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« on: Feb 26, 2009 at 11:20 »

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The Pittsburgh Penguins have cleared up a bit of their log jam along the blue line as they have sent Ryan Whitney to the Anaheim Ducks for Chris Kunitz and Eric Tangradi.

The 26-year old Whitney was a vital piece of the Penguins' Stanley Cup run last year; however foot surgery caused him to miss the first 31 games of the season.

The Boston-native is one of the better puck moving defencemen in the league and should be a big boost to the Ducks power play. He became deemed surplus goods when fellow defenceman and Penguins' primary powerplay quarterback Sergei Gonchar returned a shoulder injury.

Whitney is in the second year of a six-year contract he signed with the Penguins last season. He was chosen fifth overall by the Penguins in the 2002 NHL Entry Draft.

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I gotta say, I like it. It losens up the logjamb at D and I like Kunitz.
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« Reply #1 on: Feb 26, 2009 at 11:21 »

Trib link...

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/breaking/s_613565.html
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« Reply #2 on: Feb 26, 2009 at 11:34 »

The book on Eric Tangradi

DOB: Feb 10, 1989
Place of Birth: Philadelphia, PA, USA
HT: 6-3 WT: 214
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Drafted by Anaheim in 2007 (2/42)

07/08 OHL stats: 24 G - 36 A - 56 games
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« Reply #3 on: Feb 26, 2009 at 11:42 »

Huh.  Don't know much about Kunitz, but I thought they'd get more for Whitney.  Where does this Tangredi kid stand as a prospect?
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« Reply #4 on: Feb 26, 2009 at 11:53 »

Huh.  Don't know much about Kunitz, but I thought they'd get more for Whitney.  Where does this Tangredi kid stand as a prospect?

I just read on hockeybuzz.com that he immediately becomes the Pens top prospect.

I like the deal in the fact that it frees up room for Goligoski to return to the team and Tangredi has some size that this organization is desperately lacking. Kunitz is 2 years removed from a 25 goal season is a + player and played on Anaheim's top line. This isn't the trade that puts us into the playoffs but Shero isn't sitting on his hands either.
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« Reply #5 on: Feb 26, 2009 at 11:58 »

Huh.  Don't know much about Kunitz, but I thought they'd get more for Whitney.  Where does this Tangredi kid stand as a prospect?

I just read on hockeybuzz.com that he immediately becomes the Pens top prospect.

I like the deal in the fact that it frees up room for Goligoski to return to the team and Tangredi has some size that this organization is desperately lacking. Kunitz is 2 years removed from a 25 goal season is a + player and played on Anaheim's top line. This isn't the trade that puts us into the playoffs but Shero isn't sitting on his hands either.

And Kunitz is under contract 'til '11, according to the trib.  That's a bonus.
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« Reply #6 on: Feb 26, 2009 at 12:28 »

I'm more impressed with grabbing Tangradi than I am Kunitz, particularly after seeing Tangradi's junior numbers...

GP G A Pts PIM
2006-07 OHL 65 5 15 20 32
2007-08 OHL 56 24 36 60 41
2008-09 OHL 52 38 49 87 57

He also has some decent size. Second to only Tavares in points in the OHL.

As for Kunitz, he can score, but he's very much like Cheechoo. You have to pair the guy with a top notch player (Crosby). If you don't, he's going to be average. Back when the Ducks won the cup he was on the "Kid Line" with Getzlaf and Perry. Unfortunately since then, he has been bumped up and down the lines too much. He's also not too bad on the PP.
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« Reply #7 on: Feb 26, 2009 at 12:32 »

Love this move. Whitney's stock was dropping every game. He was just terrible. Kunitz is a solid player with Cup experience. He is definitely an upgrade over any winger we have currently on our roster (except maybe Sykora). I think Kunitz would fit very nicely with Sid or Geno on the first or 2nd line.

Don't know much about the prospect, but from what Captain Chaos has said, he looks pretty promising.

Will this move alone be enough to push us into the playoffs? Eh, maybe. But it certainly doesn't hurt our chances.

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« Reply #8 on: Feb 26, 2009 at 12:33 »

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« Reply #9 on: Feb 26, 2009 at 13:21 »

http://penguins.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=411196

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« Reply #10 on: Feb 26, 2009 at 13:29 »

Thanks and good luck Whits!

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« Reply #11 on: Feb 26, 2009 at 13:56 »

Whitney's stock was dropping every game. He was just terrible.

It has been dropping ever since last season (minus the cup finals).  Offensively, defensively...it really didn't matter.  He looked like hell at both ends of the ice.  Good riddance.

Back to Kunitz, another plus I have noticed about him is that he's not scared to throw down if need be.  A significant amount of fights I have seen from Kunitz were the result of Kunitz coming to the aid of a fellow teammate.  While he's no Laraque (nor should that be expected), that's good to have on a line with Crosby or Malkin.

