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« on: Sep 11, 2012 at 09:39 »

Are they the Super Bowl Champs or Chumps?  Looking for a repeat or getting their arses handed to them week by week?  How could anybody know that?
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« Reply #1 on: Nov 02, 2012 at 22:33 »

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« Reply #2 on: Nov 04, 2012 at 15:32 »

Did Coughlin pick up any ex-Steelers for the week? He used to love to do that for intel....
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« Reply #3 on: Nov 04, 2012 at 15:40 »

Any one else think it was crazy to go empty backfield with a rookie right tackle against the Giants defensive line?
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« Reply #4 on: Nov 04, 2012 at 15:53 »

Wow. Ike intercepts one? Maybe there is something to that Mayan calendar after all.
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« Reply #5 on: Nov 04, 2012 at 16:16 »

That so-called pf in the endzone?  On the replay that looked like a clear shoulder to shoulder hit, not a blow to the head.  How is that even a penalty, much less a pf?  HOW?  So it goes from a stop to 1st and goal on the goal.  Nice job, refs.  Way to take a prominent position in the game.
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« Reply #6 on: Nov 04, 2012 at 16:18 »

That's not a TD.  Hmm, maybe he hadn't touched the ground.  Well, since it was called a TD on the field, no way they overturn it.
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« Reply #7 on: Nov 04, 2012 at 16:19 »

Wow, props to Simms for saying the thought the pf was a bad call.  First time for everything.
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« Reply #8 on: Nov 04, 2012 at 16:21 »

And the pass interference call prior. 

Seems the league seems hell bent on giving NJ and the NYC area a "feel-good" event.

No way they let us win this game.
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« Reply #9 on: Nov 04, 2012 at 16:24 »

Wow, that was a great return by Rainey.  Was very surprised to see no flags!
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« Reply #10 on: Nov 04, 2012 at 16:29 »

Ok, it's official. How could the refs NOT see that was an incomplete pass, and then miss the blatant clip on Miller?!?

Again, they are going to steal this game from us.
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« Reply #11 on: Nov 04, 2012 at 16:31 »

Wow, that's utter bullshit.  It was an incomplete pass, not a turnover.  And a clip that wasn't called.  So, they call a penalty that wasn't which gives the Giants a TD (1st and goal on the goal) and then call a turnover that gives the Giants a TD.

OK, the refs have spotted the Giants 14 pts.  Well, 11 if you assume they make a FG on the non-penalty.

Great.
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« Reply #12 on: Nov 04, 2012 at 16:32 »

Ok, it's official. How could the refs NOT see that was an incomplete pass, and then miss the blatant clip on Miller?!?

Again, they are going to steal this game from us.

It's pretty damn ugly.  The Steelers are outplaying them.  Just gotta keep it clean and give the refs nothing to work with I guess.
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« Reply #13 on: Nov 04, 2012 at 16:59 »

And the pass interference call prior. 

Seems the league seems hell bent on giving NJ and the NYC area a "feel-good" event.

No way they let us win this game.

I wouldn't expect them to let the Steelers win the game, but it appears there is no way in hell they are going to let the Giants lose, that's for sure.
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« Reply #14 on: Nov 04, 2012 at 17:49 »

Oh yeah, that's what Wallace can do.
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« Reply #15 on: Nov 04, 2012 at 18:00 »

Fuck that was a stupid play and a bad call.  Tie the fucking game, you're on the road.  And the best thing you come up with is to let the kicker run the ball?  Really?
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« Reply #16 on: Nov 04, 2012 at 18:01 »

Well that was interesting...

Guess Suisham doesn't have Wallace-like speed. He didn't wish to run outside.
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« Reply #17 on: Nov 04, 2012 at 18:15 »

If nothing else, it appears the offensive line is definitely on its way. And we still have Gilbert and Decastro on the bench.
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« Reply #18 on: Nov 04, 2012 at 18:17 »

Two comments:

1. Tomlin with the horse shit fake field goal attempt on the chip shot where the Giants are obviously in fg "safe" d.

2. Great strategy by Tomlin and Haley to go silent snap throughout the game.
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« Reply #19 on: Nov 04, 2012 at 18:35 »

Most impressive win in years (i.e. since the divisional round game against the Ravens).
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« Reply #20 on: Nov 04, 2012 at 18:37 »

Yeah, the only way the Giants could move the ball was with yellow flags.

