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« on: Mar 22, 2010 at 11:43 »

Love it or loathe it, it is nice to finally see the gubmint get close to getting something done.
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« Reply #1 on: Mar 22, 2010 at 12:14 »

Kind of like going through almost a quarter of football where all the action has been penalties, and finally there's a punt.

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« Reply #2 on: Mar 22, 2010 at 13:15 »

Love it or loathe it, it is nice to finally see the gubmint get close to getting something done.


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« Reply #3 on: Mar 22, 2010 at 17:54 »

Kind of like going through almost a quarter of football where all the action has been penalties, and finally there's a punt.

'Ooray!

Obviously it's not the New Deal (no matter what Hatchet Pelosi says) but think of how damning it would be for Obama next election if he didn't have a single thing to point to as accomplished.  And this is no hill of beans; many a political career has foundered on the rocks of health care, not least of which is Hilary.

From the perspective of avoiding another Carter administration, and the fascist hell which followed, this is very important indeed.
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« Reply #4 on: Mar 23, 2010 at 09:26 »

The bill's neither as good nor as bad as each side says it is. 

Midterms still promise to be brutal for Dems, regardless of passage.  Obama would need a pretty amazing change in the UC rate and a few other chips to fall his way for that not to transpire.  Can't see out to 2012: thought 2010 would look a lot different after the 2008 elections, after all.  But it is an opportunity to learn a valuable lesson in how our government "works!"

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« Reply #5 on: Mar 23, 2010 at 11:01 »



"From the perspective of avoiding another Carter administration, and the fascist hell which followed, this is very important indeed."




Heh....not sure I ever heard the 80's referred to as a "fascist hell" before.
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« Reply #6 on: Mar 23, 2010 at 11:15 »

Two sides to every story.

Some felt W's terms were hell; others now think O's are.  All a matter of perspective.                 

The trend towards canonizing Reagan ignores some very serious issues, however.     
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« Reply #7 on: Mar 23, 2010 at 11:18 »

Mike Tomlin told me he plans to unleash fascist hell on all opponents, this season.
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« Reply #8 on: Mar 23, 2010 at 11:38 »



"From the perspective of avoiding another Carter administration, and the fascist hell which followed, this is very important indeed."

Heh....not sure I ever heard the 80's referred to as a "fascist hell" before.

Rhetorical overstatement, but not by much.  The 80's were a pretty miserable time culturally speaking, and Reagan gave the Bushies the template for blatantly disregarding the constitution.


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« Reply #9 on: Mar 23, 2010 at 13:47 »

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Love it or loathe it, it is nice to finally see the gubmint get close to getting something done.

Have to disagree.  I would have been much happier with nothing getting done.  Signing a bill just to "do something" usually does not end well, no matter which side is pushing it through.

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As noted, all about perspective I guess.
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