Now for the offseason.  Get Gogo and Tanger signed long term, pick up another winger and a physical defenseman and we can call it a success.
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« Reply #12 on: Feb 26, 2009 at 14:31 »

Penguins send Whitney to Ducks
By Pierre LeBrun
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Archive The Pittsburgh Penguins added a quality forward to their lineup Thursday when they acquired Chris Kunitz and 20-year-old prospect Eric Tangradi from the Anaheim Ducks in exchange for offensive defenseman Ryan Whitney.

Penguins fans have been clamoring for GM Ray Shero to get a winger to play with Crosby. Mission accomplished, although Shero downplayed the fact it was specifically a player acquired to play with No. 87.

"He's a top six-forward, wherever the coach wants to play him, he'll play him," Shero told ESPN.com. "Kunitz is going to be a good player for us. I love the way he plays. He's got character, leadership, he'll play a little bigger role here than I think he did recently [in Anaheim].

"I've watched him forever and [Penguins coach] Dan Bylsma coached him [in the AHL] and played with him," added Shero. "He's a guy that can play with good players. He's got the speed, the hockey sense, the hands, we really like him."

The Penguins are currently on the outside looking in for a playoff spot with 66 points, two less than eighth-place Florida and Buffalo and one point behind Carolina. The key to the deal for Shero was that regardless of what happened this season, Kunitz is not a rental player since he has three more years on his deal.

"Yes that's very important," said Shero. "We looked around and looked around but we don't need rental guys. If I'm making a deal for Whitney, who has four more years on his deal, I need a guy in return who is signed. Kunitz has three more years which fits into where we are going. It's at the right price, too. We can't afford a $6 million or $7 million guy under our cap."

Kunitz, 29, will earn $3.6 million next season, $3.8 million in 2010-11 and $4 million in 2011-12. He won a Stanley Cup with Anaheim in 2007.

Tangradi, a Philadelphia native, is a highly-touted prospect who has 87 points (38 goals, 49 assists) in 52 games with the Ontario Hockey League's Belleville Bulls this season. Anaheim drafted him 42nd overall in 2007.

"I wasn't going to do the deal straight up, I think there's too much value in a defenseman signed for four more years, so I needed something else and Tangradi is a guy we really liked," said Shero. "He's very raw, he's got a ways to grow, he's a big kid with talent."

The Penguins had depth on the blue line and could afford to lose a good player like Whitney. They also had offers for Kris Letang and Alex Goligoski but decided to move Whitney.

Whitney, 26, has four more years on a new deal that pays him $3.5 million in 2009-10, $4.5 million in 2010-11, $5 million in 2011-12 and $5.5 million in 2012-13.

For the Ducks, meanwhile, it sets up an interesting situation with regard to either star defensemen Chris Pronger or Scott Niedermayer, as the team has been contemplating moving one of them. Pronger has another year left on his deal, while Niedermayer is an unrestricted free agent July 1 but hasn't decided whether he's playing again next season.

Ducks GM Bob Murray may move one of them by Wednesday's trade deadline, or he could wait until the NHL entry draft and include more bidders on Pronger. That's a decision that has yet to be made.

Either way, Murray has protected himself on the blue line in case he trades Pronger and Niedermayer retires.
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« Reply #13 on: Feb 26, 2009 at 21:05 »

I like the move. Although Whitney's stock is at an all time low, there was no guarantee he was going to return to form. Kunitz is at least a top 6 guy, and as has been mentioned in this thread, he will get  after people. He doesn't just fight other fighters, he fights people who fuck with his teammates. Perfect guy to pair with Crosby, with whom he has the potential to score 30 goals.

We traded from a position where we have a surplus, got a pretty good player where we have an extreme need, and got a good prospect who is raw but has a high ceiling, and didn't have to give up Letang or Goligoski. I say Shero deserves a high five for this one.
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« Reply #14 on: Feb 27, 2009 at 12:40 »

I like the move. Although Whitney's stock is at an all time low, there was no guarantee he was going to return to form. Kunitz is at least a top 6 guy, and as has been mentioned in this thread, he will get  after people. He doesn't just fight other fighters, he fights people who fuck with his teammates. Perfect guy to pair with Crosby, with whom he has the potential to score 30 goals.

We traded from a position where we have a surplus, got a pretty good player where we have an extreme need, and got a good prospect who is raw but has a high ceiling, and didn't have to give up Letang or Goligoski. I say Shero deserves a high five for this one.

