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Question: What should the Steelers do when Ben returns?
Trade him for a fifth round draft pick. - 0 (0%)
Sign Trent Edwards and cut Ben. - 1 (11.1%)
Have Tomlin ask him every week if he's really, REALLY sorry.  "Are you sure?"  And then deactivate him every week anyway, because he can't ever be sorry enough. - 0 (0%)
Tell him to get the fuck out and never come back. - 0 (0%)
Throw bricks at him. - 0 (0%)
Shut down the season and have the entire team go on Oprah to discuss how this situation has really hurt everyone's feelings. - 1 (11.1%)
Trade Ben and a first round draft pick for the electrifying Michael Vick. - 0 (0%)
Petition Commisar Goodell to allow the Steelers to change Ben's uniform to sack cloth and a dunce cap. - 1 (11.1%)
Let him get his starting job back when he can make James Harrison smile. - 4 (44.4%)
Bring Elvis out of retirement to work him over with some karate. - 2 (22.2%)
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« on: Sep 28, 2010 at 15:33 »

BUG BEN REOTHISBERGER WILL RUNE THIS TEAM YET< GET RID OFF HIM WHILE WE CAN, CMON RONNEYS DO THE RITE THINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111!!!
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« Reply #1 on: Sep 28, 2010 at 17:11 »

Funny stuff, but we were talking at the bar on sunday on how this team seems to be a unified group.  Lebeau's defenses always seem like family, but there doesn't seem to be an offense/defense divide with this team.

Chemistry?  Maybe.  I don't think they'll let Ben be a distraction; I don't think Ben will conduct himself distractingly either, but this is a team with veteran leadership in all the right places and a group of youngsters who buy in to the on- and off-field persona of a Pittsburgh Steeler.

It's a just a shame Ben is late to the party. 
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« Reply #2 on: Sep 28, 2010 at 19:23 »

The whole team seems ready to prove that the Great Slide of 2009 was an utter aberration.  If this defense stays healthy, it can be as good as the 2008 group.  The offense has shown its limitation and promise: the OL tho' seems to hold the promise of keeping Ben alive.  Young WRs, three in number, could be utterly explosive late this season.  Tomlin has rallied the shattered group.

Shame Ben is late?  Ben will be the freshest meaningful QB this postseason.  And he, like the youngsters, is finally buying in to the system persona. 

Shudder to think how good this team could be this year.  When all seemed fucked.
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« Reply #3 on: Sep 28, 2010 at 19:49 »


Shudder to think how good this team could be this year.  When all seemed fucked.

I was just thinking that exact thought today, about how pessimistic I was about this team going into the season (a pessimism that I know was shared by a lot of others on this site).  Obviously there is still a long way to go, but this team should definitely contend if the team remains relatively healthy.

Amazing how perspective can change with just a few games.
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« Reply #4 on: Sep 28, 2010 at 19:53 »

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Shame Ben is late?  Ben will be the freshest meaningful QB this postseason.  And he, like the youngsters, is finally buying in to the system persona.

Agree with both of you.  The best thing the Steelers could do is to make him realize that he IS expendable to this team, that it's the TEAM that really makes the difference.  There is nothing that will bring Ben slinking back in humility like this team being 4-0 when he returns.  

I could honestly see Tomlin starting Batch in game 5, just to illustrate the point, but it won't go much beyond that.  No need to continue piling on.  Maybe I'm just a cockeyed optimist, but I think Ben has a chance to come back and be better than ever as a player and, hopefully, as a person.  

No, he ain't gonna be nominated for deacon anywhere (although I've known a few who were several notches below Ben), but I think he's going to give this team a boost on offense that could really make them something special.
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« Reply #5 on: Sep 28, 2010 at 23:45 »

I could honestly see Tomlin starting Batch in game 5, just to illustrate the point, but it won't go much beyond that.  No need to continue piling on.  

Er, not starting Ben in game 5 would constitute piling on.
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« Reply #6 on: Sep 29, 2010 at 00:38 »

DUM IDIOTIS....

VICK IS DA REALZ DEAL AND BEN SHULD BEEN TRADE OFF TO PHILLYDELFEIA FOR HIM RIGHT NOW. VICK NOW IS POCKETT QB FOR REAL, DEM HAS SPEED SKILLZ TO RUN AND KICK FIELD GOALS CUZ JEEF MISSES SOME AND DEN HE PUNTS THEN RETURNS PUNTS AND KICKOFFS AND PLAYS SAFETIES ON DEFENCE SOMETIMES. VICK ALSO WENT TO BIG HOUZE SO HE MEAN AND BAD AND VICK IS ROLLED MODEL FOR KIDS I SAW HIM DO STUFF LIKEN THAT.

