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« on: Jun 26, 2009 at 18:09 »

TSN reporting that Pronger is now a Flyer...ugh. http://twitter.com/darrendreger

And so much for the Kaberle/Kessel trade...

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Breaking news.

It appears the potential trade involving the Boston Bruins and Toronto Maple Leafs is at the very least on hold and quite possibly dead.

TSN reported this morning that the Bruins had offered Phil Kessel in exchange for Tomas Kaberle and Toronto's No. 7 overall pick in today's draft.

It was later reported that the Leafs No. 7 pick was not included in the deal and Boston was in fact adding a significant pick in the package.

It turns out there was apparently major miscommunication between the two teams. Boston did indeed believe they were getting the No. 7 pick from the Leafs but Toronto is apparently not interested in making that move.

So, for now anyway, the deal does not look as though it will happen, certainly in that form.

Stay tuned.


http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=282967
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« Reply #1 on: Jun 26, 2009 at 18:29 »

It has been confirmed.

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The Anaheim Ducks have traded defenceman Chris Pronger to the Philadelphia Flyers for defenceman Luca Sbisa, forward Joffrey Lupul and two first-round picks.


http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=282981

LOL@PHILLY!!!!
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« Reply #2 on: Jun 26, 2009 at 18:31 »

Damn, Pronger is only signed for one year, but that is going to be one fucking good team next year.
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« Reply #3 on: Jun 26, 2009 at 18:33 »

It depends on what they have to give up in order to fit him under the cap.  They are going to have to dump some big names to fit him in.  

Eitherway, that's a chunk to give up in order to get an aging Pronger.  It basically amounts to...

The Flyers give up:

2008 First Round Pick (Sbisa)

2009 First Round Pick

2010 First Round Pick

A 25 year old forward who netted your team 25 goals last season (Lupul)

The Flyers get:

A 34 year old Chris Pronger

Ryan Dingle

Since 1975 and it's no wonder why.  That's overpayment if I ever saw it.
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« Reply #4 on: Jun 26, 2009 at 19:08 »

It depends on what they have to give up in order to fit him under the cap.  They are going to have to dump some big names to fit him in.  

Eitherway, that's a chunk to give up in order to get an aging Pronger.  It basically amounts to...

The Flyers give up:

2008 First Round Pick (Sbisa)

2009 First Round Pick

2010 First Round Pick

A 25 year old forward who netted your team 25 goals last season (Lupul)

The Flyers get:

A 34 year old Chris Pronger

Ryan Dingle

Since 1975 and it's no wonder why.  That's overpayment if I ever saw it.

Yeah it's not the package I would have given up for a one-year rental but if they feel Pronger get's them over the hump then I guess it's a positive trade for them. I know I'm not looking forward to having to deal with Pronger when we play Philly multiple times next year. I guess they have enough scoring depth in their top 9 to give up a 25 goal guy, but those two first rounders are going to hurt over the next few years.

In short, they better win it all next year.
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« Reply #5 on: Jun 26, 2009 at 19:20 »

I'm guessing they will try and dump Briere in order to free up some cash.  

I still can't get over this trade.  It's a typical idiotic Flyer trade.  See a big name, trade anything and everything to get him, fall short come playoff time.  Repeat process all over again in 2010.  

They still don't have a goaltender, so good luck to them if they want to go deep come playoff time.  Emery is not the answer. 
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« Reply #6 on: Jun 26, 2009 at 21:59 »

And the Penguins first round pick is Simon Despres.  Fwiw, Central Scouting had him ranked 18th overall in the draft.

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Name: Simon Despres
Position: D
Shoots: Left
Height: 6-3
Weight: 214 lbs
Birthdate: 1991-07-27
Eligible for Draft: 2009
Drafted: 2009
Hometown: Laval, Quebec
Acquired: 1st round (30th overall), 2009 by PIT
Playing In: CHL

History<Talent Analysis

At 6'4 and 215 pounds, Despres has the physical tools to make the lives of attacking players difficult as they enter the zone. Meanwhile, he already has the poise and intelligence to make the safe and, more importantly, correct play in his own zone. His vision and ability to anticipate the play also benefit him in offensive situations, where he saw his point totals more than double over the previous year.

