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« on: Feb 12, 2011 at 14:41 »

OK I think I kno what the overwhelming response to this idea will be, but hear me out. 

Hines is getting up there in age
We need a legit 2
Sweed is not the answer
All of our WR's (minus Sweed) are 6'0" or less


I do not think we can pick a FA or draft pick that would be better than Plex...


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Though he hasn't yet been released from prison, wide receiver Plaxico Burress is already leaving an impression on the NFL.
 
On Saturday, Burress' agent Drew Rosenhaus joined the chorus of those saying the imprisoned wide receiver looks to be in good shape and could help an NFL team.

"[Burress] is doing great! He is running & lifting weights 5 days a week," Rosenhaus tweeted after visiting Burress in jail Saturday. "He looks in terrific shape."

Burress, who will be released on June 6, has also caught the eye of former New York Giants and Pittsburgh Steelers teammates.

Giants defensive end Osi Umenyiora, who has also visited Burress, said last week he'd be happy to see the 6-foot-5 receiver back on the field.

"He looks great. He is lean; he is in good shape. He's focused and he seems happy. I just can't wait for him to come out and I think he is going to have a great impact a la Michael Vick," Umenyiora said.

Giants quarterback Eli Manning has even gone so far to say that reuniting with his once favored target "could be a good thing."

Burress, 33, has not played in the league since accidentally shooting himself in the leg with an unlicensed handgun while at a night club on November 28, 2008, but hopes to return to the NFL.

"We talked at length about his future in the NFL & he.....can't wait to get back on the football field in 2011," Rosenhaus tweeted. "He is mentally & physically strong right now and is looking forward to the future!"

The Giants aren't the only team with players rooting for a Burress comeback. Hines Ward, who was teammates with Burress in Pittsburgh from 2000 to 2005, said he'd welcome a Steelers reunion.

"I know he's getting out pretty soon," Ward said during Super Bowl XLV media day. "For all I know, we'll end up getting Plax on our team. He'll be welcomed with open arms. ... [It was] an unfortunate incident, and I prayed for him a lot. I had some good years with Plax."
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« Reply #1 on: Feb 12, 2011 at 15:23 »

I'd bring him into camp, if only for hearing "he's in the best shape..."
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« Reply #2 on: Feb 12, 2011 at 15:28 »

Hines is 34 and is "getting up there in age," but Plaxico is 33 (with a year and some change out of the game) and he's going to help us?

Glad he's focused and happy and has been running and lifting weights.  

I'd prefer to develop the WRs we have and if necessary, add another guy as a draft flyer.

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« Reply #3 on: Feb 12, 2011 at 22:02 »

WTF is his agent going to say?

"Plax has lost a coupla steps, and really isn't in that good of shape, but I think someone should sign him anyway"?
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« Reply #4 on: Feb 13, 2011 at 06:12 »

My initial answer is "No, he's too old, hasn't played in a long time, by the time he shakes off the rust he'd probly be a year older, etc"
BUT, maybe it isn't such a bad idea. What is he 6'6 or 6'7.  That'd be a nice target for Ben.

As long as it doesn't come at the expense of cutting Sanders or Brown, I want to see more from these 2.
A trio of Ward, Wallace & Burress could potentially be very effective.

But then who goes?
Are we ready to give up on Sweed?  I want to say no, not yet, but I think maybe it's time to.
Randle El maybe. But he signed a 3 yr deal I believe. So I don't see them cutting him until at least after the 2011 season.

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« Reply #5 on: Feb 13, 2011 at 09:44 »

No.
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« Reply #6 on: Feb 13, 2011 at 10:27 »

Just say, "NO!" to Plaximo.
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« Reply #7 on: Feb 13, 2011 at 11:44 »

Translation: One of the 400,000 questions to Hines Ward during Super Bowl week involved Plex. Espn Writer A took the quote and turned into a story about the Steeler's interest in Plex.




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« Reply #8 on: Feb 13, 2011 at 20:13 »

No, no, and no.

We've got 3 young guys to develop, Ward is still a solid #4.  Heat can provide the big target if needed. 

Deep target?  Sure, he's shorter, but who do you prefer on a deep route?  33 year old Plex or Wallace?

The Michael Vick-style rebirth doesn't happen often.
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« Reply #9 on: Feb 14, 2011 at 09:47 »

Also, FWIW, if they're gonna take a shot on a FA WR, there are a lot of better options out there this year.  There's no shortage of FA talent at this position.

