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« Reply #20 on: Jul 21, 2009 at 12:12 »

Please tell me that Brian Jackson is the guy that said he was St. Pierre.

Also, as has been pointed out, this lady wants some cash and is going about it in a fucked up manner. FWIW (cue Finny's dismay at me saying this), Roethlisberger is about to experience what Pacman Jones has experienced countless times. The only difference will be that ESPN won't have a hard-on for rushing to print/broadcast misinformation about accusations about Roethlisberger, and every detail that suggests Roethlisberger is innocent will get more coverage than unfounded allegations. Good for BR, but shitty for the sad state of what is a pathetic journalism industry.

 


Wait one second...look at the track records of the two people you just compared.  I think journalism is in a sad state, but this has nothing to do with that.


The track record - or your perception of it - to which you're referring (in Jones' case) is based on several allegations like this one. In nearly all instances, it has been proven that Pacman had no involvement in any of them (as evidenced by court rulings, judges' statements, etc.). All things equal, if a few more people come forward making baseless claims that BR spit on them, smacked them, etc., you would then have to harbor the same feelings toward BR as you do against Pacman.

Regardless of whether or not charges have been dropped, or what...there seems to be a pattern of trouble no matter where he is.  If you think he's some saint, who is unfortunately always in the wrong place at the wrong time, you are sorely mistaken. 

[edit] Legal troubles
On July 14, 2005 Jones was arrested on charges of assault and felony vandalism stemming from a nightclub altercation. On September 5, 2005, Jones was a guest at the annual Nashville Sports Council Kickoff Luncheon. After a loud verbal tantrum in which he was told to wait in line for his vehicle later that evening, Jones was counseled by the police. He also refused to pay for any valet services used that evening, because he didn't have money at the time. In October 2005, in a petition filed by the State of West Virginia, it was alleged that Jones had not made regular and sufficient contact with his probation officer and that he did not report his July arrest in Nashville in a timely fashion. The court ordered the probation extended for a period of 90 days, although the state requested it to be extended one year.

On August 25, 2006, Jones was arrested in Murfreesboro, Tennessee for disorderly conduct and public intoxication after claiming that a woman stole his wallet. She claimed that she did not steal anything and Jones spat on her. Police officers said they ordered Jones to leave several times, but he refused, continuing to shout profanities at the woman. A judge granted him six months probation on the conditions that he stays out of further trouble and away from the nightclub.[33] On October 26, 2006. Jones was cited for misdemeanor assault for allegedly spitting in the face of a female student from Tennessee State University during a private party at Club Mystic, a Nashville nightclub. He was suspended by the Titans for one game and was scheduled to be booked on the charge on November 17, 2006.

Jones also is set to appear in a Fayetteville, Georgia court in 2007 for his February 2006 incident on subpoenas for felony and misdemeanor obstruction of justice charges for an incident outside a home. The charges of marijuana possession in the same state were dismissed35]

On June 18, 2007, Jones was sought by police for questioning after a shooting at an Atlanta strip club allegedly involved members of his entourage. According to police at the scene, Jones was not present during the shooting, and is not being charged.[36]

Jones was suspended from the NFL for the entire 2007 season for off-the-field conduct.[37] During his suspension Jones signed with Total Nonstop Action Wrestling, despite an agreement between TNA and the Titans organization that he would only have a "non-physical" role in the company,[38] and went on to the TNA World Tag Team Championship with Ron Killings. He also established a record label, "National Street League Records", and performed as one half of the rap duo Posterboyz.[31]


[edit] Las Vegas shooting case
On the morning of February 19, 2007, during the 2007 NBA All-Star Game weekend in Las Vegas, Jones is alleged to have been involved in an altercation with an exotic dancer at Minxx, a local strip club. Jones and American rap artist Nelly patronized the club on the evening in question. Nelly, along with someone known only as Richard Rich, began to shower the stage with hundreds of one-dollar bills; an act known as "making it rain." Jones then joined Nelly by throwing his own money for "visual effect." Club promoter Chris Mitchell then directed his dancers to collect the money. According to the club's co-owner, Jones became enraged when one of the dancers began taking the money without his permission. He allegedly grabbed her by her hair and slammed her head on the stage. A security guard intervened and scuffled with members of Jones' entourage of half a dozen people. Jones then allegedly threatened the guard's life.[39] During this time, Mitchell and a male associate left the club with a garbage bag filled with $81,020 and two Breitling watches, which police later recovered41]

