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« Reply #220 on: Apr 27, 2013 at 12:01 »

Meh.  Not thrilled.  Jonzr can fill us in, but Landry looks like a bonehead to me.
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« Reply #221 on: Apr 27, 2013 at 12:04 »

What id we give up?
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« Reply #222 on: Apr 27, 2013 at 12:09 »

Shamarko Thomas

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Losing one parent too early is a devastating event; losing both, then taking the lead in the household as the oldest of six children forces one to grow up in a hurry. Thomas lived through this unfortunate circumstance before the 2010 season, losing his mother to a heart condition and his father to a motorcycle accident within nine months. He considered leaving school for the NFL after his junior year to help provide for his family, but his patience -– along with his speed, athleticism, and bone-jarring tackles –- might pay off in a higher draft slot in the 2013 draft.


The all-state pick in football and as a track sprinter from Virginia Beach stepped into a starting role in seven games as a true freshman, moving from linebacker to safety to cornerback depending on the matchup (41 tackles, 6.5 for loss). He again started seven games and played in all 13 in 2010, racking up 67 tackles, 3.5 for loss and three pass break-ups despite playing with padding and a brace on his left elbow much of the season. Thomas started all 10 games in which he played as a junior (missing two with a leg injury), again making 67 stops, three for loss. Thomas started in all 13 games as a senior, and led the Orange in tackles, with 85. He also intercepted two passes, and forced three fumbles. His play in 2012 earned him a Coaches All-Big East first-team selection.
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STRENGTHS Tough safety with a linebacker’s mentality and good thickness throughout his frame. Used around the line throughout his career, but also possesses the closing speed to make plays from a two-deep look. Attacks run plays when his recognition skills tell him to come downhill, makes jarring stops by flowing through traffic and lining up his target. Will finish tackles when at his best, wrapping with authority and even throwing running backs of similar size to the ground. Mixes it up in the box despite his size, won’t back down from lineman blocks and will extend his arm to keep them at bay. Effective blitzer off the edge using his speed and change of direction ability to make plays. Speedy and athletic enough to stay with slot receivers down the seam, can show blitz off-tackle and get back to handle slot coverage responsibility. Covers a lot of ground in the secondary when deep, can change directions effectively to get angles to prevent explosive plays. Strong enough to win 50/50 scenarios with receivers in coverage. Leader and communicator in the secondary. Aggressiveness and speed should make him an outstanding special teams coverage player early in his career.
WEAKNESSES Lacks ideal height for a defensive back, though his arm length appears to be more than adequate. Has been a safety/linebacker hybrid through most his career. Leaves his feet on some tackles trying to make the big hit or swipe down defenders instead of taking them on. Gets jumpy and needs to use his hands more effectively when pressing in the slot, can be head-faked at the line to give up inside leverage – though he has recovery speed, length, and toughness to stay in the play. Must prove he possesses the hands to play the ball in the air and to make more difficult interceptions. Lack of height makes him a potential liability in downfield coverage against NFL receivers and tight ends.
NFL COMPARISON Quintin Mikell
BOTTOM LINE Thomas lost both his parents before his sophomore year in college, and is now the head of a family including six children. The hard-hitting and speedy safety considered leaving for the NFL early, but returned to get closer to achieving his degree and increase his value to NFL scouts. Though his lack of height is not ideal for a pro defensive back, his coverage skills and ability to support against the run make him a potential starting strong safety who is likely to be selected in the middle rounds.
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« Reply #223 on: Apr 27, 2013 at 12:11 »

Landry Jones

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Unlike his predecessor, Sam Bradford, Jones chose to return to Oklahoma for his senior year to help the Sooners win a BCS title, and probably to hang around with wife, Whitney Hand, a star guard for the Sooners’ women’s basketball squad. That job was made a bit harder with the offseason suspensions of three receivers, but even more important for his draft stock is his ability to consistently perform under pressure.