Future

Will remain in junior in 2009-10.

http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/simon_despres

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http://nhl.com/ice/draftprospectdetail.htm?dpid=5238&tab=scr

Simon Despres - #30 overall Pittsburgh Penguins




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« Reply #7 on: Jun 26, 2009 at 22:43 »

I'm no hockey draft expert but it seems to be a very good pick. Besides the obvious of getting the 18th ranked prospect at 30, you've got to like the sound of his game. 6-4 215 lb. defensman that can move the puck out of his zone. Sign me up.
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« Reply #8 on: Jun 26, 2009 at 22:53 »

I'm no hockey draft expert but it seems to be a very good pick. Besides the obvious of getting the 18th ranked prospect at 30, you've got to like the sound of his game. 6-4 215 lb. defensman that can move the puck out of his zone. Sign me up.

Going by all of the scouting reports, it sounds like he could possibly turn into a pretty solid defensive-defenseman.  We already have our two offensive-defensemen in Tanger and Gogo, so it's good to see us go after a more physical stay-at-home defenseman for the future.

While I was hoping for Olsen to fall to us, only time will truly tell, but it looks like a pretty solid pick.
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« Reply #9 on: Jun 27, 2009 at 00:11 »

Rossi's opinion on day one of the draft...

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2009 Draft: Day 1 Recap
Posted June 27, 2009 12 :04 AM

Quick thoughts from Day 1 of the 2009 NHL entry draft at Bell Center:

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<FLYERS SNAG PRONGER<


http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/penguins/chippediceblog/
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« Reply #10 on: Jun 27, 2009 at 00:22 »

Penguins go for defense first
Stanley Cup champions take Despres, a 6-4 defenseman

Saturday, June 27, 2009
By Dave Molinari, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

MONTREAL -- Simon Despres widely was regarded as one of the best defensemen available in the 2009 NHL entry draft.

The Penguins obviously agreed, which is why they chose him last night when he was still available at the end of the opening round. Indeed, they had projected him as a middle-of-the-first-round selection.

What they do not necessarily go along with is the perception that he is strictly a defensive defenseman.

Not because they have any particular concerns about how Despres, who is 6 feet 3 1/2, 205 pounds, plays in his own zone, but because they feel he has untapped offensive abilities.

"I would hope that at some point he can chip in [offensively], and at least be a No. 3 or 4 defenseman at some point," said Jay Heinbuck, their director of amateur scouting.

Despres, who had two goals and 30 assists in 66 games with St. John in the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League in 2008-09, said flatly that, "I think I have offensive potential."

When asked what area of his game needs the most work, he responded: "I have to shoot more."

The NHL's Central Scouting Bureau ranked him the No. 8 prospect among North American forwards and defensemen, and Chris Bordeleau of Central Scouting offered this assessment of Despres:

"He's got the size and mobility. I've seen him many games, and he never seems to make a bad play. He's never going to get 100 points, but, definitely, when you want a guy to play defense, he's your guy. He does it all, he'll block shots and he moves the puck at the right time."

The Penguins sufficiently were impressed that they rejected several offers to trade the No. 30 pick, which they used on Despres.

"Our scouts really liked him and wanted to stick with the pick and take him," general manager Ray Shero said. "I actually tried to talk them out of it, just to make sure [the scouts] wanted him."

Even though the Penguins had been impressed by him for quite a while, Despres wasn't aware of just how interested they were in him until Shero announced that he was their choice.

"I met with them a couple of times, but you never know," Despres said. "In the draft, it's so unpredictable."

What he did know was that he liked the idea of ending up with the Penguins. Turns out he was something of a fan long before he became part of the organization.

