Friggin' Worthless Opinions

[Preacherman0]

[kluisi61]

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[Merman1983]

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[kluisi61]

To one of your other points, ben can't get back soon enough. Playing a defense like the Ravens really exposes Batch's shortcomings not only in arm strength and accuracy but decision making. There were at least 2 times yesterday that Batch had about 10 seconds in the pocket and couldn't decide whether to run or throw the ball away and ended up taking a sack. He missed alot of throws that I have to think ben makes too.

I'm not so sure that this particular beef with CB will get any better with BR.

[BleedGreen710]

To one of your other points, ben can't get back soon enough. Playing a defense like the Ravens really exposes Batch's shortcomings not only in arm strength and accuracy but decision making. There were at least 2 times yesterday that Batch had about 10 seconds in the pocket and couldn't decide whether to run or throw the ball away and ended up taking a sack. He missed alot of throws that I have to think ben makes too.

I'm not so sure that this particular beef with CB will get any better with BR.

Really??  Ben has proven that holding onto the ball results in favorable plays as often (probably more often) as they result in sacks or turnovers...  There were at least 3 times yesterday when I just screamed, "throw the ball!"  I mean, the corner's are supposedly b-more's weakness, right?  You can't tell me they were that good in coverage that Charlie couldn't find anybody open...  He seemed to be seeing things at least a second or two later than Ben would see things.  Even that time when he hit Wallace streaking across the field for the first down, he had all day to get the ball to him, and waited till the last second...  Wallace got tackled right afterwards...if he throws it earlier, who knows what kind or room wallace has to run with...

[Brinker]

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"He'll just smile and be cordial out there. Then he'll kill you."
--Aaron Smith, Defensive Lineman, on Troy Polamulu

[Brinker]

Just looking over the schedule.  Tough 4 game stretch starting with @ Miami,@ New Orleans, @ Cincinnati and then home against the Pats.  BTW those first 3 games are all at 8:30.

[kluisi61]

To one of your other points, ben can't get back soon enough. Playing a defense like the Ravens really exposes Batch's shortcomings not only in arm strength and accuracy but decision making. There were at least 2 times yesterday that Batch had about 10 seconds in the pocket and couldn't decide whether to run or throw the ball away and ended up taking a sack. He missed alot of throws that I have to think ben makes too.

I'm not so sure that this particular beef with CB will get any better with BR.

Really??  Ben has proven that holding onto the ball results in favorable plays as often (probably more often) as they result in sacks or turnovers...  There were at least 3 times yesterday when I just screamed, "throw the ball!"  I mean, the corner's are supposedly b-more's weakness, right?  You can't tell me they were that good in coverage that Charlie couldn't find anybody open...  He seemed to be seeing things at least a second or two later than Ben would see things.  Even that time when he hit Wallace streaking across the field for the first down, he had all day to get the ball to him, and waited till the last second...  Wallace got tackled right afterwards...if he throws it earlier, who knows what kind or room wallace has to run with...

I'm not suggesting that BR is not a better QB than CB. Just that he holds the ball possibly longer than any other QB in the league. Yeah, sometimes (lots of times?) he makes very good plays when he does that, but in all honesty, he should probably throw the ball away.

Are you saying that you have not screamed throw the ball a few times with Ben at the helm? Because I have and I bet a few others here have too. There is no QB controversy with me because I know who the better QB is and I know that the only chance of a deep run in the playoffs is with Ben running the show, but we have had 9 sacks in the previous 4 games (ATL, @TEN, @TB, BAL) with Dixon, BFL, and CB leading the team. I would not be surprised if that number is the same or worse in the next 4 (CLE, @MIA, @NO, @CIN) even though those defenses are not nearly as good.

[BleedGreen710]

I have yelled at Ben before, but it doesn't bother me like it does when Batch holds onto the ball...  The chances of something good happening with Batch holding it are slim to none...

And the assumption that we will have at least 9 sacks in the next four games is a perfectly good assumption.  But I'll bet that we have more than 3 or 4 touchdown passes in those games...and without a doubt, will probably triple or quadriple our overall offensive production. 

[kluisi61]

I have yelled at Ben before, but it doesn't bother me like it does when Batch holds onto the ball...  The chances of something good happening with Batch holding it are slim to none...

And the assumption that we will have at least 9 sacks in the next four games is a perfectly good assumption.  But I'll bet that we have more than 3 or 4 touchdown passes in those games...and without a doubt, will probably triple or quadriple our overall offensive production. 

OK...then we agree to agree. My only point was that the QB holding the ball too long isn't going to stop just because Ben is back.

[aj_law]

I just listened to Colin Cowherd say despite the loss Pittsburgh is the best team in the league.  Here comes the bandwagon.  I smell a 12-4 record, with losses to the Bengals, Bills and Jets.  And yes we will lose to a team like the Bills.

Yeah, dude musta suffered some head trauma in the last few weeks or something.  Like I mentioned in another thread last week, he said that Pittsburgh was the #1 team in the league AINEC.

Edit:  BTW, nice points, P.

[Joetorious]

Re: point 4, if you're saying that too many second-and-longs are wasted going for broke to a streaking Mike Wallace, I agree. Like Roethlisberger's ball holding (snicker), it pays off from time-to-time, but not enough to do it as often as was done in the Ravens game (which oft led to third-and-longs).

Couple of questions: 1) did it seem to anyone else as though Oher was moving early nearly every snap? He seemed to be even with Flacco during his dropbacks every play. My naked eyes sensed movement often. 2) On the hold on the final punt, did it occur in the end zone? If so, shouldn't it have been a safety anyway?

