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« on: Sep 10, 2009 at 22:56 »

1) Ben is still the man
2) Holmes has finally taken his rightful place as our #1 WR.
3) Wallace not only looks fast but made a clutch, heady play.  This kid could be special.  Ward owes him a steak.
4) Our running game is pathetic.
5) The Summers project might be a very short lived one.
6) The OL actually looked decent in pass protection.  They couldn't open a running lane if their lives depended on it.
7) Ariens play calling hasn't gotten any better.
Cool I was expecting a little more from the joystick.  Hope he's not all hype.
9) Our D really misses Troy when he's gone.
10) We are again the team to beat.   headbang
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« Reply #1 on: Sep 10, 2009 at 23:00 »

1) Ben is still the man
2) Holmes has finally taken his rightful place as our #1 WR.
3) Wallace not only looks fast but made a clutch, heady play.  This kid could be special.
4) Our running game is pathetic.
5) The Summers project might be a very short lived one.
6) The OL actually looked decent in pass protection.  They couldn't open a running lane if their lives depended on it.
7) Ariens play calling hasn't gotten any better.
Cool I was expecting a little more from the joystick.  Hope he's not all hype.
9) Our D really misses Troy when he's gone.
10) We are again the team to beat.

Ben is definitely the man.  Jeff Reed might be the second man.
Danny is the best punter we could hope for.  I love that kid.

I almost puked when Troy left.  I'm not sure I can bear it if this injury is serious.  I may need medication.

But thank God/Buddha/Mohammed/Yahweh/Isis/Zeus, it was a win.
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« Reply #2 on: Sep 10, 2009 at 23:13 »

1) Ben is still the man
2) Holmes has finally taken his rightful place as our #1 WR.
3) Wallace not only looks fast but made a clutch, heady play.  This kid could be special.
4) Our running game is pathetic.
5) The Summers project might be a very short lived one.
6) The OL actually looked decent in pass protection.  They couldn't open a running lane if their lives depended on it.
7) Ariens play calling hasn't gotten any better.
Cool I was expecting a little more from the joystick.  Hope he's not all hype.
9) Our D really misses Troy when he's gone.
10) We are again the team to beat.

Ben is definitely the man.  Jeff Reed might be the second man.
Danny is the best punter we could hope for.  I love that kid.

I almost puked when Troy left.  I'm not sure I can bear it if this injury is serious.  I may need medication.

But thank God/Buddha/Mohammed/Yahweh/Isis/Zeus, it was a win.

Good point...should have added that.  Having Dan back is huge!
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« Reply #3 on: Sep 11, 2009 at 07:42 »

I would say it wasn't only the O-line's fault in the running game. I saw a few times where Willie just cut the wrong way or just missed the opening. The Titan's also have a really good front 7 which also was a contributing factor. The O-line also played great in the 4th quarter, and for the life of me, I can't figure out why they can't do that all game. They seem to gel late in games all of the time.

Yeah and Ben is unbelievable and will soon start to be mentioned with Manning and Brady as the best QB in the NFL.
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« Reply #4 on: Sep 11, 2009 at 07:51 »

I would say it wasn't only the O-line's fault in the running game. I saw a few times where Willie just cut the wrong way or just missed the opening. The Titan's also have a really good front 7 which also was a contributing factor. The O-line also played great in the 4th quarter, and for the life of me, I can't figure out why they can't do that all game. They seem to gel late in games all of the time.

Yeah and Ben is unbelievable and will soon start to be mentioned with Manning and Brady as the best QB in the NFL.

I saw the same plays you did and there were definite times where Parker should have either cut back, or cut to the outside but instead ran straight ahead, but for the most part, our OL is horrible against the run. They played great in the 4th Quarter because we pretty much totally abandoned the running game. That worked this time, but I wonder if it will continue to work once teams know that they don't have to defend the run at all.

And about Ben, I'll believe it when I see it, because he still had more INTs than TDs. People are even saying that Rivers and Brees are better. It's a stat driven league, and most "experts" won't bother to look past them to what actually happens on the field when determining who are the great QBs.
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« Reply #5 on: Sep 11, 2009 at 08:00 »

I would say it wasn't only the O-line's fault in the running game. I saw a few times where Willie just cut the wrong way or just missed the opening. The Titan's also have a really good front 7 which also was a contributing factor. The O-line also played great in the 4th quarter, and for the life of me, I can't figure out why they can't do that all game. They seem to gel late in games all of the time.

Yeah and Ben is unbelievable and will soon start to be mentioned with Manning and Brady as the best QB in the NFL.

Horseface Shannon Sharpe said today on Sirius NFL Radio that if he were building a franchise today, and needed a QB, his first choice would be Ben. I have been saying that for 5 years, nice to see some national recognition for something we already knew.
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« Reply #6 on: Sep 11, 2009 at 08:01 »

I would say it wasn't only the O-line's fault in the running game. I saw a few times where Willie just cut the wrong way or just missed the opening. The Titan's also have a really good front 7 which also was a contributing factor. The O-line also played great in the 4th quarter, and for the life of me, I can't figure out why they can't do that all game. They seem to gel late in games all of the time.

Yeah and Ben is unbelievable and will soon start to be mentioned with Manning and Brady as the best QB in the NFL.

I saw the same plays you did and there were definite times where Parker should have either cut back, or cut to the outside but instead ran straight ahead, but for the most part, our OL is horrible against the run. They played great in the 4th Quarter because we pretty much totally abandoned the running game. That worked this time, but I wonder if it will continue to work once teams know that they don't have to defend the run at all.

