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« on: Feb 18, 2009 at 16:09 »

Jets | Washington to visit Wednesday
Wed, 18 Feb 2009 13:11:32 -0800

Adam Schefter, of the NFL Network, reports free-agent WR Kelley Washington (Patriots) is scheduled to meet with the New York Jets Wednesday, Feb. 18.

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« Reply #1 on: Feb 18, 2009 at 20:31 »

On a more serious post about Nate Washington...

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/2009/02/notes-from-lombardi-free-agent-wrs/

2nd best FA WR???  I didn't realize he's only 25.
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« Reply #2 on: Feb 18, 2009 at 20:48 »

I think Ant Bryant is getting the franchise tag.  Makes Nate the top by default.

I'd prefer the Steelers re-sign Washington than any of their other FAs, 'cept maybe McF (though I expect McF's $$$ demands to be much more difficult to meet than Washington's).

For as many passes as Nate drops, Ben seems to underthrow him as often.  Nate has greatly improved his blocking.

Ward is a FA at the end of next year.

Dev. Henderson could be a nice add if Nate leaves.
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« Reply #3 on: Feb 19, 2009 at 08:31 »

On a more serious post about Nate Washington...

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/2009/02/notes-from-lombardi-free-agent-wrs/

2nd best FA WR???  I didn't realize he's only 25.


Gawd, I'm so tempted to post this link on the Bengals ESPN board.  It would just eat at them to see Nate ranked above Housh...
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« Reply #4 on: Feb 19, 2009 at 09:05 »

On a more serious post about Nate Washington...

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/2009/02/notes-from-lombardi-free-agent-wrs/

2nd best FA WR???  I didn't realize he's only 25.


Gawd, I'm so tempted to post this link on the Bengals ESPN board.  It would just eat at them to see Nate ranked above Housh...


It's about upside.  Housh is what, 31?  Nate's 25.  This assumes Nate will ever grab more than about half of the balls thrown his way.  I lie the kid, would love to see him stick and compete here, and he's the best #3 we've had in some time (remember Lee Mays?).  But I think Housh will get a better deal despite his age because of his productivity and hands.  Is his game predicated on speed, or is he more a Ward kinda guy, tough and crafty?  I say the latter.  I don't think he's a fit here, but for the Eagles, or Seahawks, yeah.

Frankly, I don't much like these FA WRs.  I don't know that Baker (or Nance) will ever really hit it in the bigs, but Sweed is certainly someone I think can come in this year.  Getting him that early experience, even those devastating drops, will help him in the long term.  His strength coming out of Texas was those hands, so when these beat reporters gleefully say he was dropping everything in practice, too, remember that a lot of that's in his head.  It takes a year, sometimes two.

So what we're looking at is getting someone in for that year or two, to push Sweed, and maybe take the #3 spot for a while.  Not a lot of guys will want to do that: if they were #3s, they'll be looking for more action.

IMO, Nate gets more money elsewhere, we sign a late rounder for the slot/KR, and maybe we bring in a cheap FA like Shaun MacDonald. 
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« Reply #5 on: Feb 19, 2009 at 09:26 »

Hines, Ton', Washington, Sweed (giving him another year to develop as our 4th WR)... pretty good receiving corps.
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« Reply #6 on: Feb 19, 2009 at 09:42 »

I talked to Nate's uncle the day before the Super Bowl. At least he said he was Nate's uncle and had the Steelers guest pass. He only looked to be about 10 years older than Nate.

He said Nate wants to stay with the Steelers, but what else would a guy say? Get me the fuck off this Super Bowl team?
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« Reply #7 on: Feb 19, 2009 at 09:59 »

I haven't been a big fan of Nate, but sheesh...looking at the available options, we could certainly do worse. 

Maybe we have to take our chances with Sweed next year.  So be it.  I wouldn't want us to spend a lot of money on any of the guys on that list.
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« Reply #8 on: Feb 19, 2009 at 11:10 »

I think Nate is gone, and good for him.  I do not think he will get ARE money, but he will get paid.

That leaves us with

86  Ward, Hines  WR  6-0  205  3/8/76  12  Georgia 
10  Holmes, Santonio  WR_  5-11  192  3/3/84  4  Ohio State 
14  Sweed, Limas  WR_  6-4  220  12/25/84  2  Texas 
81  Baker, Dallas  WR_  6-3  206  11/10/82  2  Florida 
 ?? Williams, Brandon  WR_  5-11  170  2/24/84  4  Wisconsin

Does anyone think that Dallas and Limas can platoon as the number 3/4 receiver?


Secondly Nate does have the speed to stretch the field, who will replace that?
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« Reply #9 on: Feb 19, 2009 at 11:32 »

SING CEDRIC "THE ENTERTAINER" WILSON!!!!
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« Reply #10 on: Feb 19, 2009 at 11:45 »

Holmes has the speed.

Hell, Sweed got downfield nicely, but he needs to get his head connected to his hands.

That last guy on your list is a longshot KR at best.
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« Reply #11 on: Feb 19, 2009 at 12:05 »

If Nate walks, god forbid Hines or Santonio get hurt, or both.