That makes me feel better.  I want to believe Shero knows what he's doing and didn't just catch lightning in a bottle last year.
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« Reply #15 on: Feb 28, 2009 at 09:34 »

Pens win 5-4 over Hawks and Kunitz scores in his first game as Penguin.
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« Reply #16 on: Feb 28, 2009 at 09:50 »

Pens win 5-4 over Hawks and Kunitz scores in his first game as Penguin.

Of course I'm not going to complain about a much needed 2 points, but playoff/championship contenders don't give up 45 shots a game.

Great to see Kunitz getting off to a hot start. If anything, I feel better starting next year with him as one of our top 6.
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« Reply #17 on: Feb 28, 2009 at 16:10 »

Pens win 5-4 over Hawks and Kunitz scores in his first game as Penguin.

Of course I'm not going to complain about a much needed 2 points, but playoff/championship contenders don't give up 45 shots a game.

Great to see Kunitz getting off to a hot start. If anything, I feel better starting next year with him as one of our top 6.

I think it's safe to say that this team is far from being playoff/championship contenders. Bylsma's "system" although fun to watch, doesn't stress much defense. It's a "puck possession" system but if we don't have possession of the puck, look out. Kinda reminds me of Edzo's "system" or lack-there-of.

It's hard not to like that Blackhawks team. Man, do they have some skill. Wonder if Shero is regretting the Staal over Toews decision? He's one hell of a player and only 20. Can't imagine what he'll be like at 24-25. Cam Barker is what Ryan Whitney should be. If they had a top goaltender, they'd be scary-good.

I knew Kunitz was exactly the type of player this team was lacking. Had to laugh when Bob Errey said he's playing so well with Staal, they're going to need to keep looking for a wing to play with Sid.
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« Reply #18 on: Feb 28, 2009 at 17:09 »



Wonder if Shero is regretting the Staal over Toews decision? He's one hell of a player and only 20.


Only every morning when he looks in the mirror. At least he didn't compound the issue and make Staal untradable by giving him a 16 million dollar contract. Oh wait.
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« Reply #19 on: Mar 01, 2009 at 09:49 »

Of course I'm not going to complain about a much needed 2 points, but playoff/championship contenders don't give up 45 shots a game.

There is no doubt about that.  Nor do deep playoff/championship contenders fail miserably on the PP time and time again like we do every game.  This team needs more than Kunitz and a prospect to do anything significant this season.  They are still another physical defenseman and a scoring winger away from getting back to last seasons form.  Another gritty player wouldn't hurt.  I'm not sure if Shero is going to attempt to make those changes before March 4 or during the offseason. 

There are names flying around out there who we are supposedly interested in right now and these are two who stick out in my mind...

Chris Neil - This could be the gritty player we are looking for.  He won't bring you many goals, but neither did Roberts or Ruutu.  He would be just another piece of the puzzle and I wouldn't mind seeing him here at the right price.  It would be beautiful if they would take Satan off our hands.  His salary alone would probably not sell, nevermind his lackluster play all season long.  I have no idea what Ottawa is looking for in return, but I'm guessing we would probably have to throw in another player (Talbot/Kennedy).  Rumor is Neil is looking for a long-term deal worth $2.5 a year.

Alexander Frolov - The Ottawa Sun is reporting that the Penguins do have interest.  This would be the winger we are looking for when it comes to scoring goals on a Crosby line.  He's only 26 years old (lock him up long term first).  He is capable of netting you 35 goals and probably more playing on a line with Crosby.  He has the speed and finishing ability.  Stick handles with the best of them and has a underrated shot in my opinion.  With that said, one question remains, what are we going to have to give up to bring him here?  It's definately not going to be cheap.

Other names being thrown around out there...

Marty St. Louis: (I would rather have Frolov)
Milan Hejduk: (Too old and considering retirement after next season, a waste of money and bait if you ask me)
Ryan Smyth: (Too much money for not enough production.  He's getting around $6.0)
Ilya Kovalchuk: (It's not going to happen.  Waddell is not going to trade the only player he has)
Danny Healtey: (Anything is possible I guess?  I would love to see him here, but I strongly doubt it at his cost)







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« Reply #20 on: Mar 01, 2009 at 10:04 »

My guess is we're outbid for Neil.  What I've read says he's in high demand around the league. 

TIOPS says the Pens are interested in Lapierre from Colorado.  Meh but it does add some grit. 

Not interested in either other guy from Colorado for similar reasons.  Hejduk wasn't going to waive his NTC I thought? 


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« Reply #21 on: Mar 01, 2009 at 13:21 »

My guess is we're outbid for Neil.  What I've read says he's in high demand around the league. 

TIOPS says the Pens are interested in Lapierre from Colorado.  Meh but it does add some grit. 

Not interested in either other guy from Colorado for similar reasons.  Hejduk wasn't going to waive his NTC I thought?

