Many teens don't keep virginity pledges

[jonzr]

Teens who take virginity pledges are just as likely to have sex as teens who don't make such promises -- and they're less likely to practice safe sex to prevent disease or pregnancy, a new study finds.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/hsn/20081229/hl_hsn/manyteensdontkeepvirginitypledges

Ya think?  Gosh, if only there was a prominent political figure with a teenage daughter who could be an example to us all.

[steelerfaninCO]

Its a "well known" fact that Mormon girls get around the the whole virginity thing by reasonably reasoning that oral and anal sex don't count. Not that there is anything wrong with that...but just goes to show that loopholes (no pun intended) will be found and used by even the most supposedly pious people.

[Preacherman0]

I could have told you that, and you wouldn't have even had to read the article  .  This is the reason that I don't use purity pledges or "purity rings" (a term that I find rather hysterical--sounds like something you buy from an online porn site) in any of my teaching.  We talk extensively about sex, dating, relationships...and I even teach abstinence to my students.  But I'm also smart enough to recognize that they are human, and that the guilt over breaking such a pledge could be worse than if they don't make a pledge at all.

[jonzr]

But I'm also smart enough to recognize that they are human, and that the guilt over breaking such a pledge could be worse than if they don't make a pledge at all.

That's a very salient point that many simply ignore.  Why must pleasure be paired with measures of guilt?  It seems doubtful but perhaps one day the human race will move beyond that.

[aj_law]

In other news, water remains wet; the Bengals still suck; etc., etc.

[Preacherman0]

Youth Ministry is a far cry from what it needs to be.  For all the fancy bands and music, dynamic speakers, big youth conferences, etc., it really hasn't changed much.  It's still a "game" of trying to get teens to be morally pure.

My problem with this is that the Gospel is supposed to be dynamic, challenging, sometimes even frustrating.  Churches are trying to make it about following a moral "straight line," and if you fall off that line then you're a degenerate.  That's just not being true to the Christ that we see in scripture.

I teach abstinence because I see the damage that sexual relationships causes in teens and in premarital counseling.  Not saying it's always like that, but kids are usually way to young--emotionally and spiritually--to be doing a lot of the stuff they are doing.  It creates a lot of confusion, and even some problems later in life.  I've even seen it lead to issues in marriage.

However, a lot of times kids don't intend to get involved in a sexual relationship.  Like most of us, they get caught up in the heat of the moment.  It's often a mistake, but we can be forgiven for our mistakes.  Why add another layer to the confusion and guilt they already have?

[otismalibu]

Preach,

I hear these are flying off the shelves with the younger crowd.

[Preacherman0]

Hmmmm...I might pick one of those up myself! 

Of course, after the anniversary incident and the jersey, that might be pushing it.  Three strikes and I'm out!

[vinman3]

And in other virgin news....

Student auctions off virginity
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/4222155/Student-auctions-off-virginity-for-offers-of-more-than-2.5-million.html

[jonzr]

Not that she's a complete root, but it's hard to believe she's been offered $5 million.

[msdmnr2002]

"I think me and the person I do it with will both profit greatly from the deal."

Damn, that's arrogant considering she's a rookie...

A student who is auctioning her virginity to pay for a masters degree in Family and Marriage therapy

No irony here or anything.  Prostitution is doing wonders for marriage and families.

For that kind of cash, it would require way more than a one night stand.  At least a month, anything goes, including whatever otis can come up with.
Still wouldn't be "worth it," but gotta think of something.  One time?  I think the offer's bogus.

[vinman3]

"I think me and the person I do it with will both profit greatly from the deal."

Damn, that's arrogant considering she's a rookie...

A student who is auctioning her virginity to pay for a masters degree in Family and Marriage therapy

No irony here or anything.  Prostitution is doing wonders for marriage and families.

For that kind of cash, it would require way more than a one night stand.  At least a month, anything goes, including whatever otis can come up with.
Still wouldn't be "worth it," but gotta think of something.  One time?  I think the offer's bogus.

No it's real. A Nigerian made the offer, she just has to send him the money for the taxes on the cash, and it is hers.

[otismalibu]

No it's real. A Nigerian made the offer

In view of this, if you are touched to work with us in sincerity, by
standing as my late husband's carnal representative to receive the said
virgin anus on my behalf, I shall embrace you as my new found
butt plug as you compensate me accordingly.

As you indicate interest, please be fast to contact my son Levi on
this email address (bumplum@yahoo.com ) to enable him give you
further information relative to Operation Starfish and the
steps we shall take to finalize on the project.

[dare2beme]

Do I remember correctly a comment being made about Otis having a vast porno collection?

All that porn viewing is finally paying dividends. :madscientistcackle:

[msdmnr2002]

No it's real. A Nigerian made the offer, she just has to send him the money for the taxes on the cash, and it is hers.

I would have bet on one of those billionaire Arab oil guys.  Infinite cash + I think virginity's still a big deal there.

[jonzr]

I would need the USDA to confirm that virginity first though.

[JackSplat]

Operation Starfish

that is awesome.