"I was wanting them to win the Stanley Cup this year," he said. "Mario Lemieux and [Sidney] Crosby and [Evgeni] Malkin and all those guys. It's a great honor, and I'm very excited."

Despres is the first defenseman the Penguins have taken in the first round since they claimed Ryan Whitney in 2002. Unlike Whitney, whose forte always was offense, Despres' game is built on his work in his own zone.

"He's not a big offensive numbers guy as of yet, but he's going to at least be a good first-pass defenseman who defends well," Heinbuck said. "He skates well for a 6 foot 4 kid and he's just [showing] the tip of the iceberg, physically.

"He's already a big boy, and he hasn't filled out yet. He has a chance to be a massive person."

Heinbuck said Despres was at less than 100 percent for most of the past season -- "He did play with a bit of a hip problem all year. A bruised hip, where every time you play, you bang it again" -- and suggested that might have been one of the factors that contributed to him still being available when it was the Penguins' turn to choose.

His modest offensive statistics might have been another.

"Maybe people thought he should have put up more offensive numbers, but he's been on Canada's national teams for his age all along," Heinbuck said.

He will not, however, be fast-tracked to the NHL. If he's able to contend for a job with the Penguins in three seasons, management will be delighted.

"He has another two years of junior eligibility," Heinbuck said. "If he takes some good strides in those years ... our philosophy is not to rush guys."

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09178/98034...0JbYVJ0LU&D
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« Reply #11 on: Jun 27, 2009 at 10:01 »

We got Ulf's son... :lol:

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31/61 Penguins Philip Samuelsson D Chicago (USHL)

Scouting Report: The son of former NHL defenseman/current Phoenix Coyotes assistant coach Ulf Samuelsson is a chip off the old block... plays a sound defensive game with a physical edge, though he doesn't have his father's hockey sense... despite his high profile, he was overshadowed by fellow Steel blueliner John Moore in 2008-09... has committed to attend Boston College in 2009-10... has offensive limitations, so he'll make or break it in the NHL based on his defense...


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Round 3 - Ben Hanowski

HT WT Team GP G A Pts PIM +/-
6-2 198 Little Falls (High-MN) 25 57 53 110 16 -
Scouting Report: Produced a whopping 110 points in just 25 games with Little Falls in 2008-09... is versatile enough to line up on either side of center... was rated 35th among North American skaters in Central Scouting's final rankings... his ability to finish is excellent, but his skating may hold him back... will attend St. Cloud State University in 2009-10... set a new record for most career points in U.S. high-school hockey (378 points)...



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« Reply #12 on: Jun 27, 2009 at 10:03 »

Pens take Ulf's son, Philip Samuelsson with their 2nd round pick. Sweet!

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ROUND 2
31. NY Islanders -- Mikko Koskinen, g, Vantaa (Finland); 32. Detroit (from Tampa Bay) -- Landon Ferraro, f, Red Deer (WHL); 33. Colorado -- Ryan O'Reilly, f, Erie (OHL); 34. Atlanta -- Carl Klingberg, f, Frolunda Jr. (Sweden); 35. Los Angeles -- Kyle Clifford, f, Barrie (OHL); 36. Phoenix -- Chris Brown, f, USA U-18 (USDP); 37. Anaheim (from Toronto) -- Matthew Clark, d, Brampton (OHL); 38. Dallas -- Alex Chiasson, f, Des Moines (USHL); 39. Ottawa -- Jakob Silfverberg, f, Brynas Jr. (Sweden); 40. Edmonton -- Anton Lander, f, Timra (Sweden); 41. Nashville -- Zach Budish, f, Team South West (MHSEL); 42. Nashville -- Charles-Olivier Roussel, d, Shawinigan (QMJHL); 43. San Jose -- William Wrenn, d, USA U-18 (USDP); 44. Florida -- Drew Shore, f, USA U-18 (USDP); 45. Atlanta -- Jeremy Morin, f, USA U-18 (USDP); 46. Ottawa -- Robin Lehner, g, Frolunda Jr. (Sweden); 47. NY Rangers -- Ethan Werek, f, Kingston (OHL); 48. St. Louis -- Brentt Ponich, d, Portland (WHL); 49. Colorado -- Stefan Elliott, d, Saskatoon (WHL); 50. Toronto -- Kenny Ryan, f, USA U-18 (USDP); 51. Carolina -- Brian Dumoulin, d, Jr. Monarchs (EJHL ); 52. Tampa Bay -- Richard Panik, f, Trinec (Czech Republic); 53. Vancouver -- Anton Rodin, f, Brynas Jr. (Sweden); 54. New Jersey -- Eric Gelinas, d, Lewiston (QMJHL); 55. Dmitri Orlov, d, Novokuznetsk (Russia); 56. Columbus -- Kevin Lynch, f, USA U-18 (USDP); 57. San Jose -- Taylor Doherty, d, Kingston (OHL); 58. Toronto -- Jesse Blacker, d, Windsor (OHL); 59. Chicago -- Brandon Pirri, f, Georgetown (OJHL); 60. Detroit -- Tomas Tatar, f, Zvolen (Slovakia); 61. Pittsburgh -- Philip Samuelsson, d, Chicgao (USHL).

