matters
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« Reply #11 on: Dec 02, 2008 at 06:38 »

I just love the fact that a team of cocky punks got their butts handed to them and then whined all the way to the end because they didn't like it.  Most "bullies" (as they clearly were last year--running up scores, copyrighting 19-0, etc) don't like it when someone comes back and hits them in the mouth.  They usually cover up in the corner during the beatdown or run around crying. 

Clearly, the Patriots did the latter.  And it was absolutely hysterical.
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« Reply #12 on: Dec 02, 2008 at 14:53 »

And now the always expected bitching and crying from Boston....

Talk is cheap

Nose tackle Vince Wilfork said on WEEI radio yesterday that leading up to Sunday's game against Pittsburgh, the Patriots saw on film Steelers safety Ryan Clark deliver blows like the one he used to level Wes Welker.

Clark blasted Welker over the middle, leaving his feet to deliver a shoulder to the head, after a Matt Cassel pass had been tipped well out of Welker's reach. Welker left the game with 2:03 left in the third quarter and did not return. Clark was penalized for unnecessary roughness.

"Of course it was a cheap one," Wilfork told the radio station during his contractually obligated appearance. "We've seen it on film all year. He's nothing special. He's nothing special. He deserved that penalty. There are a lot of times they take shots, unnecessary shots on guys.

"If you're going to sit me down and send me to the commissioner's office for me playing in between the whistles you need to sit this guy down. The same thing I got punished for is the same thing he did.

"I've been fined. I've talked to the commissioner about my play. That was unnecessary. We've seen it all the time, leading up to this game; this guy taking shots when nobody is looking, or when it's out of the play, he's taking shots."
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« Reply #13 on: Dec 02, 2008 at 15:00 »

ROFLMAO...what a bunch of whiny little punks!!!  My 9 year old daughter is less whiny than that guy.
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« Reply #14 on: Dec 02, 2008 at 18:14 »

little pissant weasel

I've been looking for a good description on him.  That's the best!
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« Reply #15 on: Dec 02, 2008 at 19:21 »

i love the replay of that hit....welker hitting the ground in a pike diver position, completlely ratteled...hate that mf making a living off those little 5 yard slants....no matter penalty or not, that hit tells the league to not f#$k with us, the middle is a place we will take care of...i was in amsterdam watching the game, only steeler fan and i was freaking out, that 2nd half was sick, no one can stop harrison held on every play.  i was in my own personal red light district i swear i kept it in my pants...
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« Reply #16 on: Dec 02, 2008 at 19:51 »

"unnecessary hit on a defensive receiver".....GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK

next thing you know is...."unnecessary interception" or "defensive line interference"
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« Reply #17 on: Dec 03, 2008 at 06:00 »

NFL defends Wes Welker hit
Blow to Welker legal, part of game
By Ron Borges | Wednesday, December 3, 2008 | http://www.bostonherald.com |

It looked bad and surely it felt worse, but Ryan Clark's explosive hit on Wes Welker on Sunday was neither illegal nor unnecessary. It was a consequence of what pro football is and what Welker has done to opposing teams the past few seasons. Most importantly, it was within the rules.

When the Steelers free safety all but split the tiny wide receiver in half as he ran across the face of Pittsburgh's defense, it felt like you could hear the collision in the stands. It looked even worse on television as a slowing Welker was leveled by a speeding bullet who threw his shoulder into the receiver's body as Matt Cassel's errant pass twisted in the air behind him.

It was gruesome, yet Patriots [team stats] fans and radio talk show hosts who chattered on about how Clark "launched himself" at Welker, leaving his feet and throwing his shoulder illegally, are wrong. They, like Donovan McNabb, do not know the rules.

"A lot of people think it's a foul to leave your feet," NFL vice president of officiating Mike Pereira said yesterday from New York. "Launching is not a foul. There is nothing in the rulebook that states that at all. It's a misconception people have.