Jones expected to watch Bradford run the Sooners’ offense in 2009, but Bradford’s separated throwing shoulder put the young redshirt freshman in the spotlight more quickly than anticipated. He was voted the Big 12 Offensive Freshman of the Year while starting 10 of 13 games played, including a 418-yard, three-touchdown performance in a 31-27 Sun Bowl win over Stanford. The one-time Gatorade New Mexico High School Player of the Year didn’t have to battle Bradford for the starting job as a sophomore, as the Rams selected him No. 1 overall in the 2010 draft. Jones took advantage of the situation, winning the Sammy Baugh Award as the nation’s top college passer by completing 65.6 percent of his passes for 4,718 yards and 38 touchdowns (against just 12 interceptions). Once again he played well in the postseason, garnering Fiesta Bowl Offensive Player of the Game honors with 429 yards and three passing touchdowns in the 48-20 blowout of Connecticut. Despite those late-season troubles with Ryan Broyles out of the lineup, Jones still threw for 4,483 yards and 29 scores (his touchdown production dropped partially due to the implementation of the red-zone package run by Blake Bell), and was a finalist for the Manning Award while becoming the school’s all-time passing leader. Jones’ 2012 season saw him put up more gaudy statistics, although he might not have progressed into the overall quarterback many expected. He completed 66.1 percent of his passes for 4,267 yards in addition to a 30-11 TD-INT ratio. Jones’ career ended with a 41-17 loss to Texas A&M in the Cotton Bowl, in which he was 35-48 for 278 yards, one touchdown and one interception.
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STRENGTHS Prototypical pocket passer with NFL size. Extremely productive. Can stretch the field with his arm and shows good zip on passes to all parts of the field when his feet are set. Quick release makes him very effective in the short to intermediate passing game. Challenging throws in every start, whether threading the ball versus cover-two or connecting on a back-shoulder pattern.
WEAKNESSES Really struggles when under duress. Feels pressure when it isn't there. Not an elite athlete, takes time to get to hand-off spot from under center. Can move out of the pocket to escape pressure, but is usually caught up in traffic and is brought down too easily in the backfield. Confidence waxes and wanes throughout the game and season. Ball comes out of his hand poorly at times, floating across or down the field. Downfield accuracy is erratic, missing open receivers on the run; also misfires on out routes too often. Inconsistent on his touch on fades or throws over the top of defenders. Looks to the sidelines for pre-snap adjustments, looks to be confused by complex defensive looks.
NFL COMPARISON Matt Cassel
BOTTOM LINE The NFL-sized pocket passer can be decisive and flashes the accuracy to pick apart defenses at the next level. However, his tendency to get rattled under pressure is a major issue. Also, when things start to go downhill, he lacks a short memory; his confidence is shaken. He is also inconsistent in his reads and decision making.
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« Reply #224 on: Apr 27, 2013 at 12:12 »

Gave up next year's third rounder.

Maybe a bit rich, but with our backup situation, if he can come in and win a couple games when Ben's out it's worth it.
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« Reply #225 on: Apr 27, 2013 at 12:16 »

I thought Laundry Jones was something Najeh Davenport got from time to time?

Waste of a pick.  Maybe we can flip him for something a couple of years down the road. 

Grading this draft a C, generously. 
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« Reply #226 on: Apr 27, 2013 at 12:20 »

an t find what we traded
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« Reply #227 on: Apr 27, 2013 at 12:20 »

SHAMARKO!

You know aj and I are loving this pick.  Between Wheaton and Thomas, this draft has begun to look up IMO.  And nothing against Bell or Cookie Jarvis, I am hoping they come in and kick ass too.

Fin, I will read back over your thoughts on this guy.  I don't like trading a fourth this year for our third next yr but I guess the Steelers will get a third comp for Wallace and felt it wouldn't be as big a hit
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« Reply #228 on: Apr 27, 2013 at 12:22 »

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Third rounder in 2014
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« Reply #229 on: Apr 27, 2013 at 12:30 »

I just see Shamarko as a Bob Sanders type.  Very fast, very physical, fits what we do to a T.  Thicker than Bob, so hopefully more durable.
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