Cleveland

[P4P]

Well boys...They beat the Saints and the Pats.  Few more weeks and we may actually find a troll around these parts.  Whatcha think?  Could they turn it around?

[Preacherman0]

They are definitely improving.  But they're getting to a point where they won't be able to sneak up on anyone.

[pensodyssey]

Dunno why this is surprising.  Belichick never could win in Cleveland.

[Merman1983]

Cleveland's defense is pretty good and it looks like Hillis is the real deal, but they built that 17-7 first half lead basically from the Pats shooting themselves in the foot. I also have real doubts about Mccoy's ability to get the ball downfield and his arm strength in general. They are improved but I don't think they are close to taking over the division or anything.

That said, it's irritating having to play a pretty good New orleans team coming off a loss to the browns and a really good Pat's team coming off a loss to the browns. 

[pensodyssey]

Cleveland's defense is pretty good and it looks like Hillis is the real deal, but they built that 17-7 first half lead basically from the Pats shooting themselves in the foot. I also have real doubts about Mccoy's ability to get the ball downfield and his arm strength in general. They are improved but I don't think they are close to taking over the division or anything.

That said, it's irritating having to play a pretty good New orleans team coming off a loss to the browns and a really good Pat's team coming off a loss to the browns. 

Yes, but this time we'll be ready for it; we won't get snuck up on by the team that just got snuck up on by the Browns.

[Merman1983]

Yes, but this time we'll be ready for it; we won't get snuck up on by the team that just got snuck up on by the Browns.

I agree with this to an extent but I watched the first half at my dad's house (didn't watch the second, so can't comment) and everytime Brady overthrew a receiver, or a receiver dropped a pass, or they fumbled inside the red zone, etc.,  we just looked at each other and said "that play will be perfectly executed next week."

[P4P]

Dunno why this is surprising.  Belichick never could win in Cleveland.