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« on: Jan 22, 2009 at 16:27 »

Mel Kiper's first round

Pick  Team   Player    Position    College
1 Detroit - Matthew Stafford QB Georgia
2 St. Louis - Andre Smith OT Alabama
3 Kansas - City Mark Sanchez QB USC
4 Seattle - Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech
5 Cleveland - Aaron Curry LB Wake Forest
6 Cincinnati - Jason Smith OT Baylor
7 Oakland - Jeremy Maclin WR Missouri
8 Jacksonville - Eugene Monroe OT Virginia
9 Green Bay - Malcolm Jenkins CB Ohio St.
10 San Francisco - Aaron Maybin DE/OLB Penn St.
11 Buffalo - Brandon Pettigrew TE Oklahoma St.
12 Denver - B.J. Raji DT Boston College
13 Washington - Brian Orakpo DE Texas
14 New Orleans - Vontae Davis CB Illinois
15 Houston - Everette Brown DE Florida St.
16 San Diego - Knowshon Moreno RB Georgia
17 New York Jets - Percy Harvin WR Florida
18 Chicago - Tyson Jackson DE LSU
19 Tampa Bay - Josh Freeman QB Kansas St.
20 Detroit (from Dallas) - Rey Maualuga LB USC
21 Philadelphia - Chris 'Beanie' Wells RB Ohio St.
22 Minnesota - Hakeem Nicks WR North Carolina
23 New England - Brian Cushing LB USC
24 Atlanta - Larry English DE/OLB No. Illinois
25 Miami - Darrius Heyward-Bey WR Mryland
26 Baltimore - D.J. Moore CB Vanderbilt
27 Indianapolis - Peria Jerry DT Mississippi
28 Philadelphia (from Carolina) - Michael Oher OT Mississippi
29 New York Giants - James Laurinaitis LB Ohio St.
30 Tennessee - Michael Johnson DE Georgia Tech
31 Arizona - LeSean McCoy RB Pittsburgh
32 Pittsburgh - Alex Mack C California

I wouldn't complain about that. I'd rather see an OT, but if he's the best talent available, then so be it.
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« Reply #1 on: Jan 23, 2009 at 07:51 »

If that holds to form, then I'm hoping that we'll put something together to move up five spots for Oher.  I think the guy is way undervalued, but I guess we'll have to see how it goes at the combine. 

In my typical Furman Homer form, I'll also lobby that we may be able to pick up a late-round find.  Joel Bell, 6-7, 315 left tackle.  Talk around here is that he is one of the most "gifted" athletes that no one ever heard of, and could certainly be a diamond in the rough for us.
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« Reply #2 on: Jan 23, 2009 at 09:35 »

If that holds to form, then I'm hoping that we'll put something together to move up five spots for Oher.  I think the guy is way undervalued, but I guess we'll have to see how it goes at the combine. 

Uh, so this.  This in a big way.  If this doesn't happen, I'll be extremely pissed about this.  They need to make this happen.

I don't know if I'd say he's undervalued though.  This is the lowest I've seen him projected...anywhere.  For the most part, he's been a top 15 pick in pretty much everything I've seen.  And, after the combine, I'd expect his stock to rise, not fall. 

If he slips to the late teens, a trade up should be considered. 

Mid to late 20's??  Nothing to consider there.  It would be a monumental mistake not to.

*daydreams about an offensive line consisting of Gross at LT and Oher at RT*

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« Reply #3 on: Jan 23, 2009 at 09:49 »

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*daydreams about an offensive line consisting of Gross at LT and Oher at RT*

:wetdream:

LOL...you can forget that one!  The Panthers--wisely, IMO--are going to sacrifice Peppers to keep Gross.  So, unless we fork out some SERIOUS coin, it ain't gonna happen.

Oher?  Well, we can only hope...if he gets below 20 and we're not immediately on the phone, I'll be tempted to find Colbert and kick his teeth in.
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« Reply #4 on: Jan 23, 2009 at 09:50 »

Kiper's a douche, Oher won't make it past 15, probably closer to top 5.  If he's there at 27, trade the motherfuck up.

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« Reply #5 on: Jan 23, 2009 at 10:08 »

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Kiper's a douche

Now THERE'S some news!  Grin
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« Reply #6 on: Jan 23, 2009 at 10:52 »

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LOL...you can forget that one!  The Panthers--wisely, IMO--are going to sacrifice Peppers to keep Gross.  So, unless we fork out some SERIOUS coin, it ain't gonna happen.

Oher?  Well, we can only hope...if he gets below 20 and we're not immediately on the phone, I'll be tempted to find Colbert and kick his teeth in.

Everything I've seen about Gross' sitch with Carolina makes me think that they're not gonna tag him again.  He was really unhappy about it happening before the '08 season and he wanted a long term deal.  For monetary reasons, I'm sure, they weren't able to come to an agreement.  I don't know if they want to run the risk again and have him do something like hold out to really upset the apple cart.

I think he hits the open market and I'm thinking an offer of 5YR/45-50MIL/18-20BONUS would, at the very least, get his attention.  He's 27, I think and considering they wasted 13 to 14 million on the Starks/Smith combo this year, I think getting him at that price would be a steal.  Maybe I'm underestimating his market value, but I think the prospect of making 10 million per, playing for a team that was just in the SB is going to be awfully enticing.