Shit, at this point, I'd give TO consideration over Burress.
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« Reply #10 on: Feb 14, 2011 at 10:15 »

I bet Jerry Rice is still in pretty good shape.
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« Reply #11 on: Feb 14, 2011 at 10:47 »

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Shit, at this point, I'd give TO consideration over Burress.

Fuck that!

I'd sign Henry, before TO.
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« Reply #12 on: Feb 14, 2011 at 11:31 »

Also, FWIW, if they're gonna take a shot on a FA WR, there are a lot of better options out there this year.  There's no shortage of FA talent at this position.

Shit, at this point, I'd give TO consideration over Burress.

Each team TO goes to gets better ...

after he leaves.
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« Reply #13 on: Feb 14, 2011 at 12:20 »

Also, FWIW, if they're gonna take a shot on a FA WR, there are a lot of better options out there this year.  There's no shortage of FA talent at this position.

Shit, at this point, I'd give TO consideration over Burress.

Each team TO goes to gets better ...

after he leaves.

We could sign him, and cut him after camp...
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« Reply #14 on: Feb 14, 2011 at 12:44 »


Article below is on a WR signing for the Steelers.  Wes Lyons NEVER lived up to what many believed was his potential at WVU.  He has some distinct advantages (6'8 is a big one), but never evolved into the pass catcher many thought he would.  Big question mark is was it him, or was it the system ran by WVU at the time (he played dueing the days of Rodriguez as coach, Pat White at QB).

Another HUGE plus for him is that he is an OUTSTANDING blocker downfield.....in the Hines Ward mold.



By Scott Grayson for wvillustrated.com

February 11, 2011



MORGANTOWN, W. Va. – Former WVU Wide Receiver Wes Lyons has signed a two year contract with the Pittsburgh Steelers. This according to a published report in the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review.

Lyons graduated from West Virginia University last year and attended mini-camp with the New York Jets last spring, but did not play in the 2010 season.

Lyons is from the Pittsburgh area and will now get the chance to catch on with his hometown team.

He was always an easy target to spot on the field. At 6-foot-8, 245 pounds he almost always has a height advantage on the defensive back that is covering him.

Lyons caught 42 passes in his college career for 517 yards. His best year at WVU was his senior year when he hauled in 20 receptions for 263 yards
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« Reply #15 on: Feb 14, 2011 at 12:53 »

He was always an easy target to spot on the field. At 6-foot-8, 245 pounds he almost always has a height advantage on the defensive back that is covering him.

He's one of those guys who makes me think, why can't they stand him over by the sideline and throw the ball 9' off the ground?  He's gotta catch that every time!
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« Reply #16 on: Feb 14, 2011 at 13:53 »

Absolutely right he had better always catch it.  I do know that under RR's system, they did not throw alot though.  Just saying, with the right coaching, he could be a good fit for us.  Telling you, he really laid some hits as a blocker
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« Reply #17 on: Feb 14, 2011 at 14:08 »

Yeah, remember they worked him out back in December.  Same thread, aside from usual MGS fuckery, does succinctly describe that despite Ben's apparent desire for a tall WR, plenty of Smurfs have had success in the right system.

IMO, height per se is vastly overrated. 
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« Reply #18 on: Feb 14, 2011 at 14:13 »

Only if he has learned how NOT to throw the ball to the ground after a catch when he hasn't been downed yet!
Bonehead, maybe the Titans will want him.
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« Reply #19 on: Feb 14, 2011 at 18:28 »

He was always an easy target to spot on the field. At 6-foot-8, 245 pounds he almost always has a height advantage on the defensive back that is covering him.

He's one of those guys who makes me think, why can't they stand him over by the sideline and throw the ball 9' off the ground?  He's gotta catch that every time!

Yeah, do any of you guys remember Weegie Thompson? He was always good for on of those every game or so...
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« Reply #20 on: Feb 14, 2011 at 20:35 »

I'm not familiar with Lyons, but even though he's a WR, the first name that came to my mind is Eric Green.   
Green was a freak of nature when he first came in to the league out Liberty.  DBs couldn't bring him down and LBs couldn't cover him.

I'm assuming one of his knocks is probably route running and the "long strides" that sometimes hurt tall WRs ability to make crisp cuts.
Still, at 6'8", I can't wait to get more info on him.
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« Reply #21 on: Feb 15, 2011 at 07:02 »

Here is brief on Wes Lyons from March of 2010.  Granted it is from Bleacher Report........


