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Author Topic: Colts trade R1 pick for Trent Richardson  (Read 1403 times)
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« on: Sep 19, 2013 at 09:07 »

So, the Browns wasted a passel of draft picks so that they could move to the 1.3 spot in 2011, and then their ROI is a 2014 R1 (mid-R1, likely) from the Clots.  Oh, and despite the injury last year, Richardson is was prolly their best player on the roster. 

Just when I'm feeling down and blue, the Browns come along and cheer me up.

Colts made a hella deal IMO.  Glad he's outta the AFCN.
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« Reply #1 on: Sep 19, 2013 at 10:15 »

Yeah, but...

   The Browns' should be interesting to watch at the '14 draft.  If my figurin' is correct, Cleveland has all of their picks next year plus Indy's #1 (Richardson), Pittsburgh's #3 (a #4 last year that they used to draft Shamarko Thomas), and Indy's #4 (a 5th last year that the Colts used to draft Montori Hughes).  I haven't dug too deeply into the '14 draft crop yet, but 10 draft picks (7 in the top 4 rounds) could do some damage (if we weren't talking about the Browns).
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« Reply #2 on: Sep 19, 2013 at 11:12 »

It's clear what the Browns intend to do. They will use all 10 draft picks to move from number 2 overall to number 1 overall, and draft Teddy Bridgewater. With no talent around Bridgewater, he is doomed to fail. So in 2016, they will trade Bridgewater to another team for a second round pick. But man, the guy they draft with that 2016 second round pick is gonna be awesome!
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« Reply #3 on: Sep 19, 2013 at 11:22 »

With the Browns' draft history, I don't care how many picks they have they will screw up.  Trading up to get Brady Quinn ring a bell?
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« Reply #4 on: Sep 19, 2013 at 11:34 »

With the Browns' draft history, I don't care how many picks they have they will screw up.  Trading up to get Brady Quinn ring a bell?

This.

Colts OTOH, have Luck and Richardson, changes the complexion of the NFCS at least long-term.
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« Reply #5 on: Sep 19, 2013 at 11:43 »

Knowing the Browns they draft Johnny Football.  I hope they do.
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« Reply #6 on: Sep 19, 2013 at 12:20 »

Here's the deal.  Since 2004, here are the Browns' efforts to find a QB:

2004 - Juke McCown, round 4 (106)
2005 - Charlie Frye, Round 3 (67)
2007 - Brady Quinn, round 1 (22)
2010 - Colt McCoy, round 3 (85)
2012 - Brandon Weeden, Round 1 (22)

And in 04 they had the #6 overall pick, passing on some small school flash in the pan QB named Roffle-somethingorother to take Kellen Winslow Jr.

Understandable, they probably didn't hear much about him since he played in Ohio - oh, wait...

Whatever happened to that dude?
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« Reply #7 on: Sep 19, 2013 at 13:23 »

Northrup Frye!

I'm disappointed you didn't go a little further back and mention the Tim Couch.
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« Reply #8 on: Sep 19, 2013 at 15:12 »

With the Browns' draft history, I don't care how many picks they have they will screw up.  Trading up to get Brady Quinn ring a bell?

In all fairness, it is a new regime there.  Richardson was a Holmgren pick so maybe they don't feel he's the right guy to build around?

*shrugs shoulders* 

Richardson's stock will probably never be higher.  Getting R1 picks in exchange for a player (especially a non-franchise QB type player) is pretty goddamned rare.

That said, I think Indy made out because they need/get help right now (what's the deal with Bradshaw?) and if I'm a Cleveland fan, I'd be pretty pissed because it feels like they're throwing in the towel on the season in Week 2.

I mean, at least keep up the appearance for wanting to compete until Week 11 or 12...
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« Reply #9 on: Sep 19, 2013 at 16:05 »

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Getting R1 picks in exchange for a player (especially a non-franchise QB type player) is pretty goddamned rare.

True enough, but that's cuz R1 guys usually get to play out their rookie contract.  If they're traded before that, it's because there's a serious problem.  If traded after, the contract ding of a C$2 or C$3 is too high.  Is Trent really permanently damaged goods?  He seemed to show some tremendous power and good skills overall.  Cap hit is $1.6, $2.2, and $3.2 for the Colts, or whatever the prorated portion of $1.6 is this year.  Sounds like they got a good deal unless he's truly China.
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« Reply #10 on: Sep 19, 2013 at 17:55 »

Good fantasy news for my team
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« Reply #11 on: Sep 19, 2013 at 22:54 »

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I'm disappointed you didn't go a little further back and mention the Tim Couch.

Good point, but I only went back as far as the opportunity to get Ben.  '98 overall was a much weaker than anticipated QB class.

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Screw fairness, it's the friggin Browns.
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« Reply #12 on: Sep 22, 2013 at 11:54 »

Supposedly, they're fielding offers for Gordon and Little.  I'd snap offer next year's R4 for Gordon.  He's a risk, but I think it's worth it.
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« Reply #13 on: Sep 22, 2013 at 17:50 »

Little is worthless.  They won't trade Gordon to an AFCN rival, but if R4 were offered and they accepted?  Derek Moye, welcome to the practice squad.  In a heartbeat.  I mean, it'd be idiotic for them to do that, but they are the Browns.
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« Reply #14 on: Sep 22, 2013 at 19:17 »

Cleveland can't expect much for Gordon...is he suspended for 4 games or the entire season with his next infraction?
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