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« on: Jan 10, 2011 at 10:34 »

So, we all know 36 deserves to be in the hall and I firmly believe he will.  But will he make it on this ballot, his first?  Faulk is on there as well, will they take 'em both or make one or both wait?
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« Reply #1 on: Jan 10, 2011 at 10:46 »

Don't forget Curtis Martin is in the mix.

I think Faulk gets in and Bettis waits a year.  People simply forget how fucking dominant Bettis was early on, and think of him simply as a jovial big guy who racked up yardage through longevity.  Even people who should damned well know better.

BTW, the Rams moving Bettis and getting Faulk was a rare win-win.  Fit better here, obviously.  Bettis in his prime was a force of nature.
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« Reply #2 on: Jan 10, 2011 at 11:46 »

Oh yeah, Curtis Martin, too.  With those three I bet you're right, Bettis waits a year.  But here's to hoping he doesn't. 
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« Reply #3 on: Jan 10, 2011 at 14:58 »

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Mark Madden told me last week, Bettis was a joke who would be despised by Steelers fans if Roethlisberger hadn't made the tackle.



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« Reply #4 on: Jan 10, 2011 at 15:14 »

If they do take two, does Bettis' SB hardware put him ahead of Martin? FTR, I think they should take two and Bettis should be a first-ballot HOF'er.
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« Reply #5 on: Jan 10, 2011 at 15:43 »

Martin is 4th all-time in yardage, 14,101.
Bettis is 3rd all-time in yardage, 13,662.
Faulk is 10th all-time in yardage, 12,279.

Factor in the passing game, and Faulk has the 6th best NFL record with 19,172 APY.
Martin is 11th with 17,430.
Bettis is 26th with 15,111.

Faulk is tied for 7th with 100 rushing TDs.
Bettis is tied for 10th (with Franco!) with 91.
Martin is tied for 12th with 90.

All three should be HOFers, no doubt.

In 1999-2000, Faulk helped spearhead a potent Rams offense that went to 2 Super Bowls.  He had 1381 and 1359 yards rushing, and 1048 and 830 yards receiving.

Curtis Martin also went to a Super Bowl, but the '96 Pats lost to the Packers.  Still, Martin had 10 straight 1,000+ yard rushing seasons, and in 2004 he won the NFL rushing title at age 31 with 1697 yards rushing.

Bettis had 8 1,000+ seasons, including his first 6 with the Steelers.  His best season was 1997, when he had 1,775 APY, including 1,665 yards rushing.  His lifetime passer rating is 87.5, which is better than the career passer rating of all active QBs not named Rodgers, Rivers, Romo, Brady, P. Manning, Roethlisberger, Brees, Schaub, and Flacco. 
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« Reply #6 on: Jan 10, 2011 at 16:02 »

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Mark Madden told me last week, Bettis was a joke who would be despised by Steelers fans if Roethlisberger hadn't made the tackle.

No reason to doubt those words of wisdom, Mark Madden truly knows all, just ask him.
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« Reply #7 on: Jan 10, 2011 at 17:20 »

Mark Madden is POed that he never could get his own weight below Bettis.

Curtis Martin=underrated.  VERY underrated, IMHO. 
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« Reply #8 on: Jan 10, 2011 at 18:39 »

Mark Madden is POed that he never could get his own weight below Bettis.

Curtis Martin=underrated.  VERY underrated, IMHO. 

Ditto that on Martin.  Rarely mentioned in discussions of great recent RBs. 

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« Reply #9 on: Jan 11, 2011 at 10:09 »

Mark Madden is POed that he never could get his own weight below Bettis.

Curtis Martin=underrated.  VERY underrated, IMHO. 

Ditto that on Martin.  Rarely mentioned in discussions of great recent RBs. 

Although it is always fun taunting Jets fans with the fact that the three greatest players in their franchise history came from Pittsburgh.
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