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« Reply #7 on: Sep 29, 2010 at 00:57 »

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Er, not starting Ben in game 5 would constitute piling on.

I would agree, but just saying that it wouldn't shock me to see it happen.
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« Reply #8 on: Sep 29, 2010 at 08:28 »

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Sounds like you and Elaine have been reading Billy Mumfrey stories again.
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« Reply #9 on: Sep 29, 2010 at 10:49 »

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/opinion/s_701520.html

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« Reply #10 on: Sep 29, 2010 at 11:32 »

Cute article from the Trib.

*violently shaking the message board*

Wake the eff up people!  When Ben comes back, he's the starter. 

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« Reply #11 on: Sep 29, 2010 at 12:35 »

Wake the eff up people!  When Ben comes back, he's the starter. 

Forgot to mention, provided that he can get a laugh outta Mr. Harrison.
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« Reply #12 on: Sep 29, 2010 at 13:09 »

Read the article.  Time off my life that I can never get back.
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« Reply #13 on: Sep 29, 2010 at 13:59 »

Read the article.  Time off my life that I can never get back.

Skimmed it.  Seconds wasted.

Fuckers.
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« Reply #14 on: Sep 29, 2010 at 14:35 »

The Trb sucks, it's like FOX News in print.
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« Reply #15 on: Sep 29, 2010 at 15:05 »

The Trb sucks, it's like FOX News in print.

What, they just make shit up too?

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« Reply #16 on: Sep 29, 2010 at 18:54 »



the excellence of this journalism should be obvious by the fact that the writer didn't even get the timing of leftwich's injury correct.

as for what we should do with ben when he returns, i was surprised to not see the following among the options in the poll:

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« Reply #17 on: Sep 29, 2010 at 21:58 »

If Dem CHEEPP AZZ Runyies would had payd RodER Goofdell waz he wantd BUGS BENS WOuld hvae Nevr be Gone so, longs!!!!!111!!
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Sing Mik Vik NOWWW !!!!!111!!!
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« Reply #18 on: Sep 29, 2010 at 23:26 »

Damn this thread.  Im laughin like a fool at Bubby!  Killer pic! 
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« Reply #19 on: Sep 30, 2010 at 08:19 »

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If Dem CHEEPP AZZ Runyies would had payd RodER Goofdell waz he wantd BUGS BENS WOuld hvae Nevr be Gone so, longs!!!!!111!!
BugsBens<<< dan ChArlyi Batchs
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Wow, that is crassic.
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« Reply #20 on: Sep 30, 2010 at 17:52 »

The Trb sucks, it's like FOX News in print.

What, they just make shit up too?



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« Reply #21 on: Sep 30, 2010 at 17:58 »

The Trb sucks, it's like FOX News in print.

What, they just make shit up too?



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« Reply #22 on: Oct 01, 2010 at 08:32 »

The Trb sucks, it's like FOX News in print.


What, they just make shit up too?




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Fucking Glenn Beck, making millions because he carries around a bag of sliced onions that allows him to cry on command.

Not that I want Glenn Beck's onions.  


The guy is a joke.  Here's an article that I haven't read yet and thus, cannot recommend one way or the other.  http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/03/magazine/03beck-t.html?_r=1&src=me&ref=general

Wow, this thread got hijacked.  That never happens around here!
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« Reply #23 on: Oct 01, 2010 at 11:59 »

I'll try to get it back on track while stirring the pot a little.

*fast forward a few, three weeks*

Pittsburgh managed to jump out to a 4-0 record after beating up the Ravens at home on October 3rd.  Batch plays a solid, but unspectacular game; Mendenhall averages a respectable 4.2 YPC and the defense manages to hold off a late game, final drive rally by Flacco & Co. for a 16-10 win.  BTW, Polamalu records his 3rd INT of the season at the Steeler 10 yard line to seal the deal.

Cruising into the bye, the Steelers and their fans are flying high.  Team is clicking; everyone is (relatively) healthy; and OBTW, they get their starting QB back this week.  Ben comes back to practice looking a little leaner and lot humbled.  He jumps right into the swing, but looks very rusty.  Timing with the receivers is off and his stamina isn't what it should be for an NFL QB going into Week #5.  Still, assurances are made that he'll be ready for the Browns (*laughs*) when they stroll into town on the 17th.  After all, he and BA have two weeks to prepare, right?