The running game was fantastic today. And the return game even better.
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« Reply #21 on: Nov 04, 2012 at 19:37 »

Did someone from the NFL call Simms directly and tell him to flip-flop on the fumble?

The fix was in.
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« Reply #22 on: Nov 04, 2012 at 19:47 »

Most impressive win in years (i.e. since the divisional round game against the Ravens).

No kidding.  I was shocked that we overcame the 1-2-3 punch combo of bad officiating in the first half.

Though I still don't feel this is a great team, I feel better about this team, at week 9, than I did either of the previous 2 super bowl contenders at week 9.  Probably a bad sign.

the short version:  it's nice to finally dominate a decent opponent.
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« Reply #23 on: Nov 04, 2012 at 20:46 »

Most impressive win in years (i.e. since the divisional round game against the Ravens).

No kidding.  I was shocked that we overcame the 1-2-3 punch combo of bad officiating in the first half.

Though I still don't feel this is a great team, I feel better about this team, at week 9, than I did either of the previous 2 super bowl contenders at week 9.  Probably a bad sign.

the short version:  it's nice to finally dominate a decent opponent.

Agreed, great win.  This team is completely different than the one that lost every other game earlier in the season.  They have it going in the right direction.  Can't wait for the Ravens.
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« Reply #24 on: Nov 04, 2012 at 20:49 »

Yeah, the only way the Giants could move the ball was with yellow flags.

The running game was fantastic today. And the return game even better.

The defense was dominant today.  They've been improving over the last few weeks and I think it's helping to have a consistent lineup on the field, Troy or no.
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« Reply #25 on: Nov 04, 2012 at 20:51 »

If nothing else, it appears the offensive line is definitely on its way. And we still have Gilbert and Decastro on the bench.

I don't know what's been more impressive, the OL play (with those two high draft picks on the bench) or the resurgent defense.
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« Reply #26 on: Nov 04, 2012 at 20:52 »

You know, it's not that I mind a trick play. But a fake field goal in that situation? Hell, you don't even have to back up a safety because we're so close. If you're going to go for it, just line up and run a damn play. No need to get "cute" at that point in the game.

I was fine with going for it, but didn't care for the way they chose to do it.

We came out of it in fine fashion, but we surely blew some great opportunities to put that thing away earlier than we did.

Redman and Dwyer...could be a lethal combo.
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« Reply #27 on: Nov 04, 2012 at 21:06 »


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« Reply #28 on: Nov 04, 2012 at 21:23 »

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Wasn't Adams playing today?

Defense looks weak at the start of games, but they seem to pick up steam as the game goes on. Better to finish strong.
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Wasn't Adams playing today?



I think he means Gilbert and Decastro.  Yes, they were both rocking the Duce Staley look.
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« Reply #30 on: Nov 04, 2012 at 23:02 »

Did not have us pegged to win this one with our road record.  Changes the landscape of the 2nd half of the year.

Fake FG was terrible call.  As said, go for it or kick it, I can see both.  But you aren't fooling anyone with what amounts to an extra point.  Not going to be blocked so D will play safe.

Overcame hideous calls in first half.

If we can get some guys back healthy, we're looking like AFC contenders - partially due to quality of AFC at present, but still we are on the upswing with a home game heavy 2nd half.
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« Reply #31 on: Nov 05, 2012 at 06:44 »

What a game!

Defense came up big in the 4th.  Ben adjusted to the pressure and the OL was dominant in run blocking.

It seems we have a carousel of injuries this year.  Especially at RB.
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« Reply #32 on: Nov 05, 2012 at 08:36 »

I figured that the "Committee" up in the little booth that decides who wins and loses would give this one to the Giants. Looked like that in the first half, particularly with His Holiness Goodell watching over the proceedings.

But things leveled off and got the Stillers a huge win.

