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« on: Dec 31, 2008 at 21:45 »

Since we're still in the 'Burg this week, I was listening to espn 1250 this evening.  I was "lucky" enough to catch an interview with Bruce Arians.

My frustration and feelings on Arians are pretty much the same as most everyone else's on this board.  After hearing this interview, my spite for him has reached an entirely new level. 

This guy has to be the most arrogant jackass coaching in the NFL.  Okay, well, maybe not THE most, but he's gotta be pretty close.  I absolutely couldn't believe what I was hearing.  He said that our running game had been sufficient this year--not great, but sufficient (not the exact word, but his exact words gave it even more credit).  The guy doing the interview started to question him about the run game on Sunday, the two-back sets, etc.  Arians kept cutting him off and saying stuff like, "Well, I was around when the Steelers won the Super Bowl and they didn't do that running the ball." 

"We only ran seven plays with a fullback and only two of them worked."

"Willie's touchdown was on the same play as the Super Bowl.  He wasn't complaining about not having a fullback."  (or something to that effect)

It wasn't just what he said.  It was the totally cocky way he blew off anything that questions what he was doing or how the offense is designed.  He was just completely brash, and even sounded (IMO) like he was blowing off FWP or anyone else who dared to criticize his offensive "genius."

After listening to this dingleberry, I'm not surprised that our offense has regressed over the last two years.
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« Reply #1 on: Jan 05, 2009 at 09:37 »

I can't stand Mike Martz, but I gotta say that if it came down to Arians or Martz...I'd probably bite the bullet and opt for the latter.
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« Reply #2 on: Jan 05, 2009 at 11:24 »

I have a strong feeling, even if we go deep and win it all, that BA is gone after this year. I honestly believe that he and Tomlin have to be clashing behind closed doors. Tomlin seems like the kind of guy who would love to run the ball and control the clock.

The stats this year don't lie. Yeah, there have been injuries, but there's no excuse for a team who prides itself on running the ball not to be able to run at all against anyone but the bottom feeders of the NFL. And a 24th ranking in the NFL sucks no matter how you slice it.

There's also no excuse not to be able to execute screens to slowdown the passrush when I see the likes of Tavaris Jackson and Mcnabb running them to perfection.

The whole keeping of Carey Davis as a "pass receiving" fullback has worked for shit too. He's caught like 5 passes for 9 yards in 2 years. You're going to tell me Kreider wouldn't improve the short yardage O? Instead we got some Lion castoff TE trying to lead on the goaline. Yuck.

I think when Tomlin sits down to evaluate the offensive performance there will be changes along the O-line and BA is gone. Bring in a veteran OC who will take advantage of the player we have. At least a guy who can get the O in the top half of the league.

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« Reply #3 on: Jan 05, 2009 at 12:23 »

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I think when Tomlin sits down to evaluate the offensive performance there will be changes along the O-line and BA is gone. Bring in a veteran OC who will take advantage of the player we have. At least a guy who can get the O in the top half of the league.

I'd take Mularkey back over Arians.

And BTW, what is the deal with the Whizzinator growing some testes come playoff time?  I couldn't believe they came out running the ball.  I couldn't believe what he was doing at the end of the game vs. ATL.  Maybe if he'd been calling the plays, we wouldn't have had the Ben Sweep vs. the Jags last year.
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« Reply #4 on: Jan 05, 2009 at 12:27 »

I am absolutely not defending this prick because I dislike him as much as anyone else and I didn't hear the interview.  Having said that, I would imagine I would get a little "snippy" as well if I was as publicly bad at my job as he is.  I am sure that everywhere he went, he got an earful from the black and gold faithful about fullbacks, and controlling the clock, and screens.  I know I would have said all those things to him.  

I wouldn't be surprised he if doesn't get fired but is released from his contract to accept another position elsewhere...

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« Reply #5 on: Jan 05, 2009 at 12:44 »

The fact that this offense is incapable of running a screen play, a feat which no other team including the winless Lions could achieve, says it all about Arians and really LZ as well. The timing is complete shit, the RB's don't know where to go, the OL are not holding their blocks long enough to sell the play, and the QB either gets almost INTed, or has to throw the ball into the RB's feet. Its a disgrace. And takes what could be a great play against Ben hungry DL's and throws it out the window.