What do we do then? Hand the ball of 40 times in a game like in 1974?
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« Reply #12 on: Feb 19, 2009 at 12:27 »

If Nate walks, god forbid Hines or Santonio get hurt, or both.

What do we do then? Hand the ball of 40 times in a game like in 1974?

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« Reply #13 on: Feb 19, 2009 at 13:17 »

If Nate walks, god forbid Hines or Santonio get hurt, or both.

What do we do then? Hand the ball of 40 times in a game like in 1974?

I would like to see the Steelers SING Nate, but they cannot break the bank on him. Too many other guys that need SINGED.

Now. THAT is insight  yeehaw
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« Reply #14 on: Feb 19, 2009 at 14:04 »

Don't sing any O-lineman but pick up Housh and resing Nate.  Every play go 5 wide with Miller at TE.  Holmes, Nate and Sweed going deep, Housh, Ward, and Heat on short/intermediate routes.  Even on an obvious passing down, I don't think there is a "D" out there that could cover them.
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« Reply #15 on: Feb 19, 2009 at 16:51 »

BTW, Brinker, Sweed should be able to stretch the field.  I looked up is Combine #s, and he ran a 4.48 40.  Not bad.
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« Reply #16 on: Feb 19, 2009 at 17:09 »

but pick up Housh
No way the fans would embrace the man who cleaned his cleats with the towel...








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« Reply #17 on: Feb 19, 2009 at 17:59 »

No way the fans would embrace the man who cleaned his cleats with the towel...

Housh is damaged goods.  There is no way he would have any success on the Steelers with that TT curse hanging over his head.
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« Reply #18 on: Feb 20, 2009 at 00:44 »

Gawd, I'm so tempted to post this link on the Bengals ESPN board.  It would just eat at them to see Nate ranked above Housh...


sorry to interrupt serious Nate talk (I don't think he's going anywhere - esp. since Otis talked to his "uncle") but can we from now on refer to the man as Doush not Housh....not only did he stomp on the illustrious towel, he actually tries to have long hair in this league.  There's only room for one superman.
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« Reply #19 on: Feb 20, 2009 at 05:43 »

I was always partial to "T. J. Terrorist."

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« Reply #20 on: Feb 20, 2009 at 10:36 »

I prefer Whosyamomma.
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« Reply #21 on: Feb 20, 2009 at 11:47 »



Championship!!
 

That is stilll hilarious


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« Reply #22 on: Feb 20, 2009 at 12:45 »

I worked on that commercial.  it is funny...
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« Reply #23 on: Feb 20, 2009 at 13:27 »

I worked on that commercial.  it is funny...

So, how much time is spent shooting that, a 30 second spot?  Say, setting up, makeup, etc., but not editing, sound and such.  Is that a day or what?
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« Reply #24 on: Feb 20, 2009 at 14:35 »

I lie the kid, would love to see him stick and compete here, and he's the best #3 we've had in some time (remember Lee Mays?). 

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« Reply #25 on: Feb 20, 2009 at 14:51 »

Nate #2 on that list?  Ahead of more worthy players like Housh, Henderson or even Bryant (to name a few)?

LSHTPICOMN!!!

I'm sorry. 

Suspect hands; makes the miracle grab, while dropping countless easy ones; despite his speed, has a hard time getting open unless it's a "juke and go" where the defender stumbles or makes a bad read; if there's a defender anywhere in his vicinity, he isn't making the catch; hardly ever fights for the ball and comes down with it.

He's an OK #3 option, but nothing more.  Teams looking to sign him to be a major contributor will be very disappointed.

Henderson is basically a beefier version of Washington.  Also has inconsistent hands, but at least he does a better job of attacking passes.  Washington let's too many get to his body and I think that's why he has a lot of drops.  Henderson, OTOH, uses his hands more/better while trying to make the catch.  About as young and probably would come much, much cheaper than Nate.  Think he did some work on returns somewhere along the way too.
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« Reply #26 on: Feb 20, 2009 at 15:16 »

No no no no  - we are not making an effort to score on kick-offs.  That is freakin crazy talk.  We are singing Duce this year to return kicks.  He can down the ball in his gray sweats.
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« Reply #27 on: Feb 20, 2009 at 15:40 »

I worked on that commercial.  it is funny...

So, how much time is spent shooting that, a 30 second spot?  Say, setting up, makeup, etc., but not editing, sound and such.  Is that a day or what?


I work in editing and wasn't involved in the shooting but it was part of a 5 spot thing and the footage came in over a couple of days but the planning was at least a month (casting, set design, etc.).  the actual shooting is pretty quick but on average for 30 seconds we get at least 1/1.5 hours of footage, sometimes more depending on the director and his confidence level (no confidence = 70 takes of the same line - from all angles- not kidding).  I liked that one and the one that showed some guys in Scotland playing football with a rock and inventing flag football because a kilt ripped off while getting tackled....

as for the editing, it usually takes a few weeks from beginning to end because of the levels of approval through the agency bureaucracy.  Because of these levels and the clients being afraid, the spots usually get watered down and defunnied.  Surprisingly the Doushmanzadeh spot made it through unscathed...


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