Very impressed with the defensive improvements, sans Troy, to this point.
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« Reply #33 on: Nov 05, 2012 at 08:54 »

That so-called pf in the endzone?  On the replay that looked like a clear shoulder to shoulder hit, not a blow to the head.  How is that even a penalty, much less a pf?  HOW?  So it goes from a stop to 1st and goal on the goal.  Nice job, refs.  Way to take a prominent position in the game.

I'm not one to usually harp on bad calls, but...

The PI on Lewis that wasn't.

The PF on Clark that wasn't.

The OBVIOUS incomplete pass that was called a fumble.

The clip on Miller that wasn't called.

Can't wait for the regular refs to come back.  Oh, wait...
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« Reply #34 on: Nov 05, 2012 at 09:13 »

That so-called pf in the endzone?  On the replay that looked like a clear shoulder to shoulder hit, not a blow to the head.  How is that even a penalty, much less a pf?  HOW?  So it goes from a stop to 1st and goal on the goal.  Nice job, refs.  Way to take a prominent position in the game.

I'm not one to usually harp on bad calls, but...

The PI on Lewis that wasn't.

The PF on Clark that wasn't.

The OBVIOUS incomplete pass that was called a fumble.

The clip on Miller that wasn't called.

Can't wait for the regular refs to come back.  Oh, wait...

And that's just the tip of the iceburg.

I do not think Brown scored on the goaline (althought I will admit that it was very close).

Rainey got piled on at the end of his last return and went out of the game with the rib injury.  No flag.

The illegal blindside block which isn't actually a penalty?  It's either a clip or a block in the back, but there surely is no penalty for blocking someone that is not looking at you.

And possibly one of the most ridiculous spots I have ever seen, which cost Tomlin a challenge.

Pick up on the spear of Mike Wallace, which in this pussified day-in-age would have gone against the Steelers every time.

Also, Harrison got held more than once.
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The illegal blindside block which isn't actually a penalty?  It's either a clip or a block in the back, but there surely is no penalty for blocking someone that is not looking at you.

That's the Hines Ward rule. Didn't know it applied to kick returns, where just about EVERY block is technically "blind side."

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Not that this is new. But...

Did you see the Giants OT on the Wallace sack? He pulls Harrison down then hold his hands in the old "sticke em up" mode. Might as well hand a "guilty" sign around your neck. For the record, same thing happened after the clip on Miller. No call on either.

I tend to be a conspiracy theorist, so take it with a grain of salt. But don't think for a minute that the refs were unaware of Roger Goodell's presence at this game!
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« Reply #36 on: Nov 05, 2012 at 14:08 »

Overall, I'd say Pittsburgh played extremely well.  I thought the change in travel schedule would severely hamper them, but it didn't seem to slow them down.  I fully expected them to come out sluggish with the Giants playing inspired football for their fans.

I've gotta say, the playcalling has been a been a breath of fresh air.  I expected improvement in this area from Haley, but not to this level and not this quickly.  Halfway through the season and we're hearing references of "MVP like season" for Roethlisberger?  Don't think that's ever happened, even in his best seasons.  Think about that for a second, 8 games into a totally new offensive scheme and he's on pace to best almost all of his offensive numbers.  All while not suffering a major beating, week in, week out.  Not too shabby.

Additional bright spots were the offensive line blocking like their lives depended on it (with a coupla exceptions) and Redman running like a man possessed.  First game where I saw some real big play explosiveness from Rainey too.  He's had a few OK showings, but he really looked dangerous on special teams.  Usually, that part of their game seems to feel like an afterthought, but in this one, whenever NY was kicking off or punting, I felt like a big play was always possible.  Good stuff.

On the defensive side, they've shown steady improvement.  I don't see this group overwhelming anyone, but then again, few defensive squads around the league will be able to do so.  It seems like everyone is flawed in one aspect or another.  Lewis came up big in the secondary and is slowly becoming the team's best cover corner (IMO); at least I think he has the best "ball awareness" of the group.  Not sure yet if that's really a compliment on his play or an indictment on the secondary's abilities.

Big, big win against a quality opponent.  Much needed.  Gotta keep pace with the Ratbirds.  Two games looming with them in the next four games.  I'm betting that by the end of the month, Baltimore will be looking up at Pittsburgh in the standings.  Lock that bitch up, man.  Yeah, I went there.  So what?  You wanna fight about it?
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