More trouble followed Jones after the altercation, when drug dealer Darryl Moore reported to the police, after being busted during a deal, about his phone conversations with Jones. "We gotta slow down, man. We gotta get him focused on football, man." Moore is alleged to have said. Wiretapped phone conversations between Moore and his friends revealed Moore talking about how Jones bet on college games to earn quick money. "You know, I was talkin' to him the other day about smokin', and he was like 'man, if I didn't smoke I couldn't take all the stress that I'm dealing with right now,'" Moore said.[42] Jones has not been connected to the Moore drug arrests or convicted for the Vegas stripper incident.

On June 20, 2007, the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department and Clark County District Attorney's office announced that Jones would face two felony charges stemming from the strip club melee.[43] But on November 13, 2007, Jones accepted a plea deal;[44] on Dec. 6, Jones pleaded no contest to one charge of conspiracy to commit disorderly conduct, a misdemeanor. He was given a suspended prison sentence of one year, probation, and ordered to perform 200 hours of community service.[45]

On June 25, 2007, Tommy Urbanski and his wife Kathy sued Jones in civil court, claiming that Jones had bitten his left ankle, and was responsible for the shooting.[46] The lawsuit also named the Tennessee Titans franchise and the NFL as defendants, on the grounds that Jones' employers knew of his erratic behavior prior to the Minxx incident, but did not suspend him until afterwards. Had the Titans suspended Jones prior to the NBA All-Star game, the suit argues, he would not have been invited to the Las Vegas events, and the incident would not have taken place.[47]

On April 21, a document revealed that Jones paid $15,000 extortion money to various people after the Las Vegas shooting.

~Wikipedia~

And yes, I understand that wikipedia isn't always the most factual of sources, but there is a list of the trouble surrounding Pacman.  Both guys are or were high profile athletes, the comparisons end there.  I don't think the claims against Pacman are as "baseless" as you claim.  A guy is handicapped due to an altercation that Pacman had a significant role in starting.

My bro lived with Pacman for several years and was in Vegas, and I know the vast majority of the events you listed above to be nowhere near what the wiki reports on the surface. I certainly don't consider him a saint, but if you're blaming Pacman for the Urbanski shooting (what a stretch Urbanski is going for in his CIVIL suit), you've gotta blame Nelly and Jermaine Dupri as they had most of the money being thrown around. The things my bro has told me have always been corroborated in court rulings.

Anyway, the point was to show that things aren't always the way media portray them to be. I highly suspect BR had nothing to do with his accuser, but the 24/7 news cycle is always looking for any tiny sliver of "bleeds it leads" to hang its hat on for the day.
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« Reply #21 on: Jul 21, 2009 at 12:44 »

I understand what you're saying, and I believe it to a point.  I'm just not willing to go as far on the limb as you are.
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« Reply #22 on: Jul 21, 2009 at 14:11 »

pictures of the biotch if you haven't seen them already......nice teeth.

http://photos.tmz.com/galleries/andrea_mcnulty#47441
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« Reply #23 on: Jul 21, 2009 at 14:44 »

She does have some nice teeth. What's up with the baby's face?
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« Reply #24 on: Jul 21, 2009 at 14:52 »

I'm starting to rethink this......That kid does look ALOT like Ben.....



After he flattened his face on that New Yorker....
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« Reply #25 on: Jul 21, 2009 at 15:41 »

The complaint.

I expect an analysis from aj and LC.

Also, the law firm's contact information is listed, for anyone who feels like offering them an opinion...
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« Reply #26 on: Jul 21, 2009 at 15:45 »

The one article is so ridiculous that if anyone believes that crazy-trainwreck they deserve to be the ones going to jail. She quotes Ben as saying shit like (I'm paraphrasing here) "Don't worry, I'll pull out" and "Tell them you just fixed my TV, now get out!"

