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« on: Jan 17, 2009 at 10:54 »

http://penguins.nhl.com/team/app/?se...ticleid=404781
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« Reply #1 on: Jan 17, 2009 at 11:51 »

Seriously, what the fuck? Shero just made Fluery a very rich man last offseason, and now he trades for a back-up goalie, and a bad one at that.

This after giving Jordal Staal the extension he didn't deserve. And signing a lazy slug to replace Hossa.

I used to have alot of faith in Shero.
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« Reply #2 on: Jan 17, 2009 at 12:45 »

While it doesn't come close to solving our problems, I'll take it considering that Sabourin has looked like hell and Ryan Stone hasn't done jack when given the opportunity.

Plus, I recall Stone not being happy in the Penguins organization. I believe he was the one who refused his WBS assignment in the beginning of the season and then changed his mind. I could be wrong on that, but I'm fairly sure.

Eitherway, I'll take Garon. The same guy who replaced Roloson last season and was only replaced later in the year by Roloson because of an ankle injury.

He's also pretty damn good when it comes to shootouts. He was 10-0 last season in SO's, led the league. So while he may not be having the greatest year this season, he was pretty damn good last season.

Plus, it's not like we are banking on this guy to be our long term #2. That's why we have Curry. At least we got something for a shaky Sabourin and a underachieving and unhappy Ryan Stone. Who knows? Maybe Garon pushes Fleury to play better? It didn't hurt last season with Conklin and his numbers were not exactly stellar before he came to Pittsburgh.

At $1.2 million and really not giving up all that much, I'll take it.
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« Reply #3 on: Jan 17, 2009 at 12:55 »

Also, Sabourin's contract is up after this season, and he wasn't going to sign with us. At least we got something for him I guess. I'll take Garon, I agree PghSteel43 too. Might help bring MAF's game back up to where it was in the playoffs last year.
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« Reply #4 on: Jan 17, 2009 at 13:46 »

Also, Sabourin's contract is up after this season, and he wasn't going to sign with us. At least we got something for him I guess. I'll take Garon, I agree PghSteel43 too. Might help bring MAF's game back up to where it was in the playoffs last year.

Last night he was one of the three stars of the game.  He made 37 saves in a 3-2 win against the Avs.  Not bad for a guy who played on a team that was rotating three different goaltenders this year.

Like I said, it's not going to solve all of our problems, but at least we got something in return for Sabourin and Stone.  Also, they were interviewing Fletcher a little while ago on the radio and while he did not come out and say it, they are not happy with Fleury right now.  I believe this is also a strong message sent to Fleury.
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« Reply #5 on: Jan 17, 2009 at 15:18 »

They are already talking about either sending him down to Springfield or trading him....

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It is expected Sabourin, 28, will either be assigned to the Oilers AHL affiliate in Springfield or moved to another NHL team within the next couple of days.
 

http://www.edmontonsun.com/Sports/Oi...7/8057836.html

And from what I'm reading on Oiler boards, they are not happy with this deal.

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« Reply #6 on: Jan 17, 2009 at 16:10 »

Well this team doesn't need to be giving up any more draft picks for a slight upgrade (if that) to the backup goaltender. And I think Garon's contract is up after this year too. Is he going to resign to backup Fluery?


I realize it's not going to kill em, but it's not good either. I'd rather have kept the pick and done nothing.
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« Reply #7 on: Jan 17, 2009 at 17:20 »

I realize it's not going to kill em, but it's not good either. I'd rather have kept the pick and done nothing.

I'm on your side with this one Merman. For a team that has a history of getting nothing from draft picks not taken in the first round, and had only a hand-ful of picks last year, I hate losing that 4th rounder in this deal. Sabourin for Garon straight up should have been enough. Throw in Stone, whatever, he's never going to see full-time work in the NHL anyway. But why did Shero have to throw in a draft pick?

Garon's contract is higher than Conklin's, ya think Shero wishes he could have a do-over on that decision?

I honestly don't see Garon pushing Fleury any more that Sabourin did. They both suck and Fleury is suffering from poor play in front of him more than anything. For the last 6 weeks it's looked like we've been killing penalties the entire game even when we're on the power play let alone even-strength.