6‘8"

That was most likely the first thing that stuck out to fans about Wes Lyons, his height.

The Pennsylvania native came to Morgantown as a freshman with a frame and build that was certainly intriguing to say the least.

After spurning big name programs such as Ohio State, Miami, and Oklahoma, Lyons came in with the attached expectations that he could become another big-play wide receiver in the mold of Chris Henry.

It was accepted that it would take time for the tall and talented youngster to grow into his body and mature but many figured once he did, he could be dominant. If he could add some muscle to his lanky frame, Wes Lyons looked like he could be the type of receiver that few college defensive backs could tango with.

Many expected that given his size, Lyons could be a tremendous asset as a red zone target early on in his career.

However, the snaps and opportunities were scarce throughout the beginning of his tenure and Wes could only manage a total of 11 catches in his first two seasons. Even with limited chances, Rich Rodriguez employed a steady run first spread attack that didn’t exactly allow for breakout games from his wide receivers.

When Rodriguez departed and Bill Stewart came in, promising a new passing element to the offense, there seemed to be a sense that Wes’s fortunes could change. The departure of top receiver Darius Reynaud only seemed to open things up even more.

It looked like his junior year would finally be the one where the “what’s the deal with Wes Lyons” questions would be answered.

New receivers did emerge in Jeff Mullen’s refined version of the spread, but those receivers were Alric Arnett and Jock Sanders. Lyons spent the season once again as an afterthought, finishing with a disappointing 11 total catches.

Lyons had failed to live up to expectations. He had done nothing in his first three years to show that he was anything but an unmitigated bust. The questions still persisted and the receiver had only his senior year left to prove his doubters and critics wrong.

After drawing rave reviews in spring practices, it looked like Wes was finally going to put it all together. It seemed he was waiting for his senior year to finally have the breakout type season many had been waiting for.

It was not to be though. The hopes would go unfulfilled.

During his final season, Lyons at times showed a few flashes of what could have been, but in general it was another season of very little impact. His most important contribution to the team would come primarily as a blocker in the slot receiver position.

The once great potential red zone threat would end his career without a touchdown in a Mountaineer uniform. He would end his career like many before him, as just another highly regarded player who let his potential fall by the wayside.

Perhaps the defining moment of his senior season came in a late October loss at South Florida. Lyons dropped a crucial fourth quarter pass that essentially all but ended West Virginia’s comeback effort. It was a fitting analogy for his career; he had let it all slip through his fingertips.

I speak of the departing Wes Lyons as we approach Mountaineer spring football as a warning to fans to limit their excitement when it comes to reports on players during this time. Treat the “having a great spring, ready to breakout” rumors with caution and tempered optimism.

Yes, spring is a great time for lesser known players to make a name for themselves, starters to solidify their worth, and for younger players to show that they belong, but there are those that can put too much credence into what they hear. Yes, players will emerge but the spring isn’t the be all end all for this team.

The reports of Lyons last spring would have led you to believe he was going to have an All Big East type campaign this past season. Sometimes these reports can raise expectations to unfair levels.

There is a wide difference between potential and results. Lots of players will show their potential this spring, but few have what it takes to get the results during the season.

Regardless, it should be fun watching who emerges in the coming month, but we need to make sure we keep it all in proper perspective.
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« Reply #22 on: Feb 15, 2011 at 20:08 »

Glad he's focused and happy and has been running and lifting weights.


From what I understand of prison, there isn't much else to do there.
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« Reply #23 on: Feb 15, 2011 at 23:26 »

Waits. Weights. And Buttsex.

Decent album title.
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« Reply #24 on: Feb 16, 2011 at 10:30 »

Waits. Weights. And Buttsex.

Decent album title.

First single?

"(Bitch you got a) Purty Mouth"
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« Reply #25 on: Feb 16, 2011 at 11:10 »

Waits. Weights. And Buttsex.

Decent album title.

First single?

"(Bitch you got a) Purty Mouth"



"Come spot me all you bitches"

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« Reply #26 on: Feb 16, 2011 at 11:29 »

Waits. Weights. And Buttsex.

Decent album title.

First single?

"(Bitch you got a) Purty Mouth"



"Come spot me all you bitches"



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« Reply #27 on: Feb 16, 2011 at 14:27 »

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