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« Reply #10 on: Jul 21, 2009 at 09:41 »

I'll bet she's somehow related to Belicheat....

And really, it's obviously bullshit because who calls or sends up a woman to fix a tv?  we all know they can't comprehend anything A/V related.  Major hole in the prosecution's story.  major hole, yes i said it but not as eloquently as bleedgreen. 









You said "hole."
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« Reply #11 on: Jul 21, 2009 at 09:55 »

Please tell me that Brian Jackson is the guy that said he was St. Pierre.

Also, as has been pointed out, this lady wants some cash and is going about it in a fucked up manner. FWIW (cue Finny's dismay at me saying this), Roethlisberger is about to experience what Pacman Jones has experienced countless times. The only difference will be that ESPN won't have a hard-on for rushing to print/broadcast misinformation about accusations about Roethlisberger, and every detail that suggests Roethlisberger is innocent will get more coverage than unfounded allegations. Good for BR, but shitty for the sad state of what is a pathetic journalism industry.
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« Reply #12 on: Jul 21, 2009 at 10:45 »

Roethlisberger is about to experience what Jerome Bettis experienced a few years back.
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« Reply #13 on: Jul 21, 2009 at 10:55 »

Please tell me that Brian Jackson is the guy that said he was St. Pierre.

Also, as has been pointed out, this lady wants some cash and is going about it in a fucked up manner. FWIW (cue Finny's dismay at me saying this), Roethlisberger is about to experience what Pacman Jones has experienced countless times. The only difference will be that ESPN won't have a hard-on for rushing to print/broadcast misinformation about accusations about Roethlisberger, and every detail that suggests Roethlisberger is innocent will get more coverage than unfounded allegations. Good for BR, but shitty for the sad state of what is a pathetic journalism industry.

Wait one second...look at the track records of the two people you just compared.  I think journalism is in a sad state, but this has nothing to do with that.
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« Reply #14 on: Jul 21, 2009 at 11:09 »

Roethlisberger is about to experience what Jerome Bettis experienced a few years back.

Yes and we all know that Ben is as big a scum bucket as the Bus was...yeah, right!
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« Reply #15 on: Jul 21, 2009 at 11:22 »

PFT has two recent posts, one of which details the allegations, and the other details the woman's alleged psych issues. 

The whole thing smells like some trout that was left in the trunk for a month.
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« Reply #16 on: Jul 21, 2009 at 11:25 »

Please tell me that Brian Jackson is the guy that said he was St. Pierre.

Also, as has been pointed out, this lady wants some cash and is going about it in a fucked up manner. FWIW (cue Finny's dismay at me saying this), Roethlisberger is about to experience what Pacman Jones has experienced countless times. The only difference will be that ESPN won't have a hard-on for rushing to print/broadcast misinformation about accusations about Roethlisberger, and every detail that suggests Roethlisberger is innocent will get more coverage than unfounded allegations. Good for BR, but shitty for the sad state of what is a pathetic journalism industry.

Wait one second...look at the track records of the two people you just compared.  I think journalism is in a sad state, but this has nothing to do with that.


The track record - or your perception of it - to which you're referring (in Jones' case) is based on several allegations like this one. In nearly all instances, it has been proven that Pacman had no involvement in any of them (as evidenced by court rulings, judges' statements, etc.). All things equal, if a few more people come forward making baseless claims that BR spit on them, smacked them, etc., you would then have to harbor the same feelings toward BR as you do against Pacman.
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« Reply #17 on: Jul 21, 2009 at 11:32 »

I won't get into the whole Pacman issue, though I do think there are likely media biases based on race and image (nice clean black player versus thug). 

One thing to add to this particular case is that, not only is this being brought a year after the fact with no criminal allegations, but she names 8 co-defendants from Harrah's.  Supposedly, they all decided to cover up for Ben out of the kindness of their hearts.

So, Ben's enough of a dumb, privileged jock to think he can get away with rape, but he's also got a Cheney-like cunning and is able to buy off all the 8 other people who have knowledge of what happened?

Does that even make sense?
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« Reply #18 on: Jul 21, 2009 at 11:36 »

One thing to add to this particular case is that, not only is this being brought a year after the fact with no criminal allegations, ...

!!!1!!! A YEAR AND NOW THIS?Huh?? HAZ THAT DUM GIRL HERD OF THE STATUE OF LIBATIONS?  HA!!!11!! SHE'IN FER A SOPRISE.
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« Reply #19 on: Jul 21, 2009 at 11:54 »

Please tell me that Brian Jackson is the guy that said he was St. Pierre.

Also, as has been pointed out, this lady wants some cash and is going about it in a fucked up manner. FWIW (cue Finny's dismay at me saying this), Roethlisberger is about to experience what Pacman Jones has experienced countless times. The only difference will be that ESPN won't have a hard-on for rushing to print/broadcast misinformation about accusations about Roethlisberger, and every detail that suggests Roethlisberger is innocent will get more coverage than unfounded allegations. Good for BR, but shitty for the sad state of what is a pathetic journalism industry.

 


Wait one second...look at the track records of the two people you just compared.  I think journalism is in a sad state, but this has nothing to do with that.


The track record - or your perception of it - to which you're referring (in Jones' case) is based on several allegations like this one. In nearly all instances, it has been proven that Pacman had no involvement in any of them (as evidenced by court rulings, judges' statements, etc.). All things equal, if a few more people come forward making baseless claims that BR spit on them, smacked them, etc., you would then have to harbor the same feelings toward BR as you do against Pacman.