I can't believe I'm about to say it but..... This delayed draw that is always good for negative yardage makes me yearn for the days of the Verron Haynes 3rd down draw. WTF? This offense can't even execute the simplest of plays. Not even the 36 Smash anymore.

And while I'm ranting about that shit head Arians, I'm sick of seeing him on the sidelines talking to Ben like "Well, that didn't work, what do you want to go with next?". Ummm, how 'bout a cohesive game plan tailored to the strengths and weaknesses of that particular defense taking into account that your OL sucks donkey dicks? I know Ben likes him, probably because he is on the sidelines asking Ben's opinion a lot, but is it really helping the team?

The Steelers need an experienced OC who can break film down, develop a game plan, and call the shots. Let Ben do his thing in the no huddle, and go to it a little more during the entire game. There is just too much talent here to struggle like they have.
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« Reply #6 on: Jan 05, 2009 at 12:47 »

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Having said that, I would imagine I would get a little "snippy" as well if I was as publicly bad at my job as he is.  

I would agree that this would be a natural reaction.  But I guess that was the troubling part of it--he wasn't just defensive or bristling at the questions.  He was just downright ARROGANT, just talking down to the interviewer (I think it was Guy Junker, who can be annoying).  I fully expected him at some point to just say, "All these Yinzers are a bunch of dumbasses and I'm the greatest offensive mind of all-time!"  He sounded like the proverbial high school all-star QB talking to the class chess champion.  

He wasn't really defending himself or even defending the players.  He wasn't even responding to statistics or criticism.  He was just talking like everyone else is...stupid.  He reminded me a little of GW, only with a more arrogant tone.
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« Reply #7 on: Jan 05, 2009 at 12:53 »

 He reminded me a little of GW, only with a more arrogant tone.

Really?  That's impressive! W is the king of the "What is it about what I'm saying that you dumb asses just don't get?" tone and look.

Of course I'm assuming GW is refering to our beloved President.
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« Reply #8 on: Jan 05, 2009 at 13:29 »

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I know Ben likes him, probably because he is on the sidelines asking Ben's opinion a lot, but is it really helping the team?

Ben likes everyone that leaves.  He was upset about Plexiglass, Whizzinator, Cowher, etc.  He even called out Tomlin over dinner when he first arrived.  He'll get over it.  By next year, he might even realize that he's better off when he's still in one piece by the end of the season.
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« Reply #9 on: Jan 05, 2009 at 13:31 »

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Of course I'm assuming GW is refering to our beloved President.

Naturally.  I'm wondering if BA had the facial expression to go along with the tone of voice.

Oh, wait...I wouldn't be able to see it because Bruce would have his face hidden behind his play sheet.  He's like Wilson on Home Improvement.

Just a hint Bruce--apparently your handwriting is big enough for defense to read directly off the sheet.  The mouth cover isn't helping.
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« Reply #10 on: Jan 05, 2009 at 16:10 »

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Of course I'm assuming GW is refering to our beloved President.

Naturally.  I'm wondering if BA had the facial expression to go along with the tone of voice.

Oh, wait...I wouldn't be able to see it because Bruce would have his face hidden behind his play sheet.  He's like Wilson on Home Improvement.

Just a hint Bruce--apparently your handwriting is big enough for defense to read directly off the sheet.  The mouth cover isn't helping.

Now that made me laugh... clap

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« Reply #11 on: Jan 05, 2009 at 17:23 »

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Now that made me laugh...

Good...you need a laugh these days, Baltimore Guy!
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« Reply #12 on: Jan 05, 2009 at 23:27 »

In a Perfect world this year, the steelers go all the way, and Bruce Arians is offered a HC job on some crappy ass team desperate for Super Bowl Talent.

what chafes my ass though, is we could of had Cam Cameroon instead of building on the bruce arians project.  Love or hate the Ravens, they Do have one heck of an OC.  Would anyone ever expect BA come out in the no huddle to start a playoff game like the Birdies did against Miami?  Play calling like that wins you champeenships.  Miami was slapped in the mouth and didnt recover.

I guarantee we come out with the very same game plan offensively that we did in the previous SD game.  why the fuck not, it worked then, will be bruce's mentality.  very sad!

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« Reply #13 on: Jan 06, 2009 at 10:51 »

I'm a fan of Willie Parker.  I'm not a fan of Bruce Arians.  I actually despise him...