I would rather pay the extra $1.5 and pick up a younger (35 compared to 29) and grittier Neil.  Although between the two, Laperriere tends to be the more disciplined player.  Still, I would rather see Neil.

DePaoli stated that Hejduk does not want to wave his NTC.  If true, I'm happy to hear that because I don't want any part of Hejduk.  Three-four years ago?  Sure.  Now?  I would pass.
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« Reply #22 on: Mar 04, 2009 at 07:26 »

Kunitz Update: 5 points in 3 games, including 3 goals.
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« Reply #23 on: Mar 16, 2009 at 16:56 »

Kunitz Update: 11 points in 9 games, including 5 goals and a plus/minus +5

Side Note: Crosby has 8 points over the last 4 games.  It's amazing what can happen when you replace names like Dupuis, Kennedy and Satan with names like Guerin and Kunitz.
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« Reply #24 on: Mar 16, 2009 at 23:55 »

Speaking of Kunitz and Guerin, good read in this mornings PG...

Kunitz, Guerin good fits on Crosby's line
Tuesday, March 17, 2009
By Dave Molinari, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Penguins coaches and management have spent much of the past four seasons seeking linemates to complement Sidney Crosby.

A worthy mission, to be sure, but there likely have been times when those guys wished they were searching for something a bit less elusive.

The lost continent of Atlantis, perhaps. Or maybe the Ark of the Covenant.

But general manager Ray Shero appears to have addressed the issue, at least for now, with the acquisition of Chris Kunitz and Bill Guerin, who have spent most of the past six games on Crosby's wings.

During that time, those three have combined for eight goals and 17 assists.

"We've been able to jell fairly quickly," Crosby said yesterday, "and that's a good sign."

His boss certainly thinks so.

"It's a work in progress, as everything is," interim coach Dan Bylsma said. "But I think I like what I see."

Enough that he'll deploy that unit again when Atlanta visits Mellon Arena at 7:38 p.m. today. And while the current configuration isn't necessarily a long-term solution -- remember, Guerin is 38 years old and will be an unrestricted free agent this summer -- the issue shouldn't be a front-burner concern for the balance of this season.

"I'm pretty happy with it," Bylsma said. "Sid has done a good job of battling and playing in straight lines and attacking, and these guys are gritty players who go to the net, as well as [being] straight-line players."

Marian Hossa remains the best linemate Crosby has had, but with Kunitz and Guerin flanking him, this likely is the best three-man unit he has been part of in the NHL. (Although Crosby did spend a little time with Mario Lemieux and Ziggy Palffy during his rookie season).

Kunitz, brought in from Anaheim, still is getting acclimated to working alongside Crosby, trying to get a feel for where he will go on the ice and what he'll do once he gets there.

"Sid's such a good player that it's tough to ... defensive people don't know where he's going, so it's tough to learn to read off him," Kunitz said.

Guerin, though, said the transition to Crosby's right side has been relatively smooth, likely a reflection of his 1,174 games of NHL experience.

"I don't find it tough to play with him," Guerin said. "I find it great to play with him. I love it.

"He's going to make something happen when he has the puck, and the more he has it on his stick, the better off we are."

Actually, when the puck ends up on Crosby's stick, there's a decent chance it will make its way onto Guerin's within a few seconds. The combination of Crosby's playmaking ability and Guerin's knack for finding the holes in defensive-zone coverages can be lethal for opponents.

"Billy is a big-time scorer, a big-time slot guy," Crosby said. "He finds those open areas. He knows where to go."

Guerin proved that 50 seconds into the Penguins' 6-4 victory against Boston Sunday, when he worked free just above the hash marks and, after taking a feed from Crosby, buried a shot behind Bruins goalie Tim Thomas.

Guerin's goal-scoring ability is an obvious asset for the line. Less obvious, but no less significant, is the stabilizing presence he provides.

"I like the mentality Billy offers," Bylsma said. "He's a veteran, he's patient about the game and knows to continually play the right way to get results, to not get too upset over one period or one shift. Just get back to what the line is trying to do, and what the team is trying to do."

Kunitz has 21 goals, including two in the Boston game, but his greatest value might be his willingness to do blue-collar work, to forecheck and operate along the boards and in other high-traffic areas.

"I go out there and do my role, go in straight lines and hit people and [get] pucks to my linemates," he said. "They brought me in here to do my thing, my game is to go in straight lines, get pucks, help out that way. I don't stray too far or go east-west."

Bylsma characterized Kunitz as "a bulldog," and there's no question his tenacity adds to the line's pedigree. And its potential.

"We've still got some room to improve," Crosby said, "and that's a good sign."

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« Reply #25 on: Mar 19, 2009 at 04:29 »

Rejection spurred Pens' Kunitz<http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/penguins/s_616772.html
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