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« on: Jan 20, 2012 at 11:26 »

Now that the heavy lifting is out of the way, WUG?

Somebody from the inside?  Fichtner? 

A familiar face?  Clements?

Somebody completely new and out of left field?  I got nuttin'.  Maybe somebody that Tomlin had worked with in a former life?

One other major question looms though, does Bill Stewart approve of this message?
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« Reply #1 on: Jan 20, 2012 at 11:33 »

Clements seems logical to me.
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« Reply #2 on: Jan 20, 2012 at 11:36 »

One other point, lotta teams are looking (or will be) for an OC.  By my count, there's 8 or 9 (?).

Makes me think that Pittsburgh will likely promote from within or go with an off-the-wall fresh face.  Money's on the former.
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« Reply #3 on: Jan 20, 2012 at 11:51 »

I know he's currently an OC in Carolina, but what about Rob Chudzinski?

Or, Oakland's OC, Al Saunders?

Or, San Diego's OC, Shelmon?

What about that CFL coach in Montreal the Colts are rumored to be considering?  Trestman?

OMFG, it's like Christmas morning; don't give a shit what I get so long as it's something new.
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« Reply #4 on: Jan 20, 2012 at 11:54 »

This is a tremendous opportunity for the team to improve.
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« Reply #5 on: Jan 20, 2012 at 12:31 »

Chudz did a great job with Cam Newton this year, but he'd have to get a significant offer and promotion to move, IIRC. 

I like the idea of Clements, and don't know much about Fitchner.  But I'd like to see Batch move into a role as QB coach.

Biggest concern is that promoting from within = more of the same.

I like Caldwell, but he let Manning run the show in Indy.  I sometimes think Ben runs the show a little too much, and sometimes needs to be put in his place.  Not sure Caldwell is the guy for that.
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« Reply #6 on: Jan 20, 2012 at 13:07 »

I sometimes think Ben runs the show a little too much, and sometimes needs to be put in his place.  Not sure Caldwell is the guy for that.

That's why I thought Todd Haley would be a good pick.  He seems to have a clue how to attack a defense.  Plus, he doesn't appear the type to kowtow to a player.
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« Reply #7 on: Jan 20, 2012 at 14:58 »

Chudz did a great job with Cam Newton this year, but he'd have to get a significant offer and promotion to move, IIRC.

Don't think he'd have to get a promotion.  I believe that was the way it was under the old rules.  Now, I think he has the right to interview for the same position if asked, but his current team has the right to refuse the request.

I think.
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« Reply #8 on: Jan 20, 2012 at 19:23 »

This may be WAY outside the box, but with the way this team is built right now, might it be a good idea to look to the New England coaching tree and get someone there to be the OC? That person could implement their quick passing game that we have been wanting to protect Ben behind a line that is not very good vs. the pass rush. Combine that with a little more rushing and dump offs to the RBs and TEs and I think that we'd have an offense that is very hard to predict and defend. That system would allow much more emphasis to be placed on getting the Defensive side of the ball younger since I believe the OLine would be perfectly adequate for that system (even with second tier tackles and guards).


*shudder* I feel dirty just thinking about it though.
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« Reply #9 on: Jan 21, 2012 at 08:27 »

Love to see us get Boise State's Chris Peterson, but have a feeling it will be Fichtner.

WE'll see.  Still in shock.
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« Reply #10 on: Jan 21, 2012 at 11:14 »

Love to see us get Boise State's Chris Peterson, but have a feeling it will be Fichtner.

WE'll see.  Still in shock.

Chris Peterson just signed a new deal and with Boise State moving to the Big East, don't you think he will be looking for a head coaching gig somewhere big time (NCAA) sometime soon...rather than an O coordinator position at the next level?

Otherwise, I agree.  Peterson would be a great addition to this team especially if he can incorporate some of the elements of his spread offense into our pro style sets.
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« Reply #11 on: Jan 21, 2012 at 21:30 »

One of the articles said it was unlikely Fitchner would be promoted.  It also said the two times they went outside the organization for OC was Gilbride and someone else
(i'm well into the margarita bin this evening so it escapes me) and they didn't make the playoffs with either one of them.

