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« on: Aug 12, 2011 at 10:04 »

Either jonzr hasn't slapped up the season's game threads or Penso deleted them.

I wouldn't say there are a lot of positional battles, but there are plenty of players I'll be watching.  Starters will get 10 snaps max, per Tomlin.

80 WR Limas Sweed.  Chances are slim he makes the cut, but it will be interesting to see how much work he gets with Sanders out and Cotchery not yet in rotation.  If he excels, could be trade material for teams hungry for a WR (Cards, Vikes, Bears, etc.).

23 CB Keenan Lewis and 28 CB Crezdon Butler.  I'm not expecting much from the rookies (40 Curtis Brown and 39 Cortez Allen), since it takes rookies a while with the **** D, the shortened preseason, and since Brown's been nursing a leg injury.  So the time to step up is now for Lewis, who's got the skills to cover guys like Wallace but has been inconsistent at best.  Butler has an intriguing skill set as well, and could leapfrog Lewis.  I'd like to see one of them do enough to push for a starting job, but I'm not holding my breath.

61 G/T Chris Scott, 62 G Keith Williams, and 65 T Marcus Gilbert.  Scott has been getting positive reviews at RG in place of Ramon Foster, and Keith Williams has been praised for his physical play.  Scott, Foster, and Williams (along with Colon) are the Roly Polys, the G/RT guys we stock up on like survivalists stock up on canned goods.  Realistically, this is a battle for who replaces Essex at RG.  Gilbert is a different story.  Max Starks Lite, or the "big bear" as Tomlin called him, provides much needed T depth, and could push Jon Scott at LT if he gets some reps there.  Hard to overstate how much we need someone to dominate at OT.
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« Reply #1 on: Aug 12, 2011 at 10:19 »

10 QB Dennis Dixon.  Steelers didn't extend him, but he'll likely get a lot of work in the preseason.  Keep or trade?  Extend or allow him to walk?  What is the FO thinking with him?

19 WR Tyler Grisham has gotten a lot of camp buzz, but he's got a tough road to even catch on as WR6.  Fighting Arnaz Battle and Limas Sweed, so teams skills could be every bit as important as receiving skills for him.  Also possible trade material?

55 ILB Sly Sylvester, 54 ILB Chris Carter, 44 ILB Mario Harvey, 48 ILB MOrtty Ivy and 97 OLB Jason Worilds.  A really interesting trio of young ILBs, with speed to burn.  Sylvester is reportedly very good this year, Carter flashes talent, Ivy has laid some solid hits, and Harvey has been dinged.  Can the young guys show enough to win one of the backup spots, or even make Foote expendable?  Worilds also needs to show he's made progress.  Doesn't have to be Silverback as long as he's not Bruce Davis. 

9 P Dan Sepulveda and 13 P Jeremy Kapinos.  Steelers have been patient with Sepulveda, but is he fully healed yet?  Will he ever stay healthy?  Will he be replaced by last year's fill-in?  Looks like a coin flip at this point.

95 DE Cameron Heyward.  Not expecting a lot, just excited to see him on the field.

27 RB Jon Dwyer and 38 RB John Clay.  Can either of the big boys show enough to stick as RB4?  Dwyer made the cut last year on scant evidence, but arrived at camp heavy.  Clay is a big back coming off ankle injuries.  The bar is set low, and I expect neither makes the 53-man.
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« Reply #2 on: Aug 12, 2011 at 10:28 »

For us non-locals, is this being broadcasted tonight?

Wasn't even aware of the preseason action last night.  Gotta think it's gonna look pretty messy the first few times out.

Edit:  OMFG, Pats dropped 47 on Jags?  The more things change, the more they stay the same for Bellychuckle.  Mallett looked good from the highlights I saw, but then again, it was against 3rd and 4th string defenders.
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« Reply #3 on: Aug 12, 2011 at 11:35 »

Rerun on the 212 Saturday 4-7.
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« Reply #4 on: Aug 12, 2011 at 13:30 »

Directv channel 642 @ 7:30 EST
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« Reply #5 on: Aug 12, 2011 at 16:19 »

Anyone got a good webcast for the game, I unfortunately have Dish and the game is not on.
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« Reply #6 on: Aug 12, 2011 at 17:45 »

Nowhere else to put this:  212 is showing the end of the Patsies-Jags preseason game from last night, and Mrs. F gets a load of the score.  Her comment?  Oh, they're a bunch of no-class jackasses...
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« Reply #7 on: Aug 12, 2011 at 18:51 »

http://www.firstrowsports.eu/webmaster/Live-Football-Stream/78219/1/watch-pittsburgh-steelers-vs-washington-redskins.html
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« Reply #8 on: Aug 12, 2011 at 18:53 »

You're not missing much.

Ben had Wallace wide open on a pass from midfield, Wallace was at the 10, and Ben overthrew him.

Punt to the 2.  Washington moved down the field, and now have second and goal.  It's been a nice combination of them holding the hell out of us on just about every run, and then we miss tackles on the second level.

Incomplete on the screen, 3rd and goal from the 12.
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« Reply #9 on: Aug 12, 2011 at 18:55 »

Shayne Graham with the worst kick I've seen by a guy beyond 9th grade football.

And if Bob Pompeani and Edmund Nelson don't figure out that it's Ryan MUNDY, not Ryan MONDAY, it's going to be a long night.
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« Reply #10 on: Aug 12, 2011 at 19:30 »

They finally scored with their first teamers... on a few of our starters and a lot of our rooks
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« Reply #11 on: Aug 13, 2011 at 17:40 »

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Nowhere else to put this:  212 is showing the end of the Patsies-Jags preseason game from last night, and Mrs. F gets a load of the score.  Her comment?  Oh, they're a bunch of no-class jackasses...

