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Author Topic: Don't worry about the loss today guys...  (Read 1210 times)
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« on: Dec 21, 2008 at 15:19 »

So long as Ryan Clark is not seriously injured, I am not overly concerned by this result.

For whatever reason, you could clearly see that the one seed meant a lot more to the Titans then the Steelers, and the way they played reflected that. I felt like the Steelers played very vanilla, a 'rope-a-dope' approach to the game, if you will.

They got the "we have not allowed a 300 yard game" nonsense out of the way....better now then when it counts...also, this "blowout loss" (or how the media will portray it, we know the game itself was closer) will cause everyone to say we are 'done' and keep us under the radar (while still also having a bye, mind you).

We all know how much better the Steelers usually play with a chip on their shoulders.

To top this game off, they show the terrible towel shenanigans by the Titan players..how'd that work out for TJ and the Bengals?

Believe me, if we play these bitches again in the playoffs, we will smash them...rest assured.

Time to rest up, time for some guys to heal, and hopefully have a good warm-up jog out for a victory with our backups against the Browns next week.

Keep the faith guys...


GO STEELERS!!!!!
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« Reply #1 on: Dec 21, 2008 at 15:27 »

I agree... There wasn't a no huddle, no real blitzes... standard package D.  I'm looking fwd to watching the game tonight again.

The part that bothered me the most was the poor decision making by Ben.  Should have had a 3 nothing lead there.  I'm hoping that he'll realize in the playoffs that he needs to be more conservative w/ his decisions.

This was just a recon mission, IMO. 
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« Reply #2 on: Dec 21, 2008 at 15:36 »

I will say the lack of a running game and the spotty line play is a cause for concern, but it has been all season so it is what it is.

I really hope they come out the way they did on the run in '05.

I seriously cannot think of a first and goal PAP all season.....would be a good time to pull it out in the playoffs, don't ya think???
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« Reply #3 on: Dec 21, 2008 at 16:24 »

I seriously cannot think of a first and goal PAP all season.....would be a good time to pull it out in the playoffs, don't ya think???

Hell, maybe they're saving it.  Then again, PAP only works when there's the threat of a successful run ...
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« Reply #4 on: Dec 21, 2008 at 16:41 »

Granted, Jonzr....but maybe something can be had in those situations, as the other team always sells out to stop the run (and for good reason).

It's less that I think they're running is successful and we can fuel the PAP off of it, and more that they can fool the other team because of the tendencies they have shown all season.
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« Reply #5 on: Dec 21, 2008 at 16:44 »

Granted, Jonzr....but maybe something can be had in those situations, as the other team always sells out to stop the run (and for good reason).

It's less that I think they're running is successful and we can fuel the PAP off of it, and more that they can fool the other team because of the tendencies they have shown all season.

I hear ya, but wonder if anyone will be fooled?  But it's certainly something I'd like to see them try.
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« Reply #6 on: Dec 21, 2008 at 18:00 »

Not a big deal...fine w/ the 2nd seed.  As long as we get a bye week, that's what this defense needs.  Some better stuff from the O...thought the TD drives were nice.  Could have been a third INT to Finnegan...hate to see that type of miscommunication that late in the season but there's time to correct it.

Always tough for me to watch the Steelers lose even if a win wouldn't have done much for the postseason.

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« Reply #7 on: Dec 21, 2008 at 20:36 »

FWP was awful today...kind of tired of his "jukey juke" moves, just hit the fucking hole like Moore....he looks so much tougher than Willie with his diving for the first and getting out of bounds...he just seems to have that same fire FWP had 2 years ago.  but honestly, I'm glad we lost this game because it seems like we can only win when we are behind the 8 ball or unfavored...this week everyone picked us, i was super confident we were going to win...i want to be the underdog, don't you?


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« Reply #8 on: Dec 22, 2008 at 00:11 »

The seeding does not bother me, but that offense does and it has nothing to do with Sunday's loss.  They haven't had an identity all season long and the team as a whole doesn't have balance because of the offense.  Not just during this past Sunday.

The defense can save our butt's for a few games straight, but eventually that offense has to start showing me something and quite frankly, they have looked like shit if you ask me.  Maybe I'm just being pessimistic and they will surprise me and win the whole thing with the defense, but I wouldn't bank on it.  Something has to be done before playoff time.

Sorry for being the pessimist here, but I'm not liking it when it comes to winning a Super Bowl at this point in time.
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« Reply #9 on: Dec 22, 2008 at 10:12 »

Another positive to take away from this game:

The Titans showed everyone how to beat the Steelers D.  Patience, hitting the outside with quick passes and pitches.

They have plenty of time to figure out a way to defend that.
My two cents:

-Apply more pressure to the QB.  Rush Harrison and Woodley more frequently.  It's what they do best, no?  The lack of pressure allowed Collins to find the seems and get the ball to the edges.

-Play more of a man scheme w/ safety help over top.  Ike, Gay, and McFadd can be more aggressive.

