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« Reply #10 on: Feb 26, 2009 at 13:29 »

Thanks and good luck Whits!

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« Reply #11 on: Feb 26, 2009 at 13:56 »

Whitney's stock was dropping every game. He was just terrible.

It has been dropping ever since last season (minus the cup finals).  Offensively, defensively...it really didn't matter.  He looked like hell at both ends of the ice.  Good riddance.

Back to Kunitz, another plus I have noticed about him is that he's not scared to throw down if need be.  A significant amount of fights I have seen from Kunitz were the result of Kunitz coming to the aid of a fellow teammate.  While he's no Laraque (nor should that be expected), that's good to have on a line with Crosby or Malkin.

Now for the offseason.  Get Gogo and Tanger signed long term, pick up another winger and a physical defenseman and we can call it a success.
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« Reply #12 on: Feb 26, 2009 at 14:31 »

Penguins send Whitney to Ducks
By Pierre LeBrun
ESPN.com
Archive The Pittsburgh Penguins added a quality forward to their lineup Thursday when they acquired Chris Kunitz and 20-year-old prospect Eric Tangradi from the Anaheim Ducks in exchange for offensive defenseman Ryan Whitney.

Penguins fans have been clamoring for GM Ray Shero to get a winger to play with Crosby. Mission accomplished, although Shero downplayed the fact it was specifically a player acquired to play with No. 87.

"He's a top six-forward, wherever the coach wants to play him, he'll play him," Shero told ESPN.com. "Kunitz is going to be a good player for us. I love the way he plays. He's got character, leadership, he'll play a little bigger role here than I think he did recently [in Anaheim].

"I've watched him forever and [Penguins coach] Dan Bylsma coached him [in the AHL] and played with him," added Shero. "He's a guy that can play with good players. He's got the speed, the hockey sense, the hands, we really like him."

The Penguins are currently on the outside looking in for a playoff spot with 66 points, two less than eighth-place Florida and Buffalo and one point behind Carolina. The key to the deal for Shero was that regardless of what happened this season, Kunitz is not a rental player since he has three more years on his deal.

"Yes that's very important," said Shero. "We looked around and looked around but we don't need rental guys. If I'm making a deal for Whitney, who has four more years on his deal, I need a guy in return who is signed. Kunitz has three more years which fits into where we are going. It's at the right price, too. We can't afford a $6 million or $7 million guy under our cap."

Kunitz, 29, will earn $3.6 million next season, $3.8 million in 2010-11 and $4 million in 2011-12. He won a Stanley Cup with Anaheim in 2007.

Tangradi, a Philadelphia native, is a highly-touted prospect who has 87 points (38 goals, 49 assists) in 52 games with the Ontario Hockey League's Belleville Bulls this season. Anaheim drafted him 42nd overall in 2007.

"I wasn't going to do the deal straight up, I think there's too much value in a defenseman signed for four more years, so I needed something else and Tangradi is a guy we really liked," said Shero. "He's very raw, he's got a ways to grow, he's a big kid with talent."

The Penguins had depth on the blue line and could afford to lose a good player like Whitney. They also had offers for Kris Letang and Alex Goligoski but decided to move Whitney.

Whitney, 26, has four more years on a new deal that pays him $3.5 million in 2009-10, $4.5 million in 2010-11, $5 million in 2011-12 and $5.5 million in 2012-13.

For the Ducks, meanwhile, it sets up an interesting situation with regard to either star defensemen Chris Pronger or Scott Niedermayer, as the team has been contemplating moving one of them. Pronger has another year left on his deal, while Niedermayer is an unrestricted free agent July 1 but hasn't decided whether he's playing again next season.

Ducks GM Bob Murray may move one of them by Wednesday's trade deadline, or he could wait until the NHL entry draft and include more bidders on Pronger. That's a decision that has yet to be made.

Either way, Murray has protected himself on the blue line in case he trades Pronger and Niedermayer retires.
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« Reply #13 on: Feb 26, 2009 at 21:05 »

I like the move. Although Whitney's stock is at an all time low, there was no guarantee he was going to return to form. Kunitz is at least a top 6 guy, and as has been mentioned in this thread, he will get  after people. He doesn't just fight other fighters, he fights people who fuck with his teammates. Perfect guy to pair with Crosby, with whom he has the potential to score 30 goals.

We traded from a position where we have a surplus, got a pretty good player where we have an extreme need, and got a good prospect who is raw but has a high ceiling, and didn't have to give up Letang or Goligoski. I say Shero deserves a high five for this one.
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« Reply #14 on: Feb 27, 2009 at 12:40 »

I like the move. Although Whitney's stock is at an all time low, there was no guarantee he was going to return to form. Kunitz is at least a top 6 guy, and as has been mentioned in this thread, he will get  after people. He doesn't just fight other fighters, he fights people who fuck with his teammates. Perfect guy to pair with Crosby, with whom he has the potential to score 30 goals.