Funny thing about that...Bill Simmons was actually excited about it on PTI Friday...THEY SCORED 40 POINTS WITHOUT BRADY!!11...He honestly thought it mattered.

Then got really pissed that LeBatard dared take shots at Saint Belichek for no playoff wins in four years.  And that he takes any player with a pulse and it's automatically a great move just because it's the Pats.
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« Reply #12 on: Aug 14, 2011 at 08:03 »

As expected, pretty ugly...on both sides of the ball.

Hopefully, the coaches have an accelerated gameplan for getting these guys up to speed.
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« Reply #13 on: Aug 14, 2011 at 12:42 »

I'm back in the 'burgh and watched from start to finish.  I don't recall Sweed seeing the field at all (though there was a nice shot of him on the nether reaches of the bench); and I can't recall Gilbert being involved in any significant way either, though he might have been on the field for the shitfest that was Dennis Dixon's 4th quarter.  Dwyer indeed looks fat, and ineffective, but he's trim compared to Clay.  Honestly, I think Hampton is fitter than Clay.  Heyward made one nice play fighting off his man and collaring the ball carrier, but it was a typical **** Lebeau no blitz, no stunt preseason gameplan, so it's hard to gauge his readiness or skills in more complicated packages. 

As for Grisham, meh. He got better simply by Battle dropping about 9 passes.     
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« Reply #14 on: Aug 14, 2011 at 13:09 »

...but it was a typical **** Lebeau no blitz, no stunt preseason gameplan, so it's hard to gauge his readiness or skills in more complicated packages.

That might've been the case for the second and third stringers, but it didn't look as vanilla as in years past for the starters.  To me, I saw a bunch of what looked like regular season type defensive looks for them.  There were at least two stunt blitz calls and one overload blitz call.  All without much success.  That's kinda what bothered me about Hightower carving them up.  It didn't feel like they were just going through the motions.  It looked like they were making the effort...and failing.
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« Reply #15 on: Aug 15, 2011 at 09:43 »

Either jonzr hasn't slapped up the season's game threads or Penso deleted them.


Alrighty, got 'em up there.  Penso is innocent!  Ha.
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« Reply #16 on: Aug 15, 2011 at 11:02 »

Either jonzr hasn't slapped up the season's game threads or Penso deleted them.


Alrighty, got 'em up there.  Penso is innocent!  Ha.

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« Reply #17 on: Aug 15, 2011 at 12:09 »

9 P Dan Sepulveda and 13 P Jeremy Kapinos.  Steelers have been patient with Sepulveda, but is he fully healed yet?  Will he ever stay healthy?  Will he be replaced by last year's fill-in?  Looks like a coin flip at this point.

I wasn't able to watch the whole game, but from what I saw, he looked like the best offensive player (or maybe that would be defensive player) on the field. I just wanted them to stop using him in case he got hurt again. Still think he would be better as a Kickoff person than whatever kicker is currently on the roster. Our coverage still looks like shit and at least Robo would have a chance to make the tackle.
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« Reply #18 on: Aug 15, 2011 at 12:23 »

Basedon the preseason games I have seen, KOs may not be an issue for any kicker (even J. Reed).

Sep did look really good. They've done ok with in-season replacements twice before. 

A. Brown looked great. Heyward looked good against the backest of the backups.

Keenan Lewis...bleh. Ashame too because he has size that the Steelers don’t have much of at CB.

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« Reply #19 on: Aug 15, 2011 at 12:42 »

Either jonzr hasn't slapped up the season's game threads or Penso deleted them.


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« Reply #20 on: Aug 15, 2011 at 12:53 »

...but it was a typical **** Lebeau no blitz, no stunt preseason gameplan, so it's hard to gauge his readiness or skills in more complicated packages.

That might've been the case for the second and third stringers, but it didn't look as vanilla as in years past for the starters.  To me, I saw a bunch of what looked like regular season type defensive looks for them.  There were at least two stunt blitz calls and one overload blitz call.  All without much success.  That's kinda what bothered me about Hightower carving them up.  It didn't feel like they were just going through the motions.  It looked like they were making the effort...and failing.

No Troy, no Harrison.  Very little by way of pre snap motion or swapped assignments (de's in coverage, etc.).
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« Reply #21 on: Aug 15, 2011 at 14:46 »

...but it was a typical **** Lebeau no blitz, no stunt preseason gameplan, so it's hard to gauge his readiness or skills in more complicated packages.

That might've been the case for the second and third stringers, but it didn't look as vanilla as in years past for the starters.  To me, I saw a bunch of what looked like regular season type defensive looks for them.  There were at least two stunt blitz calls and one overload blitz call.  All without much success.  That's kinda what bothered me about Hightower carving them up.  It didn't feel like they were just going through the motions.  It looked like they were making the effort...and failing.

No Troy, no Harrison.  Very little by way of pre snap motion or swapped assignments (de's in coverage, etc.).

True, true.  I had overlooked the Polamalu and Harrison omissions...not sure how I fucking managed that.
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« Reply #22 on: Aug 15, 2011 at 20:45 »

Didn't see it, but heard O line did not look good.  Can't say that's a shock, but just wondering what others thought.
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« Reply #23 on: Aug 16, 2011 at 06:42 »

Didn't see it, but heard O line did not look good.  Can't say that's a shock, but just wondering what others thought.

The usual mixed bag of shit and shinola.
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