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« on: Apr 11, 2012 at 20:11 »

Steelers WR Mike Wallace not expected to sign tender
 
By Brian Murphy, Wednesday, April 11, 2012 5:58:04 PM CDT

A while back, the Pittsburgh Steelers presented wide receiver Mike Wallace with a one-year contract tender. But he still has no plans to sign it. So said ESPN's Adam Schefter on Wednesday. Schefter also said that if Wallace doesn't get a new deal before OTAs commence, he'll sit them out. The tender would pay Wallace $2.742 million this season. He is coming off a year in which he caught 72 passes for 1,193 yards and eight touchdowns.

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« Reply #1 on: Apr 11, 2012 at 21:32 »

You can't believe half of what Schefter says and the other half is pure speculation.
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« Reply #2 on: Apr 12, 2012 at 06:44 »

Schefty is schifty.
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« Reply #3 on: Apr 12, 2012 at 06:54 »

BTW, signing a tender would mean Wally could conceivably paint himself into a corner, as in a 1-year deal for less average than he could make on a longer-term deal... if a longer-term deal is worked out, great, if not and he becomes UFA then he gets a better deal too.  So where's the wienie?  Where's the incentive to sign?

Both sides are still working behind the scenes.  It'll get done.

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« Reply #4 on: Apr 12, 2012 at 07:42 »

The only incentive to sign I can think of would be that he's currently unemployed, he has no contract and no income but is still controlled by the Steelers.   If he has half a brain he'll eventually sign the tender, play out the year and then he's a UFA.  Or as you say, continue to negotiate.  But for now he's an RFA sans a contract.  
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« Reply #5 on: Apr 12, 2012 at 07:47 »

Plus, given the fact that he received no offers in the open market doesn't put him in a position of strength.  He won't get Megatron Money.  Best to accept that and get over it.  Maybe he would as a UFA though.  If that's what he believes then it would behoove him to sign the tender and go forward with his last year as a Steeler.  But they haven't done that so I tend to agree that they continue to negotiate.  Besides, the deadline for teams to sign UFAs is 4/20 so that's when we'll know something beyond Scheftulation (wild indeterminate speculation).
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« Reply #6 on: Apr 12, 2012 at 09:27 »

I agree, the fact that no one has offered him a contract actually gives him less pull.  Hopefully there is some work being done behind the scenes and he's not just whining like a diva or whining because he thought he could get diva type cash and was denied leaguewide. 

I think he's a great receiver obviously and fits great but no one wants another Holmes like entitlement attitude in the locker room.














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« Reply #7 on: Apr 12, 2012 at 11:00 »

Pittsburgh would be extremely wise to play hard ball with him.  I'm sure they can dig up a pair of Staley greys in his size.

Let him sit.  He makes nothing.  He doesn't practice.  He doesn't play.  He gets a year older.

And, next season he'll be a RFA again.  He'll also get a front row seat to the Antonio Brown long term deal negotiations.  Maybe he'll even get a front row seat at the press conference when they announce it.

He just doesn't deserve the kind of contract he's looking for.
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« Reply #8 on: Apr 12, 2012 at 12:32 »

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« Reply #9 on: Apr 12, 2012 at 15:44 »

PFT article:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/12/report-handful-of-teams-interested-in-mike-wallace-trade/

When Mike Wallace became a restricted free agent, his camp tried to spread the message that teams would be lining up to sign him because it would only take a first-round pick in compensation under the new CBA.

That didn’t work, but they aren’t through trying to get Wallace more money than he’s set to be paid under the tender placed on him by the Steelers earlier in the offseason. Mark Kaboly of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review reports that a handful of teams are interested in making a trade for the disgruntled wideout and, as Kaboly points out, this is the next stage in Wallace’s strategy to get a big new contract.

Via a trade, teams could land Wallace without giving up a first-round pick while Wallace would still be able to get the long-term deal that he hasn’t been able to get from the Steelers. By making it known that he won’t sign his tender, Wallace is signaling that he’ll be a thorn in the side of the Steelers and that it might just be better for them to get what they can for him now than deal with the headaches before he leaves as an unrestricted free agent after the 2012 season. That outcome seems likely given the tenor of negotiations thus far and the hints sent by Wallace’s camp about how much he’d like to be paid.

The Steelers made a somewhat similar deal with Santonio Holmes before the 2010 Draft. Holmes had off-field issues, but, like Wallace, Holmes was entering the final year before unrestricted free agency when the Steelers dealt him for a fifth-round pick. Whether or not they would be willing to part with Wallace is unclear, although it is preferable to get something for him instead of watching him leave for nothing as a free agent a year from now.
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« Reply #10 on: Apr 12, 2012 at 17:35 »

I know it's virtually impossible for the FO to do this, but the idea of signing Wallace for a draft-day trade entered my mind when I saw some of the unofficial times for Ga. Tech. WR Stephen Hill were... 4.28, same as Wallace.  He's a bit raw as a WR (but so was Wallace), but has great size, and follows Calvin Johnson and Demaryius Thomas from that program...

You don't want to trade too low, because Hill would likely be off sometime in the 1.20s, so how about the Bears at 1.19?  If they balk at sending a R1, as they would with a tender deal, then even it up by sending them a R3.  We wind up with Hill, 2 x R1s, Hill's cheaper rookie salary, a big, speedy target for Ben, no R3 picks. 
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« Reply #11 on: Apr 12, 2012 at 18:19 »

I don't see the sense. Chances of him being as good as Wallace seem unlikely, and you have to burn a number one to get him? Assuming we can even get a number one, which I still think is a long shot...

I know that 1st round rookie contracts will now cost less against the cap compared to the past, but still doesn't seem a fair trade for us.
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« Reply #12 on: Apr 12, 2012 at 19:26 »

In my scenario, we're getting a R1 pick (Hill) for a R3 price tag, and saving the cap space.  Hill has the speed and better size.  He's untested, so that's the downside.  Upside is, he could be a better overall receiver.  Check out his combine and pro day raves.  Not a bad final collegiate season.  Size and speed. 
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« Reply #13 on: Apr 13, 2012 at 08:15 »

I'd really like to see Wallace play for a season with an O coordinator that ideally knows WTF is going on. 

He should bite the bullet, ramp up his numbers then whore himself out to the Redskins or Raiders.
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« Reply #14 on: Apr 14, 2012 at 16:09 »

Anyone sweating/reporting that Wallace is threatening to not sign the tender as a realistic conclusion don't understand how contracts work. He HAS to sign the tender. Or retire. How likely is that?
I understand these folks need to have a fresh page.. clicks...revenue.  etc. But cmon, Wallace will be a Steeler in 2012 unless the Steelers decide so.
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« Reply #15 on: Apr 16, 2012 at 23:49 »

What the hell does he need OTA's for?  It's not like you can forget how to run in a straight line.
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« Reply #16 on: Apr 17, 2012 at 11:19 »

What the hell does he need OTA's for?  It's not like you can forget how to run in a straight line.

Especially the 2012 version of them.

You see some of those requirements for the first two or three weeks?

*No footballs shall be permitted to be used (only "dead ball" activities);
*Except that quarterbacks may elect to throw to receivers provided they are not covered by any other player;
*No live contact or team offense vs. team defense drills are permitted;
*No offense vs. defense drills are permitted (e.g .., no one-on-one offensive linemen vs. defensive linemen pass rush or pass protection drills, no wide receivers vs. defensive backs bump-­and-run drills, and no one-on-one special teams drills involving both offense and defense are permitted.)
*Players cannot wear helmets.

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