Add Oher via the draft and voila, instant top 10, maybe top 5 offensive line.
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« Reply #7 on: Jan 23, 2009 at 10:56 »

I dunno, maybe they tag Peppers and sing Gross to a long-term.  Getting Gross as a FA is aj's dream, but I just think that, the way we operate, the way the market is in FA, it all adds up to a 0.0000001% chance of Gross wearing the black and gold.
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« Reply #8 on: Jan 23, 2009 at 11:03 »

I'm just hopin' that they're sick and MF'in tired of seeing their 100 million dollar QB face down in the turf 5 or 6 times a game.
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« Reply #9 on: Jan 23, 2009 at 11:29 »

I'm just hopin' that they're sick and MF'in tired of seeing their 100 million dollar QB face down in the turf 5 or 6 times a game.

It's not so bad.  The line is "improving."  The guys are "underrated."  Ad nauseam.

I forget who the Raven was, but he settled back for a two-Mississippi, until the blockers were engaged.  Big Juicy is locked up with no one, looking side to side, the guy shoots the LG-C gap, and Juicy just doesn't even see him.  How the fuck do you do that, dude?

Colon's a travesty at RT.  When he's not beaten by speed, he beats himself with dumbass penalties.

Staples seems to have started well and settled into mediocrity.

Starks, who everybody now loves, still just gets beat off the edge way too often.

I dunno, 46, 47 sacks each of the past three years, how does that not scream "PROBLEM" to Colbert?
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« Reply #10 on: Jan 23, 2009 at 11:58 »

Maybe if Ben started shoving Colbert to the ground hard each time he walks by, he'll begin to get the idea.
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« Reply #11 on: Jan 23, 2009 at 12:47 »

Well, they ARE better--but "better" relative to what?  If the Lions go 1-15 next year, they'll be "better," but they'll still suck. 

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Starks, who everybody now loves, still just gets beat off the edge way too often.

That play where he got smoked by Suggs was just brutal.  No offense to a guy who played hurt, but I could've made that sack.  He just let Suggs basically stroll by him, waved at him as he went by.  All he has to do is slow him up for ONE SECOND and Ben could have scrambled away.  It was just plain lack of effort and concentration, and there is no excuse for that on the NFL level.


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« Reply #12 on: Jan 23, 2009 at 13:15 »

To make matters worse, didn't the Ravens only rush 3 on that play?
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« Reply #13 on: Jan 23, 2009 at 13:38 »

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To make matters worse, didn't the Ravens only rush 3 on that play?

Yes!  angry4 angry5 cussing tickedoff

At least Colon tries, I can rarely fault his effort.  Now if we could get someone with talent AND effort, that would make me feel better.
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« Reply #14 on: Jan 23, 2009 at 16:11 »

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I'll be tempted to find Colbert and kick his teeth in.

He used to live a few doors down from my dad in Cranberry. KC has probably moved since, but perhaps he's still kickin' it in Treesdale. Check for him there. #5 fairway.
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« Reply #15 on: Jan 23, 2009 at 22:46 »

Mel Kiper's first round

Pick  Team   Player    Position    College
32 Pittsburgh - Alex Mack C California

I wouldn't complain about that. I'd rather see an OT, but if he's the best talent available, then so be it.

I like the red, highlighted part, and could almost barely give a hoot what comes after that red-highlighted part.  If you can win a championship with our current OL, you can win one with just about any OL.
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« Reply #16 on: Jan 24, 2009 at 17:13 »

Mel Kiper's first round

Pick  Team   Player    Position    College
32 Pittsburgh - Alex Mack C California

I wouldn't complain about that. I'd rather see an OT, but if he's the best talent available, then so be it.

I like the red, highlighted part, and could almost barely give a hoot what comes after that red-highlighted part.  If you can win a championship with our current OL, you can win one with just about any OL.

Thanks to the defense this team could have probably went 9-7 without even fielding an offense. The team won in spite of, not because of, the shitty line. I don't know about you, but I'd rather Ben not be in a wheelchair at 30 thanks to these hacks.

Draft O-linemen. Repeat.
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« Reply #17 on: Jan 26, 2009 at 06:42 »

If that holds to form, then I'm hoping that we'll put something together to move up five spots for Oher.  I think the guy is way undervalued, but I guess we'll have to see how it goes at the combine. 

In my typical Furman Homer form, I'll also lobby that we may be able to pick up a late-round find.  Joel Bell, 6-7, 315 left tackle.  Talk around here is that he is one of the most "gifted" athletes that no one ever heard of, and could certainly be a diamond in the rough for us.

Sounds good.

My homer pick of the year is none other than....Patrick White, QB, The West Virginia University. DARFT PAT WITE!!!!1111 Plus he has grown up in Alabama as a Steeler fan.

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« Reply #18 on: Jan 26, 2009 at 09:36 »

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My homer pick of the year is none other than....Patrick White, QB, The West Virginia University. DARFT PAT WITE!!!!1111 Plus he has grown up in Alabama as a Steeler fan.

Where is he hoping to play as a pro?  Meaning, is he more ARE (I'll play any position) or Krodell Seward (I KNOW I'm a QB!)?
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« Reply #19 on: Jan 26, 2009 at 10:02 »

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My homer pick of the year is none other than....Patrick White, QB, The West Virginia University. DARFT PAT WITE!!!!1111 Plus he has grown up in Alabama as a Steeler fan.

Where is he hoping to play as a pro?  Meaning, is he more ARE (I'll play any position) or Krodell Seward (I KNOW I'm a QB!)?

I think he will do whatever it takes, but his hope is to be a QB. He was MVP of the Senior Bowl at the QB position, take that for what it's worth. I know it is a long shot, especially with Dixon in the fold, but hey, that is what homerism is all about right  headbang
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