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« Reply #20 on: Apr 12, 2013 at 15:21 »

Let him walk and sign Nate Washington (who is reportedly getting released.  Getting the band back together!!!!@@@!@!!!!

Fuck yeah.  Get ARE back, and Rich Tylski, and Shar Pourdanesh, and Fu, and Lee Flowers, and... ewww, I was just gonna say Chad and DeWayne, but I threw up a little in my mouth.

Najeh will probably need a few extra bucks.

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« Reply #21 on: Apr 14, 2013 at 17:58 »

Sanders signes with the STEELERS:  http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/eye-on-football/22072376/steelers-match-patriots-25-million-offer-for-emmanuel-sanders

Not a bad decision and hopefully they can get him to sign a longer term contract before the season starts.
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« Reply #22 on: Apr 14, 2013 at 18:02 »

We just paid an additional $1.2M and gained nothing, probably lost the ability to sign a free agent like Bradshaw.

I hate the Patriots.
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« Reply #23 on: Apr 14, 2013 at 18:54 »

Did we overpay?  Yeah, a little bit.

But I for one am glad that we don't need to replace every single guy via the draft.
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« Reply #24 on: Apr 15, 2013 at 07:04 »

The ONLY way this makes sense is if they sign Sanders to an extension, otherwise his cap hit is too high and he's a UFA next year.  I don't mind locking him in that way, but his injury history made him worth moving on to the Pats IMO.  If he stays healthy his best ball remains ahead of him.

Still need a top WR in R1-3.  We have two WR2s, and no WR1.
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« Reply #25 on: Apr 15, 2013 at 07:25 »

I dunno, I was fine either way they went with this.  3rd round picks are a crapshoot and I'd rather not completely punt a season of Ben's career.

I have to think they will work on an extension.  Crossing my fingers that the guy can stay healthy.
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« Reply #26 on: Apr 15, 2013 at 08:36 »

I dunno, I was fine either way they went with this.  3rd round picks are a crapshoot and I'd rather not completely punt a season of Ben's career.

I have to think they will work on an extension.  Crossing my fingers that the guy can stay healthy.

Depends on the crop of WRs in any given year.   There's some very good talent in R1-2, but I think there's some excellent WR value in R3-4 this year, less of a crapshoot than perhaps other years.  Two scenarios:

Lose Sanders, Get R3 Draft Pick

2013 - Steelers get the 3.29 (91).  Have A. Brown and vets Burress and Cotchery, plus PS/fringe roster players like Gilreath, Moye, etc.  Clearly depth is an issue and at a minimum 2 future starters would need to be drafted to replace Wallace and Sanders.  If the Steelers find a WR1 in R1-2, they could then find a complementary player in R3-5 without sacrificing other draft needs.  Players available ~ the Steelers R3 selection(s) include:  A&M's Ryan Swope (+speed, productive under 2 top QBs), Texas's Marquise Goodwin (+speed), WVU's Stedman Bailey (+speed, + productivity, +++TD), K State's Chris Harper (size, hands), OK's Kenny Stills (+speed); after that are more developmental/crapshoot types.  There's a LOT of speed in the bunch listed, so you could boost the speed of the WR corps, and use the earlier pick on a guy deemed to be a WR1 type (IMO, Austin and possibly Hopkins at 1.17; in trade back or R2 Patton, Hunter, Williams, Rogers).

The 2013 season would be one where the rookies would need to be worked into the lineup, much as when we drafted Wallace and Sanders.  Having Plax and Cotchery helps in this, but the 2013 productivity might suffer.  2014 and onward looks promising in this scenario, however.

Another bonus is the fact that by wiping the Sanders cap hit, the FO could pick up one more FA to plug holes.

Keep Sanders, No Extension

2013 - More continuity in the passing game, but one fewer FA to be signed due to cap effect.  The building phase of the WR corps is pushed back a year from previous scenario, but 2013 is likely more productive.

2014 - Sanders leaves via FA.  A mid-level draft pick has to be used that would have otherwise been available in the previous scenario. 

2015 - Steelers receive comp pick unless FAs basically balance out, and they get nothing.  Let's wildly speculate and say Sanders nets us a R5 comp.  (This would be the equivalent of a 2013 R7 pick by standard computation.) 

Pluses:  Better 2013 WR productivity.  Minuses:  Loss of 2013 FA, loss of 2014 mid-round pick, net 4 round loss in comp/tender picks, timetable for WR upgrade pushed back.

Now, all this changes if they extend Sanders (but do you?) and grab a solid WR1 this year.

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« Reply #27 on: Apr 15, 2013 at 09:00 »

Well I have mixed emotions about the whole thing but the more I think about it (and after reading your argument, I'm not as informed as some on the draft) something like the pick + signing a Brandon Lloyd type was probably the way to go.  I guess my heart is in putting the best possible team out there while Ben is in his prime, but does Manny Sanders put us over the top?  I doubt it.

And to answer your question, after really thinking about, given the injury history and the cap-hell, I probably don't extend him.  Not so sure he want an extension either at this point, probably wants to play it out and see whats out there next year.

So yeah I just flip-flopped.  Second cup of coffee will do that I guess.



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« Reply #28 on: Apr 15, 2013 at 10:31 »

Let him walk and sign Nate Washington (who is reportedly getting released.  Getting the band back together!!!!@@@!@!!!!

Fuck yeah.  Get ARE back, and Rich Tylski, and Shar Pourdanesh, and Fu, and Lee Flowers, and... ewww, I was just gonna say Chad and DeWayne, but I threw up a little in my mouth.

Najeh will probably need a few extra bucks.

Laundry baskets ain't cheap.

Neither are attorney's fees.
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« Reply #29 on: Apr 15, 2013 at 21:33 »

Fine with it either way, but just like the fact that in some small way we gave the Pats the middle finger.

Besides, if we let Sanders sign with them, Goddell would have re-invoked the Tuck Rule and given the Pats their pick back.
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