"It is a foul to hit with your helmet against a defenseless receiver. It is a foul to throw a forearm into the neck or head area of your opponent. I don't think either of those things happened. I'm not a fan of those high hits but if you do it with your shoulder you're OK."

Next we come to the fact the ball still was live. It had not hit the ground and it still was in front of Clark. In fact, a teammate to his left, had he reacted quicker, might have intercepted it.

As for Welker being defenseless, he was running across the defense in Clark's direction. If he didn't see him it was because he wasn't looking, and if he wasn't looking it was because he was looking back for the football. What he was doing was slowing up in the middle of a highway, a decision that defies common sense and is one he is not likely to repeat.

As to the hit itself, Pereira was clear (as was the video) Clark made sure to stay within the rules.

"He does actually lead with the shoulder on a high hit up in the area of the neck, but he left the helmet out of the contact," Pereira said. "When you look at it and slow it down it probably was not an illegal hit. You might have to factor in that it was deflected early and does that make it become late. But the actual hit itself is probably OK."

Immediately after the game Clark was unapologetic beyond his concern for Welker's health, saying he believed he had done nothing wrong, which he hadn't. Rodney Harrison [stats] makes the same hit on Marvin Harrison, everyone from Portland to Providence is crowing, "That's Patriot football!" Let the collision be in the other direction and it is dirty football.

No, it was not. It was hardnosed football. It was Steelers football dating back to the 1970s and a safety named Donnie Shell, who had the right name there. When Clark took off like a bullet, at a receiver who has been tormenting safeties like him for two years on just such shallow routes, what he saw was an open receiver and a pass in the air.

As he closed, he purposely turned his head away from making contact with Welker's head and delivered a thunderous blow. Welcome to the NFL.

Clark reminded us that this time a year ago he was in a hospital bed after having had first his spleen and then his gall bladder removed a few weeks after playing in Denver. Clark underwent two serious surgeries and lost a goodly amount of weight off his 5-foot-11, 205-pound frame.

"I was lying in a hospital last year," Clark pointed out. "I'm not trying to hurt anybody. It was not like I was trying to be cheap. Anybody that comes across (the middle) it's my job to tackle them. If I don't do my job I'm going to be out there having to find another way to take care of my family and pay my bills. The ball got tipped but the official said I should not have left my feet."

If that was the call it was incorrect, Pereira points out. Yet even at that, Pereira was not opposed to a mistaken flag being thrown because of the shocking nature of the collision and the need to protect players from the game's obvious violence.

"The actual hit itself is probably OK but the officials are told to err on the side of safety," Pereira said. "That was a tough call to make in real time but we want to lean toward safety. The rule clearly states if you don't lead with your helmet it's not a foul, but we threw the flag and I'm happy we did because I think we need to do it when in real time it looks so tough. It looked like a decleater type hit."

But it wasn't.
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« Reply #18 on: Dec 03, 2008 at 07:18 »

In some corner of hell it is snowing.  The NFL and a Boston paper defending the Steelers?  I suggest that everyone start repenting because this must be the end of days...

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« Reply #19 on: Dec 03, 2008 at 07:31 »

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"The actual hit itself is probably OK but the officials are told to err on the side of safety," Pereira said. "That was a tough call to make in real time but we want to lean toward safety. The rule clearly states if you don't lead with your helmet it's not a foul, but we threw the flag and I'm happy we did because I think we need to do it when in real time it looks so tough. It looked like a decleater type hit."

So...as long as it is a call for "safety" reasons, it's okay to get the call WRONG???  What in the world is that???

Since when did it become acceptable for an official to make the WRONG call as long as it is to "err on the side of safety?" 

Let me tell you Mike:  You may not have a problem with it, but I have a serious problem with it.  The goal should be to get the call CORRECT!  That is your job.  If you want to be a babysitter, then go down to the local Girl Scout chapter and get your badge and trek on out to the 'burbs with some nicely-printed flyers.  Your job is to get the call RIGHT, and not to "err" at all if possible.
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