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Author Topic: Many teens don't keep virginity pledges  (Read 1422 times)
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« on: Dec 29, 2008 at 14:29 »

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Teens who take virginity pledges are just as likely to have sex as teens who don't make such promises -- and they're less likely to practice safe sex to prevent disease or pregnancy, a new study finds.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/hsn/20081229/hl_hsn/manyteensdontkeepvirginitypledges

Ya think?  Gosh, if only there was a prominent political figure with a teenage daughter who could be an example to us all.

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« Reply #1 on: Dec 29, 2008 at 22:45 »

Its a "well known" fact that Mormon girls get around the the whole virginity thing by reasonably reasoning that oral and anal sex don't count. Not that there is anything wrong with that...but just goes to show that loopholes (no pun intended) will be found and used by even the most supposedly pious people.
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« Reply #2 on: Dec 30, 2008 at 23:32 »

I could have told you that, and you wouldn't have even had to read the article  Wink.  This is the reason that I don't use purity pledges or "purity rings" (a term that I find rather hysterical--sounds like something you buy from an online porn site) in any of my teaching.  We talk extensively about sex, dating, relationships...and I even teach abstinence to my students.  But I'm also smart enough to recognize that they are human, and that the guilt over breaking such a pledge could be worse than if they don't make a pledge at all.
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« Reply #3 on: Dec 31, 2008 at 08:26 »

But I'm also smart enough to recognize that they are human, and that the guilt over breaking such a pledge could be worse than if they don't make a pledge at all.

That's a very salient point that many simply ignore.  Why must pleasure be paired with measures of guilt?  It seems doubtful but perhaps one day the human race will move beyond that.
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« Reply #4 on: Dec 31, 2008 at 09:10 »

In other news, water remains wet; the Bengals still suck; etc., etc.
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« Reply #5 on: Dec 31, 2008 at 12:01 »

Youth Ministry is a far cry from what it needs to be.  For all the fancy bands and music, dynamic speakers, big youth conferences, etc., it really hasn't changed much.  It's still a "game" of trying to get teens to be morally pure.

My problem with this is that the Gospel is supposed to be dynamic, challenging, sometimes even frustrating.  Churches are trying to make it about following a moral "straight line," and if you fall off that line then you're a degenerate.  That's just not being true to the Christ that we see in scripture.

I teach abstinence because I see the damage that sexual relationships causes in teens and in premarital counseling.  Not saying it's always like that, but kids are usually way to young--emotionally and spiritually--to be doing a lot of the stuff they are doing.  It creates a lot of confusion, and even some problems later in life.  I've even seen it lead to issues in marriage.

However, a lot of times kids don't intend to get involved in a sexual relationship.  Like most of us, they get caught up in the heat of the moment.  It's often a mistake, but we can be forgiven for our mistakes.  Why add another layer to the confusion and guilt they already have?
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« Reply #6 on: Dec 31, 2008 at 19:15 »

Preach,

I hear these are flying off the shelves with the younger crowd.

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« Reply #7 on: Jan 01, 2009 at 10:43 »

Hmmmm...I might pick one of those up myself! 

Of course, after the anniversary incident and the jersey, that might be pushing it.  Three strikes and I'm out!
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« Reply #8 on: Jan 12, 2009 at 08:17 »

And in other virgin news....

Student auctions off virginity
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/4222155/Student-auctions-off-virginity-for-offers-of-more-than-2.5-million.html
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« Reply #9 on: Jan 12, 2009 at 09:19 »

Not that she's a complete root, but it's hard to believe she's been offered $5 million.
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