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« on: Jan 28, 2009 at 12:04 »

Stole this info from a site that stole it from another site.  The formatting blows and there isn't a ton of detail, but it gives you some specific numbers as to players' heights/weights with a few first impression type comments.

FYI, their height is given as a four digit number.  The first digit is feet; the next two digits are inches; and the last digit is in eighths (sp?) of an inch.  For example, the first player, Rhett Bomar is 6' 02 1/8".

I can also get the defensive numbers too, if people are interested.

EDIT:  Oh yeah, some of the comments are kinda amusing; particularly for some of the O-linemen.

OFFENSE

 A B C D E F G H I J K L M N
1 Player Height Weight Hand Arm Note on Body Type
 2  QB
 3  Rhett Bomar 6021 224 9 1/4 31 1/2 Ripped, good arms
 4  Nathan Brown 6005 217 9 1/8 30 1/2 Average physique
 5  Cullen Harper 6026 227 9 1/2 30 1/2 Big legs, flabby, overweight
 6  Graham Harrell 6020 217 9 1/2 31 1/4 Below average, thin.
 7  Pat White 6000 190 9 1/8 32 3/4 Angular, low body fat, V-shape.
 8  J.P. Wilson 6014 215 9 3/8 31 Typical QB body
 9 
  10  RB
 11  Andre Brown 6002 224 9 1/2 32 Cut, beautiful upper body, huge biceps
 12  James Davis 5906 207 10 1/8 30 1/2 Solid build with room to bulk
 13  Arian Foster 6004 232 9 7/8 33 Unimpressive, overweight
 14  Rashad Jennings 6010 234 9 7/8 32 1/2 Muscular, great back and abs, very impressive
 15  Jeremiah Johnson 5086 198 9 1/4 30 1/2 Cut with strong legs
 16  Cedric Peerman 5093 210 7 7/8 30 1/2 Huge, very bulky, proportional
 17  Kory Sheets 5111 203 9 1/4 30 3/4 Defined and compact build
 18 
  19  FB
  20  Quinn Johnson 6006 251 10 1/4 32 1/4 Solid
  21  Eric Kettani 5115 231 9 1/2 29 3/4 Unimpressive but nice biceps
  22  Tony Fiammetta 5117 246 9 3/8 30 1/2 Huge arms and thick, muscular legs
 23 
 24  Player Height Weight Hand Arm Note on Body Type
 25  WR
26  Ramses Barden 6060 227 9 7/8 32 1/4 Muscular, solid, thick, strong abs
 27  Quan Cosby 5086 191 9 1/4 30 Angular, somewhat overweight
 28  Brooks Foster 6005 204 9 1/2 31 1/2 Great, nice chest
 29  Brandon Gibson 6003 204 9 3/8 31 3/4 Basketball body, average
 30  Juaquin Iglesias 6005 204 9 3/4 30 5/8
 31  Mohamed Massaquoi 6013 210 9 3/4 32 1/2 Defined, impressive, room to bulk
32  Kenny McKinley 5115 182 8 3/4 30 1/2 Small biceps, very thin
33  Brian Robiskie 6027 207 9 5/8 31 1/8 Nice V-cut, Angular
34  Mike Thomas 5080 187 9 1/4 31 Ripped, cut
35  Patrick Turner 6051 221 9 3/8 33 Big arms, muscular, cut
 36  Mike Wallace 6001 189 9 33 3/4 Average, good proportions
 37  Derrick Williams 5112 197 9 31 Cut and defined
 38 
 39  TE
 40  Anthony Hill 6051 264 10 33 5/8 Ripped, big biceps, long arms
 41  Travis McCall 6020 276 9 1/4 33 Flabby, fat butt
 42  Shawn Nelson 6046 238 10 1/8 34 1/8 Average, long arms
 43  Brandon Pettigrew 6052 257 10 1/2 34 3/4 Low body fat, cut, not great
 44  John Phillips 6053 251 10 1/8 34 Average, big biceps
 45 
 46  Player Height Weight Hand Arm Note on Body Type
 47 OL
 48  William Beatty 6060 291 10 1/8 34 1/2 Thin, flabby, very unimpressive
 49  Antoine Caldwell 6033 307 10 3/8 33 3/4 Soft, flabby, unimpressive
 50  Trevor Canfield 6044 311 9 1/4 31 Heavy, wide shoulders
 51  Xavier Fulton 6044 301 10 1/8 33 Carries weight well, scrawny forearms
 52  Tyrone Green 6015 305 10 1/2 33 Flabby, doesn't carry weight well
 53  Herman Johnson 6073 382 11 1/4 36 Small boobs, carries weight extremely well, vine arms
 54  Troy Kropog 6053 316 10 1/4 33 1/4 Okay, saggy, small arms
 55  Andy Levitre 6023 306 9 3/8 32 3/4 Fire hidrant build, gut, flabby
 56  Jonathan Luigs 6033 302 9 1/4 31 3/4 Big lower body, impessive back
 57  Phil Loadholt 6080 343 9 7/8 36 1/2 Carries weight well, thick/long arms
 58  Alex Mack 6041 312 10 5/8 33 1/4 Average
 59  Michael Oher 6050 309 10 1/4 33 1/4 Carries weight well, huge thighs, solid
 60  Anthony Parker 6017 310 10 34 1/2 Terrible, gut, flabby, high body fat
 61  Ryan Shuman 6026 300 8 7/8 31 1/2 Wide base, heavy, not muscular
 62  Max Unger 6046 299 9 3/8 32 1/2 Little gut, Average
 63  Kraig Urbik 6053 323 10 1/4 33 1/2 Room to bulk up and fairly impressive
 64  Jason Watkins 6060 317 10 1/8 33 3/4 Solid, good abs, man boobs
 65  Eric Wood 6041 304 10 1/8 33 Solid with some muscle definition