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« Reply #13 on: Jun 27, 2009 at 11:03 »

Phlys got raped in that trade.  I guess they felt the need to replace Hatcher with another post-prime goon. 

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« Reply #14 on: Jun 27, 2009 at 11:12 »

Round 4 - Nick Petersen....another big RW

Round 5 - Alex Velischek 6' 0" 200 lbs HIGH-NJ

We are loading up the D this year and I think it's pretty obvious that Ray is stacking up on size this year...

Rnd Pick Ov Team Player D.O.B. Birth Place Cty Ht Wt League Team Pos
1 30 30 PIT SIMON DESPRES Jul 27, 1991 LAVAL, QC CA 6' 4" 205 QMJHL SAINT JOHN D
2 31 61 PIT PHILIP SAMUELSSON Jul 26, 1991 LEKSAND SE 6' 3" 198 USHL CHICAGO D
3 2 63 PIT BEN HANOWSKI Oct 18, 1990 LITTLE FALLS, MN US 6' 2" 198 HIGH-MN LITTLE FALLS H.S. RW
4 30 121 PIT NICK PETERSEN May 27, 1989 WAKEFIELD, QC CA 6' 2" 186 QMJHL SHAWINIGAN RW
5 2 123 PIT ALEX VELISCHEK Dec 17, 1990 QUEBEC CITY, QC CA 6' 0" 200 HIGH-NJ DELBARTON D
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« Reply #15 on: Jun 27, 2009 at 11:43 »

Alex Velischek, another son of a former player who's father also happened to be one mean S.O.B. for the Devils back in the day.
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« Reply #16 on: Jun 27, 2009 at 12:34 »

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To the Rags for the 151st pick & Drafted R5/151 Andy Bathgate, C
2008-09 Stats
HT WT Team GP G A Pts PIM +/-
6-0 164 Belleville (OHL) 44 4 12 16 10 6

Bathgate's grandson btw.

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R6/181 Viktor Ekbom, D
2008-09 Stats
HT WT Team GP G A Pts PIM +/-
6-2 194 Oskarshamn (Swe2) 29 2 4 6 22 -


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« Reply #17 on: Jun 27, 2009 at 12:42 »

Wow.  Bouwmeester, Regehr and Phaneuf on defense.

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MONTREAL -- The second day of the NHL draft started off with another big trade Saturday, as the Calgary Flames acquired highly coveted defenseman Jay Bouwmeester from the Florida Panthers.

In exchange, the Flames send defenseman Jordan Leopold and a third-round pick (No. 67) in this year's draft.


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« Reply #18 on: Jun 27, 2009 at 14:20 »



Bathgate's grandson btw.



Wow, first Ulfie's son now Bathgate's grandson. Shero's kicking it old school.

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