On the ice, this deal won't make a difference one way or the other. I just don't see why we had to throw in the pick.
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« Reply #8 on: Jan 17, 2009 at 18:23 »

Comments from Shero and Fletcher on the deal....
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« Reply #9 on: Jan 18, 2009 at 00:00 »

Penguins trade Sabourin to Oilers for backup goalie Garon
Sunday, January 18, 2009
By Shelly Anderson, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Following through on his promise not to make a trade simply because his team is struggling but only if he saw a way to improve the Penguins, general manager Ray Shero yesterday struck a deal with Edmonton.

It was not a blockbuster designed to shake up a team that is 11-16-2 since a six-game winning streak the first half of November, 3-8 in its past 11 games and 2-6 in its past eight home games going into a matinee today against the New York Rangers.

This was a trade that had a lot to do with goaltender Marc-Andre Fleury.

Fleury -- as much of an untouchable as there is on the roster-- was not moved or demoted. Rather, Mathieu Garon was brought in from Edmonton to upgrade the team's goaltending and perhaps push Fleury some.

"At 31, I think Garon is seen as a goalie that still has upside to his game, and maybe a more veteran presence with Marc might be good," Shero said after he sent goaltender Dany Sabourin, minor-league forward Ryan Stone and a fourth-round draft pick in 2011 to the Oilers for Garon.

"That's what happened last season," Shero said of 2007-08, when veteran journeyman Ty Conklin gave the Penguins a strong, 18-8-5 performance, primarily during Fleury's absence because of a high ankle sprain. Fleury watched how Conklin handled being the No. 1 goaltender, how he stick-handled, how he sparked at least some debate on whether Fleury should be handed back the starting job -- and it pushed Fleury to have a strong stretch drive and help the Penguins reach the Stanley Cup final.

Earlier in his Penguins career, Fleury got guidance from veteran backup Jocelyn Thibault.

Sabourin, 28, has been Fleury's road roommate and more of a buddy -- "It's always tough to lose a friend like that," Fleury said -- but Garon could represent more competition.

"He's somebody with experience," said Fleury, who has met Garon only in passing. "I think I can learn from him."

This season, after signing a seven-year, $35 million contract, Fleury, 24 and the first overall pick in the 2003 NHL draft, started 11-5-2. He has slipped to 14-11-2 with a 2.94 goals-against average and a .905 save percentage -- and the latter two numbers have improved some as he went 2-1 in his past two games, including the 3-1 win Friday against Anaheim.

As one of three goaltenders in Edmonton, Garon was expendable.

He won a career-best 31 games with Los Angeles in 2005-06 and was the Oilers' starter last season, going 26-18-1 with a 2.66 goals-against average, before losing the No. 1 job to Dwayne Roloson. This season, he was 6-8-0 and had a 3.17 goals-against average and .895 save percentage.

After going 14 games without a start and one 40-minute relief appearance, Garon was in net Friday night, making 37 saves in a 3-2 win against Colorado.

"We need a little bit more experience with our goaltending," said Penguins coach Michel Therrien, who coached Garon in limited stretches in Montreal when Garon was breaking into the NHL early this decade. "A guy like Garon has been in the league for a while and has been a No. 1 goalie in the past. I think it's going to be a good fit with Fleury. Marc-Andre is still our guy, but we want to make sure he's going to be well-surrounded."

Therrien added that between Fleury and Garon, "performance will dictate the ice time."

Garon, like Sabourin, is eligible for unrestricted free agency in the summer. Garon makes $1 million this season, Sabourin, $525,000.

"It's never good to leave your teammates and a city that you like, but, at the same time, it's going to be good for me because I'll have a chance to play more than I did," Garon told the Edmonton Journal. "I knew from training camp something was going to happen, but I didn't know when or where or who."

While Fleury was out for about a month with a groin injury, Sabourin started off strong stepping in but recently faltered. He is 6-8-2 with a 2.85 goals-against average and a .898 save percentage.

"One of the problems we identified was our goaltending needs to be better," Shero said. "Dany Sabourin is a good goaltender and a nice guy, but we need to be a little better if possible."

Sabourin might not report to the Oilers until after the All-Star break next weekend and could be moved again because of the Oilers' three-goaltender situation.

Stone, a second-round draft pick in 2003, has played in eight NHL games, two this season. The Penguins earlier this season placed him on waivers, but there were no takers.

"This gives Ryan Stone a new opportunity somewhere else, which is something I was trying to do," Shero said.

http://www.postgazette.com/pg/09018/942663-61.stm
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