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« Reply #10 on: Feb 09, 2011 at 15:30 »

How is Pouncey regarded?  Is #31 a realistic place to get him?  It would be cool to have double Pounceys on the OL.

My take is that he's seen as close to but not equal to Mo, based on the fact that he had more trouble snapping at Florida.  He's nearly a lock for R1, and likely to go before 1.31 IMO.  I think he could easily get drafted in the 20s (1.23 Philly, 1.26 Balty, 1.29 Chi most prominently), and he won't last past 10 picks into R2 if he were to get past us.  My guess is someone else gets him unless we move up, but it's possible he drops to us.  Most have him or Wisniewski as the top C/G, although Wis might be the better pure C.  Still, Mike would have that position flex to be, at worst, a backup backup C.

The Eagles need line help, and they like the big boys.  Hell, I'd trade Kemo and 1.31 for 1.23 and their R3 or R4 pick.  They get a starting OG (Kemo) for a mid, and we upgrade our front, win-win.
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« Reply #11 on: Feb 09, 2011 at 16:02 »

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The Eagles need line help, and they like the big boys.  Hell, I'd trade Kemo and 1.31 for 1.23 and their R3 or R4 pick.  They get a starting OG (Kemo) for a mid, and we upgrade our front, win-win.

This, I like!

Kemo is just too infuriating.  Looks like a world-beater for a few plays, maybe an entire game; then looks like a dog or just does something stupid.

Am I correct that trades cannot be made on draft day if there is no CBA?
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« Reply #12 on: Feb 09, 2011 at 17:43 »

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How is Pouncey regarded?  Is #31 a realistic place to get him?  It would be cool to have double Pounceys on the OL.

Evrything I've seen so far has him going around 20.  That may be a little high, but now he's got legacy status.  When your brother goes Pro Bowl at a tough position as a rook, teams will pay extra for that bloodline.  See Manning, Eli.  If he's Eli Smith no way he goes #1 overall.
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« Reply #13 on: Feb 09, 2011 at 18:03 »

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How is Pouncey regarded?  Is #31 a realistic place to get him?  It would be cool to have double Pounceys on the OL.

Evrything I've seen so far has him going around 20.  That may be a little high, but now he's got legacy status.  When your brother goes Pro Bowl at a tough position as a rook, teams will pay extra for that bloodline.  See Manning, Eli.  If he's Eli Smith no way he goes #1 overall.

Some folks thought 1.18 was high for Mo; I think that's changed.  Mike played DL a year, then OG, then OC, so his technique isn't there, but hell, these guys are young, athletic, malleable.  I think 1.23 is critical: if no one trades up, Eagles take him (unless they love an OT).  Should be some OTs floating down to that level, and 1.31, but Pouncey and Wisniewski IMO are much better relative to position than the OTs are at that spot.  In short, I could wait till R2 or R3 and get less dropoff at OT (weak class, but still value there) than I could with the OGs. 

The Pouncey Creature Double Feature would be a dominant IOL.  If we can't get Pouncey I'm hoping CB Jimmy Smith is there.  Maybe one of the OTs.
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« Reply #14 on: Feb 09, 2011 at 20:37 »

That's good to know.  I like the Kemo and a pick trade, the big guy is a mauler, but those personal fouls kill drives.
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« Reply #15 on: Feb 10, 2011 at 01:32 »

Legursky, I'm still not sold on this guy as being anything more than a back up.  Yes, we didn't hear Raji's name mentioned much, but that was partially because they were double teaming Raji...which left the Tackles on an island, which seemed to show on Ben's first INT, the one returned for a TD.
I could be wrong, but I still see him as just a nice valuable back up interior lineman.

I thought it was Kemo's guy that got through to cause the errant pass returned for a TD.
You may be right Kluisi. I'd check now but I don't know if I can force myself to see it right now.
Oh what the heck...hold on....

...You're right, that was Kemo who gave up that one. (damn that just hurt hurt to watch again)

I also just watched the Mendenhall fumble again. Legursky completely missed his guy. His assignment was to pull and seal the right side, along with Johnson, who lined up at FB, and they both completely missed their blocks. Legursky seemed to overrun his, so it wasn't like he was manhandled. But that play really hurt us. He's only 24 and maybe with more experience he will be starter-worthy...but I'm not sold on him long term.

I like Finnegan's idea of Kemo and a pick to move up as well.
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« Reply #16 on: Feb 10, 2011 at 07:45 »

You may be right Kluisi. I'd check now but I don't know if I can force myself to see it right now.
Oh what the heck...hold on....

I'll never watch this Super Bowl again.  Still haven't seen a replay of '95.  Soon as the 4th down pass fell incomplete, I deleted it from the DVR.
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« Reply #17 on: Feb 10, 2011 at 07:58 »

I'm right there with you.  Deleted immediately.
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« Reply #18 on: Feb 10, 2011 at 08:01 »

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Still haven't seen a replay of '95

Mrs. Preach gets furious at me every year because I watch the 30 min. NFL films thing about SB30 at least once every year.  I keep hoping it will somehow end differently, and I end up cursing Neil ODonnell and talking about gamblers/payoffs/point-shaving.

The whole thing blows.  Oughtta be 8 for 8 and perfect against the Cowgirls, cause we had those SOBs right where we wanted them.

And yes, I still believe ODonnell was bought off and I will never be convinced of anything else.

Anyway...get an oline that can keep Ben in one piece.
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« Reply #19 on: Feb 10, 2011 at 08:50 »

You may be right Kluisi. I'd check now but I don't know if I can force myself to see it right now.
Oh what the heck...hold on....

I'll never watch this Super Bowl again.  Still haven't seen a replay of '95.  Soon as the 4th down pass fell incomplete, I deleted it from the DVR.


Ha, I'm with you there. The second I got home it was deleted. Still got Indy 06, Denver 06, Balty 08, Sandiego 08, and this year's Balty and jets game if I need an offseason fix.
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