Regardless of whether or not charges have been dropped, or what...there seems to be a pattern of trouble no matter where he is.  If you think he's some saint, who is unfortunately always in the wrong place at the wrong time, you are sorely mistaken. 

[edit] Legal troubles
On July 14, 2005 Jones was arrested on charges of assault and felony vandalism stemming from a nightclub altercation. On September 5, 2005, Jones was a guest at the annual Nashville Sports Council Kickoff Luncheon. After a loud verbal tantrum in which he was told to wait in line for his vehicle later that evening, Jones was counseled by the police. He also refused to pay for any valet services used that evening, because he didn't have money at the time. In October 2005, in a petition filed by the State of West Virginia, it was alleged that Jones had not made regular and sufficient contact with his probation officer and that he did not report his July arrest in Nashville in a timely fashion. The court ordered the probation extended for a period of 90 days, although the state requested it to be extended one year.

On August 25, 2006, Jones was arrested in Murfreesboro, Tennessee for disorderly conduct and public intoxication after claiming that a woman stole his wallet. She claimed that she did not steal anything and Jones spat on her. Police officers said they ordered Jones to leave several times, but he refused, continuing to shout profanities at the woman. A judge granted him six months probation on the conditions that he stays out of further trouble and away from the nightclub.[33] On October 26, 2006. Jones was cited for misdemeanor assault for allegedly spitting in the face of a female student from Tennessee State University during a private party at Club Mystic, a Nashville nightclub. He was suspended by the Titans for one game and was scheduled to be booked on the charge on November 17, 2006.

Jones also is set to appear in a Fayetteville, Georgia court in 2007 for his February 2006 incident on subpoenas for felony and misdemeanor obstruction of justice charges for an incident outside a home. The charges of marijuana possession in the same state were dismissed35]

On June 18, 2007, Jones was sought by police for questioning after a shooting at an Atlanta strip club allegedly involved members of his entourage. According to police at the scene, Jones was not present during the shooting, and is not being charged.[36]

Jones was suspended from the NFL for the entire 2007 season for off-the-field conduct.[37] During his suspension Jones signed with Total Nonstop Action Wrestling, despite an agreement between TNA and the Titans organization that he would only have a "non-physical" role in the company,[38] and went on to the TNA World Tag Team Championship with Ron Killings. He also established a record label, "National Street League Records", and performed as one half of the rap duo Posterboyz.[31]


[edit] Las Vegas shooting case
On the morning of February 19, 2007, during the 2007 NBA All-Star Game weekend in Las Vegas, Jones is alleged to have been involved in an altercation with an exotic dancer at Minxx, a local strip club. Jones and American rap artist Nelly patronized the club on the evening in question. Nelly, along with someone known only as Richard Rich, began to shower the stage with hundreds of one-dollar bills; an act known as "making it rain." Jones then joined Nelly by throwing his own money for "visual effect." Club promoter Chris Mitchell then directed his dancers to collect the money. According to the club's co-owner, Jones became enraged when one of the dancers began taking the money without his permission. He allegedly grabbed her by her hair and slammed her head on the stage. A security guard intervened and scuffled with members of Jones' entourage of half a dozen people. Jones then allegedly threatened the guard's life.[39] During this time, Mitchell and a male associate left the club with a garbage bag filled with $81,020 and two Breitling watches, which police later recovered41]

More trouble followed Jones after the altercation, when drug dealer Darryl Moore reported to the police, after being busted during a deal, about his phone conversations with Jones. "We gotta slow down, man. We gotta get him focused on football, man." Moore is alleged to have said. Wiretapped phone conversations between Moore and his friends revealed Moore talking about how Jones bet on college games to earn quick money. "You know, I was talkin' to him the other day about smokin', and he was like 'man, if I didn't smoke I couldn't take all the stress that I'm dealing with right now,'" Moore said.[42] Jones has not been connected to the Moore drug arrests or convicted for the Vegas stripper incident.

On June 20, 2007, the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department and Clark County District Attorney's office announced that Jones would face two felony charges stemming from the strip club melee.[43] But on November 13, 2007, Jones accepted a plea deal;[44] on Dec. 6, Jones pleaded no contest to one charge of conspiracy to commit disorderly conduct, a misdemeanor. He was given a suspended prison sentence of one year, probation, and ordered to perform 200 hours of community service.[45]

On June 25, 2007, Tommy Urbanski and his wife Kathy sued Jones in civil court, claiming that Jones had bitten his left ankle, and was responsible for the shooting.[46] The lawsuit also named the Tennessee Titans franchise and the NFL as defendants, on the grounds that Jones' employers knew of his erratic behavior prior to the Minxx incident, but did not suspend him until afterwards. Had the Titans suspended Jones prior to the NBA All-Star game, the suit argues, he would not have been invited to the Las Vegas events, and the incident would not have taken place.[47]

On April 21, a document revealed that Jones paid $15,000 extortion money to various people after the Las Vegas shooting.

~Wikipedia~

And yes, I understand that wikipedia isn't always the most factual of sources, but there is a list of the trouble surrounding Pacman.  Both guys are or were high profile athletes, the comparisons end there.  I don't think the claims against Pacman are as "baseless" as you claim.  A guy is handicapped due to an altercation that Pacman had a significant role in starting.
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