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Author Topic: Just wondering what you think about Cutler  (Read 2400 times)
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« Reply #10 on: Mar 16, 2009 at 22:33 »

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IMO, I don't think you look only at a QBs resume to determine whether he's a franchise guy or not.  Guys like Brees, Rivers, McNabb, Rodgers, Romo...they're franchise QBs.  Some better than others, but they're the face of the team; the guy that the organization is building around.

To a point, I agree.  Resume isn't everything, but it is a lot.  By that criteria, David Carr was a franchise QB in Houston. They built the team around him.  Was it his fault he was a human pinata because they never addressed the Oline?  Probably not.  But, he never really produced.  Went other places, couldn't produce.  Not a franchise QB.  Rodgers, maybe at some point will be.  Today?  No, simply because he hasn't had a chance to do much of anything yet.  Carson Palmer's not on your list.  Cincy's certainly built around him.  Based on that criteria, at least half the teams in the league have a franchise QB.  I think the list should be a little more exclusive.

I agree that the way this went down could be questioned, but I seem to remember hearing the leaks about the potential trade coming more from Cutler's camp than the Broncos. Maybe not.  Anyway, I just think Cutler needs to do more on the field before he can get this bent out of shape about theoretical trades that never happened. 
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« Reply #11 on: Mar 17, 2009 at 11:28 »

Huh???

lol, Why would either the Browns or Broncos do this???  I guess its good since we get to play them both in 09.

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Browns | Most intriguing landing spot for Cutler?
Tue, 17 Mar 2009 06:45:38 -0700

John Clayton, of ESPN.com, reports the Cleveland Browns would be the team with the best chance to interest the Denver Broncos regarding a trade for QB Jay Cutler because they could offer a promising quarterback in return in either QB Brady Quinn or QB Derek Anderson.


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« Reply #12 on: Mar 17, 2009 at 11:44 »

Huh???

lol, Why would either the Browns or Broncos do this???  I guess its good since we get to play them both in 09.

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Browns | Most intriguing landing spot for Cutler?
Tue, 17 Mar 2009 06:45:38 -0700

John Clayton, of ESPN.com, reports the Cleveland Browns would be the team with the best chance to interest the Denver Broncos regarding a trade for QB Jay Cutler because they could offer a promising quarterback in return in either QB Brady Quinn or QB Derek Anderson.


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McDaniels might do it, if he thinks he can do some Cassell-type magic on one of the Brownie turds.

Mangina might do it because he realizes Derek Anderson's year is past and Quinn is a post-operative transsexual. 

Still think the more likely scenario might be the Bucs.
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« Reply #13 on: Mar 17, 2009 at 13:05 »

Back in grade school, the fat diabetic was usually picked last at recess.

Just sayin'...
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« Reply #14 on: Mar 17, 2009 at 15:02 »

Back in grade school, the fat diabetic was usually picked last at recess.

Just sayin'...

It's okay, Otis.  We all have a lot more respect for you now.
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« Reply #15 on: Mar 17, 2009 at 15:12 »

Based on that criteria, at least half the teams in the league have a franchise QB.  I think the list should be a little more exclusive.

I guess it boils down to how you define a "franchise QB."

To me, it's just another way of saying, "He's our guy."  Or, "That position is locked up."  The team isn't looking to spend a R1 pick or big money on a FA QB.  What's the old expression, "if you've got two QBs, you've got none?"  Well, this is the opposite of that, I guess.

Obviously, you've got the elite of that group (i.e. Peyton, Beardy, Ben (I think I'd put him in this group now), maybe you could make an argument for one or two more...) and then you've got the rest of the franchise guys (i.e. McNabb, Eli, Brees, Rivers, Cutler, Romo, Rodgers...maybe Hasselbeck, Bulger and depending on who you talk to Cassell...then, you've got the young guys that look like they might move into this group in the next year or two, but it's too early to tell...Ryan, Flacco.

Looking at it that way, I guess you can say about half the league has one.  And, I'd be willing to bet if that any of those franchise QBs (Tier One or Two) listed were in Cutler's shoes, they'd probably react the same way.  

Rookie HC comes in, hasn't even met me yet and already he's lookin' to move me so he can trade for his guy from NE?  A guy that he's openly admitted to my face he wants??

Again, personally, I'd be fucking pissed too.  I can't necessarily say that I'd demand a trade though.  I'd go out and play my ass off to prove to this noob HC that he was wrong to doubt me.  Then, when it's time to talk contract, I'd tell 'em to go scratch and sign with a rival.
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« Reply #16 on: Mar 17, 2009 at 19:20 »

Hey, I'm not diabetic. Well, not yet.

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« Reply #17 on: Mar 17, 2009 at 23:18 »

Hey, I'm not diabetic. Well, not yet.


Are you demanding a trade?
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« Reply #18 on: Mar 18, 2009 at 09:10 »

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Are you demanding a trade?

My agent says there are a number of other boards showing an interest.

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« Reply #19 on: Mar 18, 2009 at 10:38 »

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Are you demanding a trade?

My agent says there are a number of other boards showing an interest.



I can assure you that Mr. otismalibu is our franchise fake jersey maker, hardwood floorer and unwatchable porn link poster.

Uh, hold on, I gotta take this call...

Hello?  ESPN Patriots board?
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