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« on: Jul 31, 2009 at 13:54 »

Okay, feeding off the previous thread, I have an issue about beer.

I will drink a Miller Light.  I enjoy an IC Light, especially on Stiller game days.  I really don't like any Bud products, but I will take in an MGD or Coors Light.

BUT...

I prefer Guiness, Sam Adams, Killians, etc.  I'm a big fan of JW Dundee's Honey Brown, and I really like St. Bernardius.  I catch a lot of crap because these are not "manly" beers.

Why is it more "manly" to drink watered-down stuff, when Guiness and St. Bernardius are 5-12% alchohol content?  Yes, they cost more, but you don't have to drink nearly as much of it.

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« Reply #1 on: Jul 31, 2009 at 14:39 »

I think with some people it comes down to the whole imported beer vs American brewed beer debate.  If you drink one of those Euro beers, no matter the alcohol content or the fact that it doesn't taste like watered down piss, you must be a sissy of some sort.  The way I look at it, I might as well spend a little more cash and actually enjoy the taste of my beer.  It only makes sense to me.  

Anyways, I say drink what you like and cheers!

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« Reply #2 on: Jul 31, 2009 at 14:40 »

I agree, Preach.

In my opinion, drinking watery piss (Bud, Miller, Coors, Strohs, ad nauseam) is far less appealing than drinking beer with actual flavor and something resembling a kick in the pants.  (Although I'm not a fan of the Dundee, and Killians is just so-so IMO.)

My "mainstream" fallback is Yuengling, which to some is an acquired taste.  But I can drink Guinness any time; after a hard day's work in blazing summer heat, I find Guinness to be less heavy than dark, and actually very quaffable.  Have opined about my local micro before (Troegs), and have a partial case of their Summer Pils and a partial case of their Hop Back Ale right now, left over from the 45th cookout.  I tend to like the micros, but even a Sammy Adams goes back fine.

Piss beer is like eating pizza, with all the cheese and toppings scraped off.  

Of course, I've never had anyone tell me that drinking piss beer is manly and drinking real beer isn't.  
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« Reply #3 on: Jul 31, 2009 at 17:47 »

I drink New Castle, Sierra Nevada, Bass, Yuengling, and Fat Tire mostly. Bud on tap is also pretty damn good too. I can also go for PBR, and all the mainstream light beers if that's all that is there. Beer Pong tournaments in college have trained me to be able to withstand a tsunami of shitty watered down beer.

I've always gathered that people who drink heavier beer like Guinness were the hardcore beer drinkers. I really enjoy a brown or pale ale, but as far as Guinness goes...I think that's one notch above me.

Anyone try the new Budweiser American Ale? I was skeptical, but it's actually not bad.
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« Reply #4 on: Jul 31, 2009 at 17:58 »

What's so hardcore about Guinness?

Seriously?

To me it's just a nice, easygoing kinda brew.
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« Reply #5 on: Jul 31, 2009 at 20:02 »

I've always gathered that people who drink heavier beer like Guinness were the hardcore beer drinkers. I really enjoy a brown or pale ale, but as far as Guinness goes...I think that's one notch above me.

I guess it just depends on what you like.  I wouldn't consider a person a hardcore beer drinker simply because they drink Guinness.  I can drink one or two if they are offered, but after a while I get tired of the taste.  Some people swear by it, I think it's okay.

While I am not a Budweiser fan, I will give the American ale a try for the hell of it Whitmer.  I have grown fond of Harp and Yuengling over the years because those are the only two beers worth drinking at Heinz Field.  I haven't had a New Castle in a long time, but I do enjoy it.

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« Reply #6 on: Jul 31, 2009 at 20:11 »

I'll have a Guinness or maybe two, but that's usually enough for me. Couldn't really see drinking them all day/evening. Used to go to a local brew pub in Mobile and sample their menu. Stuff on tap is so much better. Was up in Ottawa a few years back, drinking Keith's. Brought a case of bottles home, just not the same.

Hear near STL, it's Bud land. I'll grab a Miller GD at the bar where we watch the games, just because I got into the habit of drinking those at the Steelers bar in MN.

Tried some Fat Tire a few months back...might grab the odd 6 pack of Blue Moon or Honey Moon.
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« Reply #7 on: Jul 31, 2009 at 20:15 »

Everybody has their own taste in beer.  Yuengling is great for the price.  Most Bud products or Coors are not for me unless there is nothing else but as for real quality beers try Smithwicks (pronounced Smiticks in the northeast or Spaten a true german beer. beer
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« Reply #8 on: Jul 31, 2009 at 20:28 »

What's so hardcore about Guinness?

Seriously?

To me it's just a nice, easygoing kinda brew.

