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« on: Apr 23, 2009 at 09:03 »

Well, it's impossible, really, to try to trend anything off of the Tomlin/Colbert drafts, there having been all of two.  And last year was more fortuitousness than planning.  The thing that struck me about Timmons, though, that was also shared by Rashard Mendenhall is that these are very, very young guys.  My take was that Tomlin wanted a guy in Timmons who had the skills he liked, but whom he could take his time to mold.  Even after another draft class, Timmons is just the third youngest guy behind Mendenhall and Doug Legursky.

As of 9.10.09, our first game, here are the ages of our young first-rounders under Tomlin:

Mendenhall, 6.19.87 - 22
Timmons, 5.14.86 - 23

By comparison, Ben was born 3.2.82, and will be 27.  Still a young guy, but with plenty of experience.  There are some kids entering the draft who aren't much younger.  Sherrod Martin, the DB out of Troy, was born 10.12.84, and will be 24 at the first game.  Quan Cosby, WR from Texas, was born the same year as Ben!, 12.23.82, and will be 26.

So I dug up some 1.32 players of interest, to see which were in the Timmons/Mendenhall age/moldability zone.

First, a couple of outstanding athletes who started to show some great football play late in their NCAA careers.

DE Jarron Gilbert, SJSU, 9.30.86 - 22
DE/OLB/TE Connor Barwin, Cinci, 10.15.86 - 22

Then I looked at the best two centers.

C Alex Mack, Cal, 11.19.85 - 23
C Eric Wood, Louisville, 3.18.86 - 23

Mack will actually turn 24 midseason.  He and Wood are older than Mendenhall and Timmons.

Then I looked at three players of interest.

WR Hakeem Nicks, NC, 1.14.88 - 21
CB Darius Butler, Conn. 3.18.86 - 23
OT Eben Britton, Arizona, 10.14.87 - 21

Interesting that two guys we might have on our board (Butler and Wood) were born the exact same day and year.  But if the extreme youth/moldability theory does at all factor in Tomlin's R1 thoughts, Nicks and Britten are guys with an edge.

We'll see!
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« Reply #1 on: Apr 23, 2009 at 09:35 »

Wonder how that Amobi Okoye kid is doing?  Remember him?  He was playing Div I when he was 16 and entered the draft at 19 or so.  Think he went to the Texans.
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« Reply #2 on: Apr 23, 2009 at 10:30 »

Darius Butler talks about the NFL team visits:

2009 NFL Draft Darius Butler on recent NFL team visits


Darius Butler highlights:

CB Darius Butler Highlights Connecticut 2008


Alex Mack - Draft Snapshot by some dude (check lone comment):

Alex Mack - Draft Snapshot


Alex Mack run blocking:

Alex Mack Run Blocking Highlights


Alex Mack highlights:

C Alex Mack Highlights California 2008


Tons of Hakeem Nicks vids (still say no WR in R1, please):

Hakeem Nicks


WR Hakeem Nicks Highlights North Carolina 2008


UNC Football-Hakeem Nicks Highlights: Invincible


That behind him, fingertip, around the back catch that got him so much pub:

Hakeem Nicks Greatest Catch of the Year?


Connor Barwin highlights:

DE Connor Barwin Highlights Cincinnati 2008


Connor Barwin pro day:

Connor Barwin Pro Day 1


Most videos I found of Gilbert are (not surprisingly) of him jumping out of that pool or lifting something heavy.  Didn't see much in the way of player highlight type stuff.

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« Reply #3 on: Apr 23, 2009 at 11:05 »

Sadly, I can't view those at work (firewall) or at home (crappy puter).  New computer supposed to arrive soon though.  Welcome to the 20th century.

Okoye has been something of a disappointment from what I hear, but he's young, the light still may come on for him.  This might be the do or die year for him.
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« Reply #4 on: Apr 23, 2009 at 14:43 »

Very observant Fnnyystank
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« Reply #5 on: Apr 23, 2009 at 14:51 »

I think Mendenhall was a BPA pick, and Timmons a BAA one.  And I think in these sorts of situations, age becomes a deciding factor.  So there's something to the age thing, but it's prolly situational.
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« Reply #6 on: Apr 24, 2009 at 20:55 »

New puter arrived today, in time for the draft.  Finally able to watch these without a hitch.  So nice to advance from the ol' Commodore 64.

Of these, Butler is the most opinion-changing.  Can see Tomlin using him as all-purpose weapon.  Interesting.  Tho' we just signed a utility backup.
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