DEFENSE
69  Player Height Weight Hand Arm Note on Body Type         
70  DT             
71  Ron Brace 6030 329 9 5/8 33 3/4 Man boobs, flabby, heavy         
72  Cody Brown 6021 242 10 33 3/4 Nice upper body, good bulk         
73  Ziggy Hood 6031 298 9 7/8 33 1/4 Carries wight well         
74  Corey Irvin 6030 296 9 3/4 34 Not muscular, has a gut         
75  Peria Jerry 6015 290 9 3/8 32 1/4 Flabby, gut, bad love handles         
76  Mitch King 6014 275 10 31 Wide shoulders, bad arms         
77  Fili Moala 6042 303 10 33 3/4 Unimpressive, huge back, thick arms         
78  B.J. Raji 6015 334 10 1/4 31 1/4 Overweight, gut, man boobs         
79  Vance Walker 6020 295 11 1/8 33 7/8 Unimpressive, thick, huge butt         
80               
81  DE             
82  Robert Ayers 6031 273 9 7/8 32 1/4 Muscular, solid, thick, strong abs         
83  Connor Barwin 6033 253 9 7/8 33 Top heavy, good abs         
84  Will Davis 6023 262 9 3/4 31 5/8 Average         
85  Larry English 6021 254 9 3/4 32 1/4 Nice quads and back         
86  Tim Jamison 6025 265 9 3/8 33 1/2 Not muscular, wide legs         
87  Kyle Moore 6046 265 9 1/2 33 3/4 Solid build, room for bulk         
88  Lawrence Sidbury 6023 267 10 1/2 35 Arms are vines, big thighs         
89  David Veikune 6022 255 10 1/4 32 3/4 Overweight, flabby         
90               
91  Player Height Weight Hand Arm Note on Body Type         
92  LB             
93  Darry Beckwith 6003 233 9 7/8 32 Muscular, thick, defined         
94  Brian Cushing 6031 243 9 7/8 31 3/4 Huge, ripped, action figure body         
95  Moise Fokou 6011 228 10 1/4 33 7/8 Well built, long arms, thighs         
96  Zack Follett 6016 231 9 1/4 30 1/2 Skinny arms, srawny         
97  Clay Matthews 6030 246 9 3/8 32 Impressive and strong         
98  Rey Maualuga 6017 254 10 31 5/8 Unimpressive, not ripped         
99  Tyrone McKenzie 6017 244 9 7/8 33 1/4 Muscular, strong/thick lower body         
100  Scott McKillop 6010 243 9 7/8 9 5/8 Spider tattoo on back Huh?, solid build         
101  Ashlee Palmer 6014 223 10 32 3/4 Ripped, defined, Impressive         
102  Clint Sintim 6025 249 9 7/8 33 Huge arms, built, thick         
103               
104               
105               
106  K             
107  Louie Sakoda 5084 171 8 3/8 28 1/2 Cut, skinny, kicker body         
108  Thomas Morstead 6042 228 9 1/8 32 3/4 Ripped, defined, impressive         
109  P             
110  Kevin Huber 6007 221 9 1/8 30 1/2 Average         
111  Pat McAfee 5114 228 9 1/4 30 1/4 Defined, big shoulders         
112  LS             
113  Mark Estermyer 6006 247 9 7/8 30 5/8 Average         
114  Player Height Weight Hand Arm Note on Body Type         
115  S             
116  David Bruton 6016 210 10 34 Huge, built, big back, low body fat         
117  Patrick Chung 5111 207 9 31 Cut, good arms         
118  Louis Delmas 5112 197 9 3/8 31 3/4 Long legs, scrawny         
119  Michael Hamlin 6020 207 9 1/2 31 3/4 Okay, unimpressive         
120  Nic Harris 6020 233 10 32 5/8 Well built, back, compact         
121  Rashad Johnson 5114 195 9 30 7/8 Wow, great abs and back         
122  Sherrod Martin 6006 197 8 1/2 30 3/4 Ripped, good abs, low body fat         
123  William Moore 6001 223 9 1/8 31 3/4 Low body fat, but unimpressive abs         
124  Derek Pegues 5093 193 9 31 3/4 Angular, good abs, muscular         
125  Chip Vaughn 6010 218 9 3/8 31 1/2 Thick, solid, nice back         
126               
127  CB             
128  Darius Butler 5101 178 9 5/8 31 3/4 Cut, athletic         
129  Coye Francis 6002 179 8 7/8 31 1/2 Top heavy, okay         
130  Macho Harris 5107 186 9 31 3/8 Angular, small arms         
131  Ellis Lankster 5091 191 8 1/2 30 1/2 Small, big triceps, defined         
132  Keenan Lewis 6005 198 9 3/4 32 3/4 Impressive, built, Great abs         
133  Mike Mickens 5110 176 9 3/4 31 1/2 Average, small arms         
134  Alphonso Smith 5087 193 9 5/8 31 Solid         
135  DeAngelo Smith 5104 194 29 1/2 9 1/8 Unimpressive, cut calves         
136  Domonique Johnson 6014 192 9 3/4 32 Angular, low body fat, long arms