To me it's really heavy and bitter. I can barely get through one of them. If you can sit down and have 3 or 4...well I think you have the stomach to drink a quart of Quaker State. However, I can put away a large amount of Irish Car Bombs  headbang

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While I am not a Budweiser fan, I will give the American ale a try for the hell of it Whitmer.

I was surprised by it. It's definitely in the same family as a Yuengling, Harp, or Sierra Nevada. I'd still prefer a New Castle or Sierra, but it brings a refreshing change of pace if you're in a rut with your beer selection.
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« Reply #9 on: Jul 31, 2009 at 23:41 »

Bud fan here.
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« Reply #10 on: Jul 31, 2009 at 23:51 »

there's a couple local breweries i like here...Brooklyn Lager and the Brooklyn Pennant Pale Ale are my faves and the Six Point Brews are all pretty good.  My all time fave is Sam Smith's Nut Brown Ale, it's from England and is like 4 bucks for a 22 ish size bottle but it's so damn sweet!  the older I get though i am starting to understand the simplicity of Bud in a bottle.  Hopefully the Euros taking them over won't diminish the um..taste.


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« Reply #11 on: Aug 01, 2009 at 17:02 »

I don't like the major domestics, but am a fan of many micro-brews.  Alltech brews several beers down here, including a bourbon barrel ale that they age in old bourbon barrels.  Very tasty, though, as always, better on tap than in the bottle.

I like my Guinness, some Leinenkugels (sp?), but my fave is a hard cider from England called Strongbow.  A little sweeter than beer, but also not as frothy.  And about 5 1/2% alcohol, so when people say it's a girly drink, I just smile and keep drinking.

I can't even drink Bud, Bud Light, Miller, etc. anymore.  Even if it's free.
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« Reply #12 on: Aug 01, 2009 at 17:12 »

Smithwicks is good.  Still haven't tried Sam Smith's...  Bud gives me the screamers, as does Busch, although I could theoretically stomach Miller and the rest.

Troeg's Summer Pils is 5.3%, with some sweet/floral but nicely balanced with some tart/hoppy.  IMO, the perfect summer beer.  Not bad with some citrus slices in it, but more than OK without.

http://www.troegs.com/beers_sunshine.htm

The Hopback (thank you Mike and Lori) was a birthday party contribution, and it's got a real nice hoppy hit, but it's not something that you really acclimate to.  It's 6%, so it's a sipper, too.

http://www.troegs.com/beers_hopback.htm

Their Oatmeal Stout is 6.8%, and frankly, it's thicker, heartier, darker, chewier, more everything than Guinness.  Football season, nothing beats it.  Drink your dinner, honey.

http://www.troegs.com/oatmealstout.htm

The Pale Ale may be my favorite all-around.  It's 5.4%.  I like how they have the hop bitterness scale, which provides only relative sense of bitterness since I have no clue what an IBU is. 

http://www.troegs.com/beers_pale.htm

A friend of mine works for them now, not that it gets me any free beer.  Dammit. 


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« Reply #13 on: Aug 01, 2009 at 17:39 »

My favorite was Murphy's Irish Amber, but I have not been able to find it for several years now.  I can find the stout, but it's not the same.  I also like Harps.
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« Reply #14 on: Aug 02, 2009 at 04:07 »

Psychostick - BEER!

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« Reply #15 on: Aug 02, 2009 at 06:39 »

there's a couple local breweries i like here...Brooklyn Lager and the Brooklyn Pennant Pale Ale

Fuck Brooklyn Brewery.  Motherfuckers support the stadium.
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« Reply #16 on: Aug 02, 2009 at 15:33 »

Psychostick - BEER!

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« Reply #17 on: Aug 02, 2009 at 21:50 »

Caffrey's Irish Ale was my favorite until those fuckers from Coors made sure it wasnt available in the US anymore.

But other than that, i dont care what kind of beer I drink.  Anything costing more than $15 a case is all right with me.  less taste?? who gives a crap...just drink more
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« Reply #18 on: Aug 03, 2009 at 10:17 »

Guiness, Stella, Fullers London Porter, Heinekin, Yuengling....not averse to traditional domestics, but just don't like 'em as much as I did in college. I'll never turn down anything ranging from Coors Light to a Natty Light (just saw a Natty commercial for the time ever), but am grateful for the person who poors me any of the five favs.

Finny - I had some Troegs when I first moved to Richmond a few years ago. Not bad. I have some Troegs pilsner glasses at the homestead to remind me of the occassion.

Edit: I have some Brooklyn Brewery glasses as well. Can't remember if the beer was any good, but the glasses are aight.
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« Reply #19 on: Aug 03, 2009 at 10:32 »

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Stuff on tap is so much better.

No question.  Even mediocre beer is better on tap.  One reason I like Guiness is because the sealed bottle/can gives it a very similar taste to the tap.


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My all time fave is Sam Smith's Nut Brown Ale,

Tried it for the first time this weekend, and it was excellent! 