What about Spagnuolo, er wwhatever the fuck his name is.  Wasn't he the premier oc before he led the Rams into the ditch?
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« Reply #12 on: Jan 22, 2012 at 16:38 »

Spags was a D Coordinator, just signed with Saints. 
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« Reply #13 on: Jan 22, 2012 at 20:51 »

Don't know why I was thinking he was OC
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« Reply #14 on: Jan 23, 2012 at 08:31 »

FWIW, Wexell thinks it might be Caldwell, since he and Tomlin coached together and the timing of BA's retirement came just after Irsay canned Caldwell.  Dunno. dontknow
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« Reply #15 on: Jan 23, 2012 at 22:07 »

I've been reading the articles about Art II wanting us to run the ball again.

I don't care if we run it or throw it, as long as we aren't telegraphing which one it is directly to the defense.
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« Reply #16 on: Jan 24, 2012 at 03:07 »

FWIW, Wexell thinks it might be Caldwell, since he and Tomlin coached together and the timing of BA's retirement came just after Irsay canned Caldwell.  Dunno. dontknow

I hope not. Count me in the camp that thinks the real OC of the Colts has been Manning for the past decade.  Unless they bring Manning in as QB coach as well, of course.
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« Reply #17 on: Jan 24, 2012 at 07:38 »

What about GB QB coach Tom Clements?  Didn't he have a stint for the Steelers?
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« Reply #18 on: Jan 24, 2012 at 10:20 »

GB's OC is now HC in Mia, so scuttle is Clements may move into GB's OC spot.

OK?
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« Reply #19 on: Jan 24, 2012 at 11:28 »

That is not OK.  Get him back in here.  Where would you rather live, in Green Bay or not Green Bay?  See.
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« Reply #20 on: Jan 24, 2012 at 11:41 »

What about GB QB coach Tom Clements?  Didn't he have a stint for the Steelers?

GB's OC is now HC in Mia, so scuttle is Clements may move into GB's OC spot.

OK?

Yeah, Clements is one of the guys I suggested and probably my favorite outside prospect at the moment.  I would think if he's gonna move into an OC position and not HC position, it would be for GB.  If he goes outside the organization for an OC job, I would hope he bases his choice on the team's prospects for success.

What has me a little concerned is that there hasn't been a lot of specific candidate talk.  Lotta teams out there jousting with candidates.  Any team that takes a passive approach ends up with crumbs.

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« Reply #21 on: Jan 24, 2012 at 12:08 »

What has me a little concerned is that there hasn't been a lot of specific candidate talk.  Lotta teams out there jousting with candidates.  Any team that takes a passive approach ends up with crumbs.

Just got rid of a crumby one.  Get on the ball, FO people!  Tomlin!  Whoever will make this hire!
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« Reply #22 on: Jan 25, 2012 at 08:56 »

Mark Mangino?
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« Reply #23 on: Jan 25, 2012 at 09:16 »

Mangino Bear?  He could keel over at any moment.  But he was a great offensive mind IMO.
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« Reply #24 on: Feb 02, 2012 at 09:58 »

This is an interesting view from http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2012/2/2/2765942/afc-north-offensive-defensive-coordinator-steelers-ravens-browns#storyjump:

Joe Reedy of the Cincinnati Enquirer wrote Thursday morning Bengals coach Marvin Lewis is considering former Steelers CB Rod Woodson for the secondary coaching position left behind by Coyle.

Perhaps that's in response to how well Steelers secondary coach Carnell Lake did in 2011. Woodson and Lake played together in Pittsburgh in the 1990s, when both were All-Pro players.

Part of Pittsburgh's reason to wait could be explained by the franchise having its eye on a coach from either of the Super Bowl participants (Giants WRs coach Mike Sullivan, perhaps?). It could also be they're waiting to see whether running backs coach Kirby Wilson, who was tragically injured in a house fire in January, is able to coach in 2012. We put out a thought on how it could be because they're waiting on Packers QBs coach Tom Clements to decide whether he'll stay in Green Bay.
 
Due diligence may suggest all of these factors come into play.


I am hoping for Clements.  This would explain why we are bring in people that everyone knows we have no serious interest in.
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« Reply #25 on: Feb 06, 2012 at 16:11 »

Reports out of K.C. on 610 am are that it's Haley. I can live with that; I hope.
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« Reply #26 on: Feb 06, 2012 at 16:16 »

Yep it official. Mom Brinker just called and heard it in Pittsburgh on 93.7 the fan, it's Haley.
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« Reply #27 on: Feb 06, 2012 at 16:23 »

Radio guys here are slaying the Chiefs for the alleged wire-tapping and overall treatment of Haley while he was here. Justifying that if the Steelers would hire Haley, there must be some truth to his allegations and that the Chiefs FO is full of Tyrants and Bullies. Chiefs fans are up in arms about the whole thing. It's hilarious.
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