The week following the bye, #7 seems to be getting into a groove.  Drills were sharp and crisp and he appears to be on the same page with the rest of the offense.  Unfortunately, the smooth transition came to an abrupt halt against, of all teams, the Vagina coached Browns.  Pittsburgh commits a boatload of penalties and turns the ball over a season high 4 times en route to a 13-10 upset that lacked offense on both sides, but included a Josh Cribbs KO return for a TD.  A sad, sad day of uninspired and sloppy football on the day their leader returned.  Tomlin assures everyone that hell will be raised or somethin' this week leading up to their next opponent, the Fins.

Once again, Ben and the offense appear to have a good week of practice.  Extra filmstudy to eliminate the missed assignments and longer than expected drills to weed out the stupid mental errors.  Everyone looks sharp and focused.  A loss to the lowly Browns is just the wakeup call they needed to get back in gear.  No team is a gimmee.  They'll be ready for the Fins and the heat (again) when they fly down to My-Hammy, for sure.

This one plays out a little more, but not quite exactly as expected.  Pittsburgh gets the offense rolling and manages to put some offensive points on the board.  Going into the half, the Steelers are up 23-10.  Fans expect to get a heavy dose of Mendenhall and Redman for the final 30 minutes.  Miami opens the 2nd half with a sustained TD drive following good field position from the opening kickoff.  Henne connects with some random, white WR that nobody's ever heard of, but managed to burn Ike Taylor in the back corner of the EZ.  After a field position battle that goes about halfway into the 4th, BR throws an ill advised INT to #17 into double coverage.  A nice return sets up Miami's second TD of the half and the outright lead with plenty of time remaining on the clock (3:18).  No biggee.  Who's better at 4th quarter come from behind drives than #7?

Following a few questionable playcalls and an ill-advised, inauspicious QB sweep attempt, Pittsburgh finds themselves staring at 4th and 7 on their own 47 yard line with :52 remaining.  The Steelers elect to go spread on 4th with Ward and Miller likely being the desired targets.  Unfortunately, Ben telegraphs his intentions and Channing Crowder steps in front of a pass intended for Miller down the seam that would've given Pittsburgh the first down and inside track to a winning FG attempt.  Another turnover.  That's 3 on the day for #7, 2 pickles and a fumble during a scramble.  Kneel down.  Ball game.

A team that went 4-0 without their starting QB just lost their second game in a row to an "inferior" opponent.  The fan rumblings are starting and they're getting progressively louder...quickly.  Steeler online message boards are awash with fury.  On one particular site, posters from Maximum Grilled Steelers burn coozies and custom made jerseys in effigy during a backyard grill session.  Rumor has it that "Broken Face" from the Pixies was the driving force behind the incident.

Up next, the Champs, at their place, on MNF.  4-3 after that game is a very realistic possibility; after a 4-0 start, that would be devastating.  Ben has looked competent, but very shaky, out of sync and mistake prone due to poor decisions.

It's a question with a seemingly easy answer...or is it?  Who do you go with on MNF?
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« Reply #24 on: Oct 01, 2010 at 12:51 »

Simple answer is it's likely that Ben is the first QB on the team that will record a loss, they aren't going 16-0 after all. But he's also the only QB on the team that IMO can win a Super Bowl. Even if the team is 4-0 without Ben and falls down to 4-4 with him, stick with the franchise.
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« Reply #25 on: Oct 01, 2010 at 13:11 »

Simple answer is it's likely that Ben is the first QB on the team that will record a loss, they aren't going 16-0 after all. But he's also the only QB on the team that IMO can win a Super Bowl. Even if the team is 4-0 without Ben and falls down to 4-4 with him, stick with the franchise.

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« Reply #26 on: Oct 01, 2010 at 13:17 »

Very nice commentary AJ I was laughing out loud while reading, esp. the white receiver no one has heard of....haha.  Although compelling drama for the media if this unfolds, Big Ben is the franchise and we have to stick by the 2 time superbowl winner if this transpires.  If Batch was a superbowl quarterback, he wouldn't have been lingering as our 3rd stringer for the last how many years, right? 

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« Reply #27 on: Oct 01, 2010 at 13:38 »

Clicked on that link, saw the title "Ben Who?" Then quickly closed it.  That article doesn't deserve to be read.
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« Reply #28 on: Oct 01, 2010 at 13:52 »

I'd like to comment on the team's outstanding performance, but I'm a 'lil busy with this crow burger.



Talks of 4-3?  Musta been a tasty burger.  Apparently you wanna eat another one.
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« Reply #29 on: Oct 01, 2010 at 14:00 »

Talks of 4-3?  Musta been a tasty burger.  Apparently you wanna eat another one.

Shit.  If that's what it takes, I'd add 'em to my diet.  Gimmee 16 of those mo'fos.
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