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« on: Dec 02, 2008 at 22:18 »

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« Reply #1 on: Dec 03, 2008 at 08:05 »

That's crazy.  Obviously there's a much higher standard in the NHL for that type of thing.  Although, admittedly, I can't recall any other player publicly talking about his sloppy seconds.
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« Reply #2 on: Dec 03, 2008 at 09:41 »

And in the NFL we have Pacman Jones back in the NFL, Plaxico Burress shooting himself, Chris Henry back on the field again and players getting arrested and then slapped on the wrist for spousal abuse on a yearly basis. Nevermind the amount of drug related arrests.

Sean Avery looks like an angel compared to these guys. I can understand a fine from the organization because he is kind of messing with the organization's image, but the NHL suspending him for this is pretty pathetic.

The woman Avery is referring to is Elisha Cuthbert.  A Canadian actress and apparent hockey-ho.  She has also been romantically linked to Mike Komisarek of the Montreal Canadiens.


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« Reply #3 on: Dec 03, 2008 at 10:14 »

I had not seen the video.  Seems fairly benign if not classless.  Some of the other Stars didn't seem too amused.

The team suspended him before the game though.  Judgment was swift.
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« Reply #4 on: Dec 03, 2008 at 10:37 »

Classless?  Sure, no doubt.

Suspended indefinitely?  That's a little harsh.

I think the NHL has biggers worries than Sean Avery talking about his sloppy seconds, like trying to find a different station than Versus to televise it's games in the states.  Like trying to get attendance up in hopeless cities such as Atlanta, Nashville, Raleigh and the whole state of Florida.  Selling the sport better overall in this country.

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« Reply #5 on: Dec 03, 2008 at 11:06 »

I don't follow hockey nearly as much as football.  But it seems like hockey is more of an old school type of sport in that they cherish their traditions, the players are generally more respectful, etc.  I guess part of those traditions are that you keep stuff like that "in the room" and deal with it "on the ice." 

Just speculating.

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« Reply #6 on: Dec 03, 2008 at 11:42 »

Now if he said something like, "Filthy cunts" or "former behotches" maybe that would merit a suspension. But sloppy seconds? Please.
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« Reply #7 on: Dec 03, 2008 at 13:28 »

Now if he said something like, "Filthy cunts" or "former behotches" maybe that would merit a suspension. But sloppy seconds? Please.

There have been players who have intentionally cross-checked another player in the head/neck area and have received less of a suspension.
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« Reply #8 on: Dec 03, 2008 at 14:01 »

You also have to consider the source here - Avery is not well liked by his peers.  I know that when the signing was announced this summer that Capt. Morrow was underwhelmed, he was practically biting his tongue just to say all the right "team first" things.  He hates the guy.  You heard the other Stars' comments - nobody went to bat for him.

I didn't hear all of it (on the radio) but it seems he had been warned (by the Stars) prior to arriving in Calgary to keep his mouth shut.  Then he goes out of his way to make sure there are cameras present for his comments!

Apparently the league plans to make an example of him.

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The League said the suspension was issued in accordance with the provisions of By-Law 17 and Article 6 of the NHL Constitution for conduct "detrimental to the League or game of hockey." The suspension was imposed following inappropriate public comments about the personal lives of opposing players, and not pertaining to the game, made by Avery earlier in the day.



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« Reply #9 on: Dec 03, 2008 at 16:18 »

I'm not really all that surprised that his teammates did not stick up for him even though player opinion's should not have any impact on what the NHL hands out suspension-wise.  I think many took the Brad Richards approach of "It's his problem, it's his business, it's not my problem or my business.".  I'm sure other players on the team do not like the guy and that's also understandable.  I remember reading about Morrow having a problem with the signing from day one.

Eitherway, making idiotic and classless remarks does not add up to indefinite suspension in my book.  Particularly when you see Bernie Nicholls get one game back in 1994 for cross-checking Kovalev in the back the neck.  Wisniewski getting a one game suspension for cross-checking Mikael Samuelsson in the neck back this past March.  Kubina suspened one game for cross-checking Hudler back in 2006.  Sean Brown on Denis Bonvie back in 2002.  The list goes on and on.

The funny part out of all of this, I actually remember a significant number in Pittsburgh calling for this guy's services before Dallas called him up.  "He can replace Ruutu!" was the cry.  I'm not a fan of the guy, I wasn't a fan of the guy when I saw him on a regular basis when he was with New York.  The move on Brodeur was bush league and his more recent remarks show a lack of class.

I'll take Matt Cooke to fill that role.

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« Reply #10 on: Dec 04, 2008 at 09:21 »

Avery unlikely to return to Stars.

He may as well be radioactive - they want nothing to do with the guy.  Tippett can't imagine how they'd take him back.  Even Hull, who played with Avery in Detroit and pushed to get him signed in Dallas, has distanced.

That dude must be a major piece of shit.
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« Reply #11 on: Dec 04, 2008 at 20:31 »

There we go, here's an apology......http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3743305

For those Penguin fans out there who are mentally destroyed by this incident, it's not like the guy broke down a door, snapped a cell phone in half and slapped a girl in the face like James Harrison, but that's easily ignored and forgotten when he's beating the shit out of the opposing QB on a Sunday afternoon/night.  That's funny.
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« Reply #12 on: Dec 04, 2008 at 21:21 »

This whole story is amusing to me.

You have these 'thug gangsta's' out there who are getting arrested for drugs and domestic violience and bustde for steroids.  Yet the these so-called fans of the NHL are ready to jump on Avery for making classless and idiotic comments.

We have these thug bums shooting guns, taking/selling drugs and physically attacking women on a yearly basis, but Avery is the one the who is making headline news.  It's a joke.  The thug bums in other sports get away with murder and nothing is said.
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« Reply #13 on: Dec 05, 2008 at 09:33 »

So he got 6 games, retro to the 2 he's already missed.  Big whoop, that's roughly equivalent to 1 NFL game or 12 MLB games.

The issue now is how do the Stars deal with the guy after the owner, coach and players are on record that they don't want the asshole back?  I heard that before this mess they were gonna send him down to the AHL but Manitoba insisted they didn't want him.

Maybe they'll give him a sloppy second chance!
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« Reply #14 on: Dec 05, 2008 at 12:08 »

So eight games total, along with anger management classes...I was expecting more after seeing how this 'story' was panning out over the last few days.  That's still six games more than many players get after cross-checking another player over the skull.  I do not see how that makes sense, but whatever.

If the Stars have that big of a problem with the guy and they feel this verbal incident is beyond repair, I'm sure at least one of the other twenty-nine teams in the league would take a shot at him.  I'm sure other owners/gm's are aware of the risks that come along with Avery.  Much like how Tom Hicks, Brett Hull and Les Jackson were aware of the risks before they decided to throw a contract in front of Avery's face back in July.

If teams were willing to sign Probert after he spent time in a Minnesota federal prison after getting arrested for cocaine possession in 1989 and then getting arrested for DUI in 1994, I'm sure there are teams out there who will want Avery.  Even after Detroit's senior VP stated, "This is the end.  In my 12 years with the organization, we've never spent more time on one player and his problems than we have on Probert.", Chicago was still willing to sign and keep him around for another seven years.

Craig MacTavish killed a woman back in 1984 with his car while driving drunk.  He did a year in jail, was released by the Bruins and the Oilers picked him up.  He went on to player for the Rangers, Flyers and Blues.  Vehicular homicide while intoxicated did not stop four other teams from picking him up.

I'm sure Avery will be fine if the Stars decide to trade him.

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