And about Ben, I'll believe it when I see it, because he still had more INTs than TDs. People are even saying that Rivers and Brees are better. It's a stat driven league, and most "experts" won't bother to look past them to what actually happens on the field when determining who are the great QBs.

I'll give Ben a pass on the 2nd interception, the first one was just horrible. The no-huddle offense seems to be used with the utmost precision and I don't know why they don't use it more. That may be a way to get the run game on track, wearing down the other defense and using the pass to set up the run. IIRC, the early '90's Bills used the no-huddle to great success and I think we could too.
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« Reply #7 on: Sep 11, 2009 at 08:05 »



I'll give Ben a pass on the 2nd interception, the first one was just horrible. The no-huddle offense seems to be used with the utmost precision and I don't know why they don't use it more. That may be a way to get the run game on track, wearing down the other defense and using the pass to set up the run. IIRC, the early '90's Bills used the no-huddle to great success and I think we could too.

Ignoring the hail mary pick, Ben threw just one tonight, which I think is pretty good. Any QB attempting 48 passes (I'm counting sacks as attempts here) in one game is going to throw at least one.That he threw ONLY one against a team that didn't need to respect our running game is actually pretty awesome, I think.
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« Reply #8 on: Sep 11, 2009 at 08:12 »



I'll give Ben a pass on the 2nd interception, the first one was just horrible. The no-huddle offense seems to be used with the utmost precision and I don't know why they don't use it more. That may be a way to get the run game on track, wearing down the other defense and using the pass to set up the run. IIRC, the early '90's Bills used the no-huddle to great success and I think we could too.

Ignoring the hail mary pick, Ben threw just one tonight, which I think is pretty good. Any QB attempting 48 passes (I'm counting sacks as attempts here) in one game is going to throw at least one.That he threw ONLY one against a team that didn't need to respect our running game is actually pretty awesome, I think.

I agree. And that second pick. Shit, he threw that ball a LOOOOOONNNNNNNGGGGG way. What an arm!
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« Reply #9 on: Sep 11, 2009 at 10:17 »

In regards to the running game (or lack there of), cant help but wonder how many of those 3rd / 4th and shorts Mr. Redmond would have picked up..............

I know keeping him on was next to impossible due to RB numbers but still cant help help but wonder...........
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« Reply #10 on: Sep 11, 2009 at 10:48 »

I think we have to give Mendenhall a much more serious look. I know he hasn't been exactly productive -- but he seems to hit the LOS with more burst than Parker, who does too much dancing.

Parker also looks like he's lost a step. Watch the highlights from his first game as a starter against Tennessee, and the ones from recent games -- and it is not the same back. Granted, I think he's bulked up a bit and maybe that's added some power and durability at the cost of some speed, but I think it points to a rapid decline to his productivity.

Parker had a couple of plays where he made a decent move to keep the first tackler from getting square on him, and, had he slipped through that first tackler's grasp, would have had a decent gain; but each time, he was arm-tackled.
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« Reply #11 on: Sep 11, 2009 at 10:53 »

Yards after the back gets hit.  FWP = 0.  RM = 2,3...  Just sayin', he's not getting any gift from the OL either, but he pushes it.  In what little data we have to go on thanks to Brucellosis.
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« Reply #12 on: Sep 11, 2009 at 11:58 »

Yards after the back gets hit.  FWP = 0.  RM = 2,3...  Just sayin', he's not getting any gift from the OL either, but he pushes it.  In what little data we have to go on thanks to Brucellosis.

Exactly. I think Mendenhall runs with what Tomlin might call "violence." He's got a powerful frame and he accelerates quickly and aggressively to the gap - or where it's supposed to be. He makes contact with defenders forcefully.
Give him enough carries, and he'll start to wear defenders down and pop some big runs, I think. I don't think he's the kind of back who will look any good getting 3 to 5 carries a game. He just won't.

Something about his game tells me that he plays a bit like the coaches don't trust him, so he plays a little nervously, and so the trust never builds, and he might be stuck in limbo for a while. Too bad, I think.
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« Reply #13 on: Sep 11, 2009 at 12:11 »

i really don't give a fuck what the "experts" say, I would not want anyone else behind center other than Ben.  He instills a confidence in me where I just know he's going to win.  so it's 15 4th quarter comeback wins now?  amazing. 

Our O line looked much better than last year.  One sack was Ben's fault he should've thrown the ball away once he eluded that first tackle.  Troy out is HUGE.  our D was picked apart by the drunk after he's out.  Running game is non existent.  Glad to have Robopunter back, that first punt to the 2 was awesome and Logan gets me excited.  Starting on the 45 as opposed to the 15 is a major key to continue the winning ways.
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« Reply #14 on: Sep 11, 2009 at 12:16 »

Our O line looked much better than last year. 

1.6 YPC rushing.

I'll beg to differ.
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« Reply #15 on: Sep 11, 2009 at 12:38 »

i was basing my opinion on the fact that Ben seemed to have much more time in the pocket but yes as i said earlier, running game is non existent.
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« Reply #16 on: Sep 11, 2009 at 12:54 »

i was basing my opinion on the fact that Ben seemed to have much more time in the pocket but yes as i said earlier, running game is non existent.

We'll see.  Let's see what happens when teams rush more than 4 guys.  Gosh, the Ravens would never do that.

Ben's on pace for another 45-50 sack year.  'Ooray.
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« Reply #17 on: Sep 11, 2009 at 13:07 »

Our O line looked much better than last year on passing plays.

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« Reply #18 on: Sep 11, 2009 at 13:09 »

um...thanks.
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