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« Reply #1 on: Jan 28, 2009 at 12:09 »

12  James Davis 5906 207 10 1/8 30 1/2 Solid build with room to bulk

5' 90" DAMN...he should be a WR, not a RB!
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« Reply #2 on: Jan 28, 2009 at 12:48 »

26  Ramses Barden 6060 227 9 7/8 32 1/4 Muscular, solid, thick, strong abs

35  Patrick Turner 6051 221 9 3/8 33 Big arms, muscular, cut


I think either of these guys could be worth a 4th, 5th or later round flier depending on how they work out at the Combine.  Both are athletic, big dudes with decent hands who don't have the best "timed speed."  FWIW, they said the same thing about Boldin.

I'd prefer a guy like Turner because he comes from a bigtime program (USC).  You'd expect him to be less wide-eyed about the whole playing on Sunday thing, but Barden put up some pretty impressive numbers at 1-AA Cal Poly.

Late round gems?

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« Reply #3 on: Jan 28, 2009 at 13:04 »

Quote from: NFLDS
Ramses Barden, WR, Cal Poly
 
 Name: Ramses Barden
Compares to: Maurice Stovall (Notre Dame/2006/Rd 3/TB)
College: Cal Poly     Number: 11
Height: 6-6   Weight: 227
Position: WR  Pos2: TE/H-back  Class/Draft Year: rSr/2009
40 Low: 4.50  40 Time: 4.59   40 High: 4.68

Projected Round: 3-4      Stock:
Rated number 14 out of 341 WR's     114 / 2661 TOTAL 
 
 Combine Results  Pro Day Results
Combine Invite: Yes
Height: 6060
Weight: 227
40 Yrd Dash:
20 Yrd Dash:
10 Yrd Dash:   225 Lb. Bench Reps:
Vertical Jump:
Broad Jump:
20 Yrd Shuttle:
3-Cone Drill:


 Dates: 
Height: 6060
Weight: 227
40 Yrd Dash:
20 Yrd Dash:
10 Yrd Dash:   225 Lb. Bench Reps:
Vertical Jump:
Broad Jump:
20 Yrd Shuttle:
3-Cone Drill:

 
   
 
 Draft Scout Snapshot: DS Rating on 8/24/08: #17 WR, #139/750 Overall, Projected Rnd: 5
2007: 11 GP; 11 GS; Rec: 57-1467-25.7-18; AFCA FCS All-American, First team All-Great West...2006: 11 GP; 11 GS; Rec: 42-824-19.6-5; Led the team in receiving for the second straight year, catching 42 passes for 824 yards and five touchdowns ... his 824 receiving yards is No. 10 all time for a single season at Cal Poly ... first-team All-Great West Football Conference selection ... College Sporting News Fabulous Fifty All-American ... 2005: 13 GP; 13 GS; Rec: 40-655-16.4-9; Caught a team-leading 40 passes for 655 yards and nine touchdowns en route to first-team All-Great West Football Conference honors ... twice caught 48-yarders, one each against Montana and Eastern Washington, catching two touchdowns in each game ... career-high nine receptions against Southern Utah ... used his 6-6 height to block pair of field goal attempts against South Dakota State and North Dakota State...2004: Redshirt. 
 