LOL, this is the fakest thing ever. The nutjob might get paid out of it, but wow. It's like some 13 year old made this story up:

McNulty claims that, when she arrived at the room, he was wearing a T-shirt and athletic shorts. She adds, for no apparent reason other than to show the clarity of her recollection, that the room was a mess.

Roethlisberger showed her the television that was malfunctioning, located in suite's bedroom. Using the remote, she determined that there was no problem with the television or the sound system.

She claims that, as she tried to leave the room, Roethlisberger blocked her path, and that he "grabbed [her] and started to kiss her."

She claims that she was "shocked and stunned that this previously friendly man, that appeared to be a gentleman in her previous contacts with him was suddenly preventing her from leaving, was assaulting and battering her."

McNulty admits that she didn't try to fight Roethlisberger, citing his size and strength. She claims that she "communicated her objection and lack of consent," and that he nevertheless began "fondling [her] through her dress and between her legs."

She claims that he pushed her onto the bed, and despite her alleged protests he "pulled her underpants off and proceeded to penetrate her."

McNulty claims that she told him, "You don't want to do this." She also claims that she said, "Please don't," and that she told him she was not on any type of birth control.

She claims that he said in response, "Don't worry, I'll pull out," which he ultimately did.

At that point, he allowed her to get off the bed. McNulty claims that she went to the bathroom, and "tried to pull herself together." When she emerged, she claims that Roethlisberger asked, "There are cameras on this room, aren't there?"

She responded by saying, "Yes, there are cameras everywhere."

McNulty alleges that he then seem worried, and that his tone became "stern."

"If anyone asks you, you fixed my television," he allegedly said. "You fixed my television. Now go!"




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« Reply #27 on: Jul 21, 2009 at 15:59 »

Reading the complain (to #153), with no legal background, I quickly came up with some inconsistencies and oddities...  Maybe post them later.
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« Reply #28 on: Jul 21, 2009 at 17:05 »

it says right there, " she was selected to serve the important and celebrity guests, on that floor."  later in the document it says, "It was Plaintiff's responsibility to serve all of these guests on the floor, in addition to her role as an Executive Casino Host."


in the Dictionary, "serve" has this as one listing:  16.   to render obedience or homage to (God, a sovereign, etc.).
obviously, we all know who God is in this scenario, and many others (no offense Preach).

he's innocent.

 
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« Reply #29 on: Jul 21, 2009 at 17:22 »

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Bizarre Twist in Roethlisberger Assault Case
Posted Jul 21st 2009 10:24AM by TMZ Staff

Sources connected to the Ben Roethlisberger sexual assault case claim the psychiatric care the accuser says she's under has nothing to do with Ben .... it has to do with a relationship she had with a man who never existed.

Andrea McNulty has sued Roethlisberger, the Pittsburgh Steelers Super Bowl champ, claiming he sexually assaulted her in July 2008. Sources tell us Roethlisberger and McNulty had a sexual liaison at the time but Ben insists it was purely consensual. We're told the two knew each other because Ben had stayed at Harrah's in Lake Tahoe over the last several years for golf tournaments -- and she worked at the hotel.

Sources connected with the case tell us a former co-worker of McNulty's at Harrah's came forward with this incredible story -- that around the time McNulty hooked up with Roethlisberger, she was allegedly involved with a married man. The man's wife, we're told, created an email account, posing as a U.S. soldier in Iraq. The wife began corresponding with McNulty to gain information. We're told the former co-worker has said McNulty fell in love with the fictitious soldier and began telling people she was engaged to him. When the wife stopped the correspondence, McNulty then began telling people the soldier was killed in action.

We're told McNulty told at least one co-worker she began seeing a psychiatrist because of the phantom soldier.

We tried repeatedly getting in touch with McNulty. So far we have been unable to reach her.


And Ben must have been drinking like a champion that night.  Scratch that...like a HOF'er.

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