-The 3&20 gain was a little anomalous.  99% of the time that does not get completed.

-Finally I love the plan to have Polamalu up on the line during obvious running downs.  So many times in the last few games he has knifed into the backfield to hit the RB from behind.  He has the speed to bail and  cover the TE on a PAP.

-One additional thing, I think Timmons needs to start in the playoffs.  Larry Foote had one of the worst games I've seen him play yesterday w/ whiffs, getting out of lanes, and just run over.  Timmons has the speed to get out and cover the edges with aggression.
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« Reply #10 on: Dec 22, 2008 at 11:24 »

On a side note, why don't we ever run anything outside?  Why does everything go between the tackles?
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« Reply #11 on: Dec 22, 2008 at 11:45 »

On a side note, why don't we ever run anything outside?  Why does everything go between the tackles?

I don't know... good point.  I thought I recalled MM getting outside against Jax, Baltimore, some other teams with success.  I thought the bubble screen calls were usually pretty safe for at least 5 yards.

Maybe a reverse or two?  I don't remember seeing it this year.
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« Reply #12 on: Dec 22, 2008 at 19:03 »

it would be nice to see a Fullback at least once during a game...
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« Reply #13 on: Dec 22, 2008 at 19:24 »

it would be nice to see a Fullback at least once during a game...

Fullback?
What's a fullback?
Do we have one?
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« Reply #14 on: Dec 22, 2008 at 22:32 »

Exactly, Leigh. That alone is the most maddening thing about the lack of a running game. At least TRY IT. Nothing else works, WHAT CAN IT HURT?!?

It's one thing if your backs are banged up. It's one thing thing when your line is junk. It's a whole other thing to not make adjustments when you have BOTH of those issues.

When even a hall of fame back like the Bus (behind a line that was head and shoulders above this one) ran behind a fullback, what is the logic in having a less talented (Parker) more beat up RB (behind a WORSE O-line) consistently run up the gut with no FB?

It really is beating the dead horse, but this is almost exclusively on Arians, IMO. Even when the RB's and O-line were better, they STILL largely used the fullback to open up some holes. Everyone knows the Bus was great, but he was made much better with somebody driving the bus. Seriously, do ANY TEAMS run gut on the goal-line with no FB or at least a lead blocker out of the backfield? If you aren't going to do it on the rest of the field, AT LEAST do it there.

The biggest issue here is not the lack of talent on the line. It's not Ben's turnovers, and its not the RB's (although FWP's happy feet are driving me more crazy then most). It is the fundamental lack of executing a gameplan that makes any semblance of sense.

For example, what happened to spreading out the field and throwing to the TE's (we saw that a lot with Miller and Spaeth last season)? What happened to the pass setting up the run?? How many times in past seasons have we seen Ben throw to the TE's on goal to go situations, or slants to Ward? How often have we seen that this year? I care less then most about "playing Steeler football". Steeler football to me is winning. I don't care how they get in the endzone, JUST GET IN!!!

If the Steelers had an O that was even comparable to last years, they would be in much better shape. Like it or not, the best chance of success for this team RIGHT NOW is spreading the other team out and getting some cutback runs and draws with Moore. Then when they back off, try to pound the rock a little. But for heaven sake, sprinkle in at least the ODD RUN outside the tackles.

Like, this isn't really rocket science. As fans, we understand not much can be done about the health of the backs, or the lack of talent on the line until the off-season. But a lot can be done via the game-planning and providing the players (talented or otherwise) with the best chance to succeed.

Until that effort is at least made legitimately, Arians will forever feel my scorn.
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« Reply #15 on: Dec 22, 2008 at 22:52 »

im worried about the loss.  Im worried that they will play the starters sparingly against cleveland, stink it up possibly on O and end up losing the game entirely.  then not have a meaningful game till the divisionals all the while riding a two game losing streak.

losing is contagious just as much as winning.
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« Reply #16 on: Dec 23, 2008 at 08:39 »

I am not overly worried about the loss only because of the reason we lost.  Although FWP has shown nothing since the first few weeks and the line just absolutely sucks the only reason we lost that game is the turnovers PERIOD.  Ben hangs on to the ball and does not throw that first interception we win by 10 points easy.  I am not worried because that is not going to happen again.

Am I the only one who feels that our offense will have a break out game or two this year?  Maybe I am delusional but I feel we are capable, with this OC, our line and our backs, to put 31 points on the board.  I am hoping that we have been planning for the playoffs for the past 2-3 games.

And by the way there is no way we lose to the Browns, absolutely no way.  If they dig Joe Gilliam up (God rest his sole) and he would pick that defense apart. headbang
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« Reply #17 on: Dec 23, 2008 at 11:25 »

im worried about the loss.  Im worried that they will play the starters sparingly against cleveland, stink it up possibly on O and end up losing the game entirely. 

IMO, Pittsburgh could sit everybody against Cleveland and they should still win.

Ken fucking Dorsey??!!  C'mon.
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