I like to try the microbrews around town, although I've never really found one that was a "favorite."  I usually take in a sampler if I'm in a place that has a wide micro selection.
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« Reply #20 on: Aug 03, 2009 at 10:54 »

there's a couple local breweries i like here...Brooklyn Lager and the Brooklyn Pennant Pale Ale

Fuck Brooklyn Brewery.  Motherfuckers support the stadium.

I didn't know that, but regardless i still like the beer.  I thought the stadium is crushed anyway.
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« Reply #21 on: Aug 04, 2009 at 03:43 »

Anyone try Sweetwater Blue or Sweetwater 420? I play cards every Monday night, and we rotate who brings beer. Which normally brings a pretty diverse beer selection. Someone last night brought Blue and 420, and I thought it was pretty damn good. I've had 420 on tap(agree that beer from the keg is always better) a few months back and liked it, but completely forgot about it until yesterday. Good stuff.
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« Reply #22 on: Aug 04, 2009 at 08:37 »

Big Virgil says no to beer!!!!!  Never liked it and therefore never acquired the taste.  To me it is just as nasty as wine.

Gimme some whiskey (whiskey sour, Manhattan etc), tequila (margarita or other concoction) Rum, Vodka tini's, or just about anything mixed with vodka.

I get a lot of crap for drinking "fussy stuff" but most of it has 5x or 6x the alcohol content of beer, so who is really the sissy?  Hmmm? Hmmmm?
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« Reply #23 on: Aug 04, 2009 at 08:44 »

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« Reply #24 on: Aug 04, 2009 at 09:10 »

Big Virgil says no to beer!!!!!  Never liked it and therefore never acquired the taste.  To me it is just as nasty as wine.

Gimme some whiskey (whiskey sour, Manhattan etc), tequila (margarita or other concoction) Rum, Vodka tini's, or just about anything mixed with vodka.

I get a lot of crap for drinking "fussy stuff" but most of it has 5x or 6x the alcohol content of beer, so who is really the sissy?  Hmmm? Hmmmm?

I probably drink more wine and less beer now than I did, say, 10 years ago. 

Cheap beer tastes like cheap piss.  You can find some nice wine bargains, but at the end of the day even an expensive beer is cheaper than that.  Now, when it comes to distilled spirits, I can't take any cheap shit, either.  Not necessarily saying I have to drink Johnny Walker Blue at $175 a fifth or some shit, but if you're slugging back Popov vodka, you're gonna have a ringer the next morning.  So I do enjoy hard stuff, if good quality, but more on special occasions and nights out.

Everyday drinking:  wine, beer.

Hard stuff:  Scotch, bourbon, real martinis (gin, not vodka), anejo tequila (straight, never mixed).  The only thing you need with Scotch or bourbon is ice and a whisper of water, and preferably a good cigar.  There are so many good brands and styles I can't even begin to get into them all, but I do love Macallan (12, 18 y.o), Jim Beam black label is pretty decent value and taste, and Knob Creek is rockin'.  Vodka martinis, what's the point?  Most newbies like Bombay Sapphire, which is fine, but good old Tangueray remains the standard, while Hendrick's is my choice if I have some extra bucks to burn.  Don't know the brands of anejo so well, although Tres Hermanos comes to mind.  Went to a local Mexican restaurant where they don't serve the usual rice-beans-shitfest, it's real, fresh, good Mexican cuisine, and I ordered a flight of anejo shots.  Wow.  Right up there with good Scotch, seriously.  I do make kickin' margaritas, but not from some high fructose mix: I juice up a ton of limes and lemons, and add some Triple Sec and a healthy dose of reposado, which IMO is much better than the usual white or gold tequila.  I've had some good aged rum that was smooth enough to drink on the rocks, but don't drink much of the stuff otherwise.  (Dark rum is a key ingredient in my smoked salmon, though!)

I figure I'll remain well enough preserved that even if I kick the bucket tomorrow, I won't start to rot for another 50 years.  Weekend at Finny's!
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« Reply #25 on: Aug 04, 2009 at 09:14 »

Anyone try Sweetwater Blue or Sweetwater 420? I play cards every Monday night, and we rotate who brings beer. Which normally brings a pretty diverse beer selection. Someone last night brought Blue and 420, and I thought it was pretty damn good. I've had 420 on tap(agree that beer from the keg is always better) a few months back and liked it, but completely forgot about it until yesterday. Good stuff.