[Ytownsteelfan]

Finally decided to get online, I hate the 24 hrs after a Steelers loss and all the haters coming out and posting crap.  My biggest beef with the game was of course BA.  Going into the game, the biggest, glaring weakness of the Ravens D was their secondary.  No Ed Reed, and everyone else is subpar.  However, I seem to recall, that about halfway through the third period, we had 6 pass attempts total.  Was it BA arrogance scheming the offense to run into the teeth of the Ravens.  I would think a smart OC would exploit their opponents weakness, but we all know BA is not smart.

[Big Virgil]

BA called a good game the previous week, so he was sure to lay an egg vs the Ravens.  He is incapable of calling consistently good games.  It appears as if ba thinks to himself "I shoud call a pass play on 2nd and 8, but they probably thin I might try something different like a pass, so I'll call a run - ooooh wait, no a reverse".

I have to say, I'd take BA over Martz, but that's about it.

[jonzr]

I have to say, I'd take BA over Martz, but that's about it.

True dat.

[Brinker]

Re: point 4, if you're saying that too many second-and-longs are wasted going for broke to a streaking Mike Wallace, I agree. Like Roethlisberger's ball holding (snicker), it pays off from time-to-time, but not enough to do it as often as was done in the Ravens game (which oft led to third-and-longs).

Couple of questions: 1) did it seem to anyone else as though Oher was moving early nearly every snap? He seemed to be even with Flacco during his dropbacks every play. My naked eyes sensed movement often. 2) On the hold on the final punt, did it occur in the end zone? If so, shouldn't it have been a safety anyway?

I wondered about that.  Not sure if the holding occured in or out of the end zone

[BleedGreen710]

Joe - My dad and I kept talking about how it looked like Oher was moving early on just about every snap....  I definitely agree that it at least appeared to be a false start...

[Big Virgil]

I think the only time holding in the EZ results in a Safety is on a pass play.  Everything else is "half da distance".

[Preacherman0]

Joe - My dad and I kept talking about how it looked like Oher was moving early on just about every snap....  I definitely agree that it at least appeared to be a false start...

That was the weird thing about the INT by Ike.  Oher clearly moved early.  He thought he had, Harrison thought he had, everyone kind of half-assed it through the play.  Next thing you know, Ike is actually holding onto the football.

I kept waiting for someone to say "False Start," but it didn't happen. 

[Joetorious]

I think the only time holding in the EZ results in a Safety is on a pass play.  Everything else is "half da distance".

Not sure about that. I may have misinterpreted the rule, but on nfl.com/rulebook, when explaining "safeties," it says this:



I guess it depends on where the hold actually occured, but given the fact that the Stillers were on the 1 (or was it the half-yard line?), I don't see how the hold couldn't have taken place in the EZ.

[Preacherman0]

(c) Offensive team commits a foul and spot of enforcement is behind its own goal line.

Spot of enforcement for holding on a punt is not the spot of the foul.  It's from the original placement of the football.

[pensodyssey]

Also, the hold occured outside the endzone IIRC.

[Big Virgil]

Even holding in the endzone, on a pass play, according to the rule mentioned above, would not be a safety because it isn't a spot foul.

The only spot fould that comes to mind quickly, for my age anyway, is intentional grounding.

Not that it's correct, but I swear I have heard reference to holding on pass play = safety.

[kluisi61]

Even holding in the endzone, on a pass play, according to the rule mentioned above, would not be a safety because it isn't a spot foul.

The only spot fould that comes to mind quickly, for my age anyway, is intentional grounding.

Not that it's correct, but I swear I have heard reference to holding on pass play = safety.

I believe that it has even been called and awarded that way too. Maybe it is different, but I doubt it. I'm guessing that the holding just wasn't in the end zone on this particular play.

[Merman1983]

SOmeone put a call in to Justin Hartwig for clarification.

[give'emthaboot]

SOmeone put a call in to Justin Hartwig for clarification.

Yeah, I was going to say that we have a pretty memorable example of holding in the end zone that everyone here should remember.

[Big Virgil]

SOmeone put a call in to Justin Hartwig for clarification.

Yeah, I was going to say that we have a pretty memorable example of holding in the end zone that everyone here should remember.

Dohhhhhhhhh!!!!!!

[Joetorious]

SOmeone put a call in to Justin Hartwig for clarification.

Yeah, I was going to say that we have a pretty memorable example of holding in the end zone that everyone here should remember.

That happened litterally before my, Jasonic's and Otis' eyes. Almost made it a long(er) trip home from Tampa.

[P4P]

You have chilled with Otis.  Gotta be like chilling with Elvis.

My minds image of Otis is this:

Constant shit eating grin.
Drinking a Labatt  Blue.
Red and black flannel shirt.
Smelling of Hai Karate and Bratwurst.
And a tattoo of a scene from 2 Girls 1 Cup.

Close?   

[pensodyssey]

You have chilled with Otis.  Gotta be like chilling with Elvis.

My minds image of Otis is this:

Constant shit eating grin.
Drinking a Labatt  Blue.
Red and black flannel shirt.
Smelling of Hai Karate and Bratwurst.
And a tattoo of a scene from 2 Girls 1 Cup.

Close?   

I'm thinking more Canadian Club and satin smoking jacket.

[P4P]

When I think satin smoking jacket I think of my "Uncle Hugh"

[pensodyssey]

When I think satin smoking jacket I think of my "Uncle Hugh"

Exactamundo.

[P4P]

If I had a dollar for every time I had to hear someone ask me..."Hey!  Are you related to that Playboy guy?"  Id have enough $ to pay off my DUI.

[jonzr]

Flyers jersey and Kool unfiltered.

[pensodyssey]

Flyers jersey and Kool unfiltered.

Leaning on the hood of his pimped out 300.