 Overview

 
Scouts who hadn't seen Barden play until his Mustangs took on annual Big Ten contender Wisconsin in Madison late in 2008 were pleasantly surprised by his skills. He has won numerous All-American and all-conference accolades, but production at the FCS level (122 catches for 2,724 yards - a 21.9-yard average - and 36 touchdowns the past two seasons) does not always translate to NFL success. But he proved himself more than just a tall jump-ball threat against the Badgers, and teams took notice. If he's not a first-day pick, his name should be called early Sunday morning.



 
 
 Analysis

 
Positives: Dominated FCS competition with his height and strong overall build. His long strides give him deceptive downfield speed. Takes advantage of soft coverage with receiver screens and short patterns, and has better foot quickness than expected for his size. Makes quick moves at the line to get off a jam. Able to snatch the ball with his hands, secure it and quickly turn to get additional yardage. A strong red-zone and jump-ball target due to his height, length and size. Uses his hands well while blocking on the outside, will be an asset in the run game.

Negatives: Lacks the straight-line speed to get separation from top corners, and must be more consistent using his length to create last-second separation as the ball arrives. Inconsistent hands on jump balls, where he always has the advantage. Played most of his games against a lower level of competition. Does not have the open-field quickness to evade NFL corners on the edge. Tackled easier than you'd expect because of his high pad level. Must use his size better to latch onto smaller corners when run blocking.
 
 
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« Reply #4 on: Jan 28, 2009 at 13:05 »

Less info on the SC guy...

Quote from: NFLDS
Patrick Turner, WR, Southern Cal
 
 Name: Patrick Turner
Compares to: Marcus Monk (Arkansas/2008/Rd 7/Chi)
College: Southern Cal     Number: 1
Height: 6-5   Weight: 221
Position: WR  Pos2:   Class/Draft Year: Sr/2009
40 Low: 4.54  40 Time: 4.65   40 High: 4.74

Projected Round: 5      Stock:
Rated number 19 out of 341 WR's     159 / 2661 TOTAL 
 
 Combine Results  Pro Day Results
Combine Invite: Yes
Height: 6051
Weight: 221
40 Yrd Dash:
20 Yrd Dash:
10 Yrd Dash:   225 Lb. Bench Reps:
Vertical Jump:
Broad Jump:
20 Yrd Shuttle:
3-Cone Drill:


 Dates: 
Height: 6051
Weight: 221
40 Yrd Dash:
20 Yrd Dash:
10 Yrd Dash:   225 Lb. Bench Reps:
Vertical Jump:
Broad Jump:
20 Yrd Shuttle:
3-Cone Drill:

 
   
 
 Draft Scout Snapshot: DS Rating on 8/24/08: #43 WR, #344/750 Overall, Projected Rnd: FA
2007: 11 GP; 10 GS; Rec: 48-569-11.9-3; 1 Sol-1 TT, 1 FF; Turner started at both wideout spots (3 early-season games at flanker and 7 contests at split end) in his 2007 junior season. Overall in 2007 while appearing in 11 games (all but Idaho and Illinois) and starting 10 times (all but Idaho and UCLA), he had 48 receptions for 569 yards (11.9 avg.) with 3 touchdowns. He also had a tackle and a forced fumble. He was a 2007 Phil Steele's All-Pac-10 honorable mention pick. He missed the Idaho game after suffering a stinger in 2007 fall camp and the Illinois game with a thigh bruise suffered in practice...2006: 13 GP; 2 GS; Rec: 29-272-9.4-2; Turner saw significant action as a sophomore backup wide receiver in 2006. Overall in 2006 while appearing in all 13 games (he even started the Washington State and Washington games), he caught 29 passes for 272 yards (9.4 avg.) with 2 TDs. He also made 2 tackles and threw an incomplete pass (off a reverse against Nebraska)...2005: 12 GP; 0 GS; Rec: 12-170-14.2-2; Turner served as an often-used backup wide receiver as a first-year freshman in 2005. Overall in 2005 while appearing in 12 games (all but UCLA), he had 12 catches for 170 yards (14.2 avg.) with 2 TDs. He strained his right hamstring against Fresno State and missed the UCLA game. 


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« Reply #5 on: Jan 28, 2009 at 17:49 »

Andre Brown 6002 224 9 1/2 32 Cut, beautiful upper body, huge biceps


Only a nurse can have this kind of insight into a person's physique.  A male nurse.  Who knows a big, beefy guy when he sees one.
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