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« on: Aug 01, 2011 at 10:59 »

Because we'd rather just keep the hand we've been dealt, rather than looking for ANY fucking bargains out on the market.

I mean, wouldn't want to disturb Colbert's vacay, right?
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« Reply #1 on: Aug 01, 2011 at 11:19 »

Don't you want to have a chance to almost win the Superbowl again?  C'mon!
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« Reply #2 on: Aug 01, 2011 at 12:35 »

Because we'd rather just keep the hand we've been dealt, rather than looking for ANY fucking bargains out on the market.

Makes zero sense.
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« Reply #3 on: Aug 01, 2011 at 13:58 »

I mean, over the years, I've come to temper my expectations for the FO doing much of anything in terms of big-name players in FA.  And you know what?  Most years that's a good strategy for the Steelers, because the marquee players get overpaid.

Sure seems to me that this year, with the CBA stuff, has proved to be the exception, sort of a clearance sale or something.  I understand that we're probably up against the cap, and it takes a while to restructure the big deals (Ben) or even the medium deals (Casey, et al.).

But then we go out and just hand out loyalty contracts and it adds up to what other teams are paying for premium players.

LT Doug Free's deal is about what Ike got, and I'd make that switch in a minute, then look at bringing in Richard Marshall (1-year deal with Cards) or Nate Clements (Bengals, 2/$10.5) on the cheap to man one vet spot, or even make a trade for Asante.  I know Asante doesn't put his nose into tackling, but he's a helluva playmaker. 

I just don't get why they aren't doing anything about the OL or CB slots.

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« Reply #4 on: Aug 01, 2011 at 19:59 »

Same sh*t, shorter offseason to gripe about it.
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« Reply #5 on: Aug 02, 2011 at 08:31 »

I'd say Bettis is the last non-draft "big name" they brought in (and was that via trade? I don't recall...if so, probably even a bigger surprise that they made such a move). Before that and since, I have no idea.
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« Reply #6 on: Aug 02, 2011 at 09:04 »

Same sh*t, shorter offseason to gripe about it.

I disagree, Preach.  Same shit would be the FO not doing anything... in a typical offseason.  This offseason is hardly typical.  There were relative bargains to be had that could have gone a long way towards solidifying the OL and DBs.  That would have required making some ballsy moves, and Colbert proved he can't be that kind of GM.  He's good at what he does, but he can't step outside that box.

I don't think the Eagles are usually splashy in the offseason, but they saw opportunities and took them.
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« Reply #7 on: Aug 02, 2011 at 09:08 »

I'd say Bettis is the last non-draft "big name" they brought in (and was that via trade? I don't recall...if so, probably even a bigger surprise that they made such a move). Before that and since, I have no idea.

Bettis was acquired for a R2 and a R4, and then the Rams traded for Marshall Faulk with a R2 and a R5, so they basically broke even.  A real win-win trade for both teams.

We picked up some former R1 bust named James Farrior after he left the Jets as a FA.  Got some FA guard named Jeff Hartings after he left the Lions. 

Don't forget that we got some OLB guy who was cut from the Steelers and then the Ravens and came back as a scrub... what's his name?  James something?
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« Reply #8 on: Aug 02, 2011 at 09:11 »

Steelers sign TB's backup TE to be the new Spaeth.  I just read the article and I already forget everything else about the guy including his name.  Gary Gilmore?  Might as well take a shot at him.

Also signed Greg Warren back for 2 years as our long snapper.  We don't need to rehash the importance of a good snapper, do we?
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« Reply #9 on: Aug 02, 2011 at 09:30 »

Gary Gilmore?  Might as well take a shot at him.

Maybe the guy can contribute and won't just mail 'er in.
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« Reply #10 on: Aug 02, 2011 at 10:04 »

I keep reading early whispers from camp gushing about Baron Batch:  some nice running moves, and more importantly, dude is a stud blocker.  Held his own against Harrison, who patted him on the helmet.  Either James is going soft, or we just got some RB depth.

Early wish:  I hope we can have Batch save 2 roster spots (Dwyer, MeMo) and open some cap space for picking up someone after camp cuts to add OL depth.
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« Reply #11 on: Aug 02, 2011 at 11:02 »

I'd say Bettis is the last non-draft "big name" they brought in (and was that via trade? I don't recall...if so, probably even a bigger surprise that they made such a move). Before that and since, I have no idea.

Bettis was acquired for a R2 and a R4, and then the Rams traded for Marshall Faulk with a R2 and a R5, so they basically broke even.  A real win-win trade for both teams.

We picked up some former R1 bust named James Farrior after he left the Jets as a FA.  Got some FA guard named Jeff Hartings after he left the Lions. 

Don't forget that we got some OLB guy who was cut from the Steelers and then the Ravens and came back as a scrub... what's his name?  James something?



Three good pick-ups for sure...I guess my mind was zeroed in on skills positions. But still, we're talking about practice! four people.
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« Reply #12 on: Aug 02, 2011 at 11:29 »

The upside is that when your system is good at developing talent, you have less need for FAs and fewer open roster spots.

Still, anyone who's happy with this OL and DB group is on crack.
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« Reply #13 on: Aug 02, 2011 at 11:37 »

Still, anyone who's happy with this OL and DB group is on crack.

*checks office calendar*

2011.

*whew*

Had to check just to be sure.
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« Reply #14 on: Aug 02, 2011 at 12:45 »

Ship McFadden or Gay and a R6 for Asante.
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« Reply #15 on: Aug 02, 2011 at 15:15 »

Ship McFadden or Gay and a R6 for Asante.


Or ship McFadden and Gay and a R6 Asante, and it will be addition by subtraction plus addition.
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« Reply #16 on: Aug 02, 2011 at 15:34 »

Ship McFadden or Gay and a R6 for Asante.


Fuck.  I'd send a R3 or probably even a R2 for him.  For Pittsburgh, a R2 should be close to R3, anyway.

Besides, it's not like Colbert has a history of doing much with R2s...my boy, Woodman excepted.
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« Reply #17 on: Aug 02, 2011 at 15:37 »

Or ship McFadden and Gay and a R6 Asante, and it will be addition by subtraction plus addition.

TBH, I'd like to keep McFad for the nickel.  He's alright in that role.
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« Reply #18 on: Aug 02, 2011 at 17:11 »

Or ship McFadden and Gay and a R6 Asante, and it will be addition by subtraction plus addition.

TBH, I'd like to keep McFad for the nickel.  He's alright in that role.

Actually, he and 100% are both OK there, so long as neither is pressed into a starting role.

Hope our rookie CB learns shit fast, because the other youngsters haven't shown shit yet (Lewis, Butler).  So depressing. 
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« Reply #19 on: Aug 02, 2011 at 17:44 »

I've heard Lewis has looked good at camp.
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« Reply #20 on: Aug 02, 2011 at 19:44 »

I've heard Lewis has looked good at camp.

Wonderful.

Let's see how he does against real talent.
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