Had some 420 of both varieties the other night. The beer was ok - reminded me of Dogfish Head.
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« Reply #26 on: Aug 04, 2009 at 09:28 »

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Couldn't agree more! I gave up beer a few years ago, nasty stuff that makes me bloated and barfy. So the rule now on football Sundays is everytime the Steelers get a TD, I get to have a shot of bourbon. TD's only, field goals don't count.
Suffice to say, I've been pretty well hammered at the end of some games!
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That basket is for Otis.  I figured you needed to ride in the basket a couple of times before we turn you loose on your own bike sporting the new bike shorts.
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« Reply #28 on: Aug 04, 2009 at 10:19 »

Big Virgil says no to beer!!!!!  Never liked it and therefore never acquired the taste.  To me it is just as nasty as wine.

Gimme some whiskey (whiskey sour, Manhattan etc), tequila (margarita or other concoction) Rum, Vodka tini's, or just about anything mixed with vodka.

I get a lot of crap for drinking "fussy stuff" but most of it has 5x or 6x the alcohol content of beer, so who is really the sissy?  Hmmm? Hmmmm?

I probably drink more wine and less beer now than I did, say, 10 years ago. 

Cheap beer tastes like cheap piss.  You can find some nice wine bargains, but at the end of the day even an expensive beer is cheaper than that.  Now, when it comes to distilled spirits, I can't take any cheap shit, either.  Not necessarily saying I have to drink Johnny Walker Blue at $175 a fifth or some shit, but if you're slugging back Popov vodka, you're gonna have a ringer the next morning.  So I do enjoy hard stuff, if good quality, but more on special occasions and nights out.

Everyday drinking:  wine, beer.

Hard stuff:  Scotch, bourbon, real martinis (gin, not vodka), anejo tequila (straight, never mixed).  The only thing you need with Scotch or bourbon is ice and a whisper of water, and preferably a good cigar.  There are so many good brands and styles I can't even begin to get into them all, but I do love Macallan (12, 18 y.o), Jim Beam black label is pretty decent value and taste, and Knob Creek is rockin'.  Vodka martinis, what's the point?  Most newbies like Bombay Sapphire, which is fine, but good old Tangueray remains the standard, while Hendrick's is my choice if I have some extra bucks to burn.  Don't know the brands of anejo so well, although Tres Hermanos comes to mind.  Went to a local Mexican restaurant where they don't serve the usual rice-beans-shitfest, it's real, fresh, good Mexican cuisine, and I ordered a flight of anejo shots.  Wow.  Right up there with good Scotch, seriously.  I do make kickin' margaritas, but not from some high fructose mix: I juice up a ton of limes and lemons, and add some Triple Sec and a healthy dose of reposado, which IMO is much better than the usual white or gold tequila.  I've had some good aged rum that was smooth enough to drink on the rocks, but don't drink much of the stuff otherwise.  (Dark rum is a key ingredient in my smoked salmon, though!)

I figure I'll remain well enough preserved that even if I kick the bucket tomorrow, I won't start to rot for another 50 years.  Weekend at Finny's!

I do like Gin martini's, but I would drink two of them in 15 minutes and be a little sloppy after 30 minutes.  I could start drinking at half-time, and be asleep by 3rd qtr kick-off - lol.

I don't care for scotch, and haven't acquired enough of a taste for Bourbon to drink it straight or slightly watered.  I like good tequila, but I'm too cheap to buy it.  I do buy Hornitos for the house.  I don't know how to desribe it, but it is tasty.  I prefer Italian margarita's so that is what I make at home.  Hornitos, Limeade, Orange Juice, and Amaretto.  I don't generally like margarita mix, so my recipes use Limeade and other stuff.  A lot of sugar in the Limeade though.
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« Reply #29 on: Aug 04, 2009 at 14:24 »

I never could stomach dark beers...like someone said, too heavy and bitter.  The darkest I will go is Yuengling, which happens to be my favorite.  Ironically, I don't like the watered-down crap anymore either, so Yuengling it is.  I will drink IC Light on occasion for nostalgia purposes.  Good thing I can get Yuengling here in FL.
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« Reply #30 on: Aug 04, 2009 at 14:40 »

I don't mind the cheap domestics, but enjoy figuring out the local cheaps.  In Baltimore, that's National Bohemian.  When I was in Charleston, SC, it was Pabst.  Don't drink 'em often but they are good (and priced right) before catching an O's game.

I recently have enjoyed Sam Adams Summer. 

Really enjoyed "Longboard" while in Hawaii last year...actually found it on tap at a local bar.

Some micros around Baltimore is the Resurrection
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« Reply #31 on: Aug 05, 2009 at 05:31 »

Yeah, I like drinking shitty local beers when I'm in the locale.

My sister lives in Baltimore, very near the ol' Natty Boh Brewery on Brewer's Hill. Nothing like walking the block down to the local dive and cramming a couple of dollar Natty Boh's prior to a Steelers win over the Shitbirds.

Otherwise, I'll go premium at home. I float back and forth from beer and wine. Maybe it's a seasonal thing;  in fall and winter I'm more likely to be drinking a red than beer.

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