That said, I believe our lack of success running screen passes is 100% the fault of Willie Parker.  I have watched Mewelde Moore (scarcely) sell the screen, and effectively move down field after receiving the ball.  I totally believe that it is FWP's inability to sell the screen that keeps us from executing that play.  I don't know exactly why that is, because I do remember us running some pretty damn nice screen plays to FWP in the super bowl year.  I honestly think that his knee is bothering him to the point where he is thinking about it on every single play...Whether it is a run play, or a screen where he needs to sell a block.  I don't know a good solution to the problem, but I think it may involve a lot more Gary Russell, and MM.
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« Reply #14 on: Jan 06, 2009 at 10:58 »

There's no sense even throwing the ball to FWP. The guy never seems to time it right to even be in position for the catch. He's only a slightly better receiver than Bus. Moore, on the other hand, usually gets some positive yards and has made a number of nice dump off catch and run plays this year.

Although, FWP seemed to run better with Leftwich in there. Same with Holmes catching.  Grin
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« Reply #15 on: Jan 07, 2009 at 13:30 »

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And a 24th ranking in the NFL sucks no matter how you slice it.

Says it all, really.  Someone mentioned Mularkey above, I would do a backover flip if they brought him back.

The one thing about being a Steelers coordinator is it seems like a fast track to the top. Unless your name is Tim Lewis.
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« Reply #16 on: Jan 07, 2009 at 13:36 »

i would pay money to see you do a backflip.     crutches
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« Reply #17 on: Jan 07, 2009 at 13:40 »

i would pay money to see you do a backflip.     crutches

Hey, my divorce finally became final last week.  Anything's possible.
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« Reply #18 on: Jan 07, 2009 at 13:46 »

i would pay money to see you do a backflip.     crutches

Hey, my divorce finally became final last week.  Anything's possible.

Wow.  Nothing like dragging that shit out.

On the OC front, maybe we'll shitcan Arians and get someone worse.  Then in a couple years we can pine for the good old days of BA and his delayed draws.
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« Reply #19 on: Jan 07, 2009 at 13:49 »

i would pay money to see you do a backflip.     crutches

Hey, my divorce finally became final last week.  Anything's possible.

Wow.  Nothing like dragging that shit out.


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On the OC front, maybe we'll shitcan Arians and get someone worse.  Then in a couple years we can pine for the good old days of BA and his delayed draws.

True dat.  We have a history of bitching about coordinators not nemd Lebeau, D.
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« Reply #20 on: Jan 07, 2009 at 13:56 »

hopefully, our Offense won't suck so bad I pine for Arians' crap....


If anything's possible then you're finally free for a trip to Southeast Asia I presume?   yeh
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« Reply #21 on: Jan 07, 2009 at 14:22 »


If anything's possible then you're finally free for a trip to Southeast Asia I presume?   yeh

Next week I'm going to the big D to stay with the girlfriend's family.  I'm taking every piece of Steelers gear I own.  Unless they lose.
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If anything's possible then you're finally free for a trip to Southeast Asia I presume?   yeh

Next week I'm going to the big D to stay with the girlfriend's family.  I'm taking every piece of Steelers gear I own.  Unless they lose.

then you'll be rolling in with a luggage cart rivaling Diana Ross on a weekend trip??
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« Reply #23 on: Jan 07, 2009 at 14:35 »


If anything's possible then you're finally free for a trip to Southeast Asia I presume?   yeh

Next week I'm going to the big D to stay with the girlfriend's family.  I'm taking every piece of Steelers gear I own.  Unless they lose.

then you'll be rolling in with a luggage cart rivaling Diana Ross on a weekend trip??

My luggage will have luggage.
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« Reply #24 on: Jan 07, 2009 at 15:00 »

On the OC front, maybe we'll shitcan Arians and get someone worse.  Then in a couple years we can pine for the good old days of BA and his delayed draws.

Kevin.  Gilbride.

Oh, the ironing...

Pittsburgh is damn fucking lucky that ****ie is a terrible HC.
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« Reply #25 on: Jan 09, 2009 at 07:43 »

And a 24th ranking in the NFL sucks no matter how you slice it.


Actually, I compared how the Steelers ran the ball versus the strength of the run defenses they played, and it wasn't quite that bad. Relative to their schedule, they ranked something like 18th. Still shitty, but maybe not as embarassing as all that.
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