We traded from a position where we have a surplus, got a pretty good player where we have an extreme need, and got a good prospect who is raw but has a high ceiling, and didn't have to give up Letang or Goligoski. I say Shero deserves a high five for this one.

That makes me feel better.  I want to believe Shero knows what he's doing and didn't just catch lightning in a bottle last year.
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« Reply #15 on: Feb 28, 2009 at 09:34 »

Pens win 5-4 over Hawks and Kunitz scores in his first game as Penguin.
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« Reply #16 on: Feb 28, 2009 at 09:50 »

Pens win 5-4 over Hawks and Kunitz scores in his first game as Penguin.

Of course I'm not going to complain about a much needed 2 points, but playoff/championship contenders don't give up 45 shots a game.

Great to see Kunitz getting off to a hot start. If anything, I feel better starting next year with him as one of our top 6.
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« Reply #17 on: Feb 28, 2009 at 16:10 »

Pens win 5-4 over Hawks and Kunitz scores in his first game as Penguin.

Of course I'm not going to complain about a much needed 2 points, but playoff/championship contenders don't give up 45 shots a game.

Great to see Kunitz getting off to a hot start. If anything, I feel better starting next year with him as one of our top 6.

I think it's safe to say that this team is far from being playoff/championship contenders. Bylsma's "system" although fun to watch, doesn't stress much defense. It's a "puck possession" system but if we don't have possession of the puck, look out. Kinda reminds me of Edzo's "system" or lack-there-of.

It's hard not to like that Blackhawks team. Man, do they have some skill. Wonder if Shero is regretting the Staal over Toews decision? He's one hell of a player and only 20. Can't imagine what he'll be like at 24-25. Cam Barker is what Ryan Whitney should be. If they had a top goaltender, they'd be scary-good.

I knew Kunitz was exactly the type of player this team was lacking. Had to laugh when Bob Errey said he's playing so well with Staal, they're going to need to keep looking for a wing to play with Sid.
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« Reply #18 on: Feb 28, 2009 at 17:09 »



Wonder if Shero is regretting the Staal over Toews decision? He's one hell of a player and only 20.


Only every morning when he looks in the mirror. At least he didn't compound the issue and make Staal untradable by giving him a 16 million dollar contract. Oh wait.
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« Reply #19 on: Mar 01, 2009 at 09:49 »

Of course I'm not going to complain about a much needed 2 points, but playoff/championship contenders don't give up 45 shots a game.

There is no doubt about that.  Nor do deep playoff/championship contenders fail miserably on the PP time and time again like we do every game.  This team needs more than Kunitz and a prospect to do anything significant this season.  They are still another physical defenseman and a scoring winger away from getting back to last seasons form.  Another gritty player wouldn't hurt.  I'm not sure if Shero is going to attempt to make those changes before March 4 or during the offseason. 

There are names flying around out there who we are supposedly interested in right now and these are two who stick out in my mind...

Chris Neil - This could be the gritty player we are looking for.  He won't bring you many goals, but neither did Roberts or Ruutu.  He would be just another piece of the puzzle and I wouldn't mind seeing him here at the right price.  It would be beautiful if they would take Satan off our hands.  His salary alone would probably not sell, nevermind his lackluster play all season long.  I have no idea what Ottawa is looking for in return, but I'm guessing we would probably have to throw in another player (Talbot/Kennedy).  Rumor is Neil is looking for a long-term deal worth $2.5 a year.

Alexander Frolov - The Ottawa Sun is reporting that the Penguins do have interest.  This would be the winger we are looking for when it comes to scoring goals on a Crosby line.  He's only 26 years old (lock him up long term first).  He is capable of netting you 35 goals and probably more playing on a line with Crosby.  He has the speed and finishing ability.  Stick handles with the best of them and has a underrated shot in my opinion.  With that said, one question remains, what are we going to have to give up to bring him here?  It's definately not going to be cheap.

Other names being thrown around out there...

Marty St. Louis: (I would rather have Frolov)
Milan Hejduk: (Too old and considering retirement after next season, a waste of money and bait if you ask me)
Ryan Smyth: (Too much money for not enough production.  He's getting around $6.0)
Ilya Kovalchuk: (It's not going to happen.  Waddell is not going to trade the only player he has)
Danny Healtey: (Anything is possible I guess?  I would love to see him here, but I strongly doubt it at his cost)







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